Letter: Ron Paul is not my homeboy

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Letter: Ron Paul is not my homeboy
Issue date: 1/30/08 Section: Opinion
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I read the following last paragraph in Dustin Gardiner's column ("Knowing the real Ron Paul," Jan. 28), which made me think for a couple of minutes: "But would Paul's same fervent supporters still support him if they realized that removing government funding for public universities would dramatically increase their tuition costs?"

I think removing federal funding for state programs, such as publicly funded universities, overnight would result in massive chaos. I highly doubt any government would be so stupid. So let's speak slightly more long-term than overnight. Say, for example, that such funding was removed. Then all universities would be privately held, and a market economy for providing education would be in place. At that point, what would likely happen is the following:

First, yes, it would cost money to get an education. How much would it cost? Who knows. Currently, there are a handful of private universities. Students who can afford them go there. If all universities were private, they would all be in competition with each other to provide the best education at the best price. Universities would start to specialize more in providing certain types of education rather than being large, monolithic do-it-alls (unless they had the resources to provide such services). Supply would meet true demand.

This would start to hurt art history majors, as they'd realize that they have to pay a lot for their education but can't find jobs later. That, in turn, would reduce the number of people wanting to study art history and would then reduce the number of institutions providing it -- everything would boil down to those students who truly care about art and history and not the ones who are looking to get an easy degree. And of course, to meet their demand, you'd have a handful of universities that cater to such students -- and their economic situation.

Art history is only an example. The same can easily apply to different types of engineering. Basically, education would adapt faster to the requirements of industry. As it is, this gap is being met by many community colleges.

The only people I see suffering -- and one should not take this pool lightly -- are the professors who spent many years of their life specializing. But then why should they be any different from other humans?

Finally, there would be even more scholarships in place for deserving students. It is in our nature to help the needy. If we feel that we are paying taxes and that they should be doing the job, then why should we have to pay twice by donating to a cause? If schools were privately funded, it would be in the interest of those who graduated from those schools and the schools themselves to attract the highest-caliber students -- and not just the richest ones.


Vishal Patel
Berkeley, California
 
This from the "Daily Utah Chronicle?".

DUH... I bet the author of this has Mitt's website as his homepage.
 
This guy, like most Americans is an idiot...


How do people think school worked before the government got invovled??? I mean for the first 200 years or so the government was never involved in paying for people's educations.

What do people honestly think will happen if Ron Paul becomes president, that he will immediately take back all the money from students?? do people think he wants to inact executive order number Hb-13893 and seize all student loans???

I wish most people weren't idiots. His plan is to save money overseas and help the citizens of America!! and to have the government less involved in the school issues. Plus, the reason schools charge so much is because the Government is paying the bills!!!!!! If the government stopped paying, and enrollment dropped because of it, guess what would happen...Tuition would drop to increase enrollment!

So go screw off you idiot brain washed jackasses that depend on the Government to take care of everyone.
 
Also, if there were no income tax, students and the parents of students would have more money to pay the cost of going to those universities.
 
The whole idea that "removing federal funding would be disastrous" is absolutely ridiculous. It would only be disastrous if we removed federal funding but the federal government continued to tax at the same level. If we did not pay taxes to the federal government to fund universities, states would be able to hike up their own taxes to pick up the slack*. As an added benefit, the federal government would no longer be able to hold education funding hostage; the way things work today is: Instead of leaving education funding to the states, the federal government taxes (steals from) people excessively, and then it blackmails the states and makes them agree to ridiculous unrelated terms if they want to get any funding for education.


*Here, I'm completely ignoring the free market alternative to emphasize the point that the federal government does not need to be involved for schools and universities to be publicly funded, and in fact, its meddling only hurts them.
 
Am I the only one reading that this is in support of removing federal money?
 
Many of the schools who are afraid of government taking away their money are the ones who are full of neo-Marxists (neo, because these morons wouldn't last 10 mins. in a truly Leninist country.) They fill their time and books with questionable research such as the history of the pot-holder and the history of the Afro and other weird stuff. I'm not saying that these things shouldn't be researched, just not with tax-payer money. And while doing all this silly research, they leave the teaching to teaching assistants.

Worse most of these asylums fill their course guides with silly offerings like Brown University's Introduction to Cinematic Coding and Narrativity (aka Clap for Credit), Creative Video, Pocket Billiards, Deadhead 101 (a study of the habits and travels of Grateful Dead fans), Amherst's Sport & Society (self described as Marxist and neo-Marxist interpretations of sportÂą...whatever that means), Southern Mexican Lifestyles In Modern Sculptures, World War II As Analyzed In Rural Scandinavian Folklore, Perspectives In Synchronized Swimming: Different Points Of View...I could go on for another 50 pages, but you get the idea.

As John Stossel pointed out in his book "Myths, Lies, and Stupidity" government schools aren't short of money, they're swimming in it! Unfortunately mediocrity is rewarded, high priced "stars" with tenure are protected, and the kids are left dumber for it (these places teach the bored kids what to think....not how to think! Can't have that, doesn't fit in with the plan! They might actually form their own opinions *horrors* :p)


Âą A cross-cultural study of sport in its social context. Topics will include the philosophy of play, games, contest, and sport; the evolution of modern sport in industrial society; Marxist and Neo-Marxist interpretations of sport; economic, legal, racial and sexual aspects of sport; national character and sport; social mobility and sport; sport in literature and film. http://www.amherst.edu/acad_life/AmherstCatalog0405.pdf Page 96
 
all these two bit wannabe journalists try to dumb down ron paul's message to their level. This is the cause of the misunderstanding.
 
Federal funding to universities has long gone unchecked and has stripped our basic constitutional rights. Federal grants also go to PORK spending projects within the Universities.

A $95 million mental health grant that includes special interest groups from the psychiatric and drug companies at College Universities (example Yale) that are removing INFORMED CONSENT from mental health services they are hawking to the public under the cover of "new studies" release from Universities and clinics that are opened to the public and foster care children.

In addition, republicans do not run Universities and Colleges, so seems like you will get more of the same when the Democrats move into the White House.

Ethical standards are being bypassed to promote social experiments and pushed behind the mask of Universities.
 
He is supporting Dr. Paul's positions in this article. Please reread. It may be provocatively worded in the beginning, but the arguments make Dr. Paul's case.
 
Excellent Example of Problems with Federal Funding at Universities

humm.. good example right off the press, the constitution used to push Sex Workers in Well known University. Censorship of a debate on the overall benefits of such a program is blocked by hammer use of the Constitution and no investigation into if this program is funded by a Federal Grant. It has to cost some money, who is funding this program? Is it the Federal Government with taxpayer money or a Special interest Group given uneven due process to get agenda into University?


http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-now-sexworkers.0128,0,3936712.story
 
I have no judgement for or against the show, but I would consider pulling the strings to ultimately know who is funding the "program" that the show refers to. It all comes down to money and interests.
 
The quality goes up by 1000%.

Universities might actually have professors that teach as opposed to spend the governments money doing research the whole time. What a novel concept. Schools waste money hand over fist, this would require them to be more efficient.
 
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