Let this be a lesson to those that insist on broadcasting their entire lives to the world.

[BlackTerrel]

That includes facebookers and you "well I don't care if government watches me, I've got nothing to hide" folks as well.

What you may think is perfectly OK, may in fact land you in prison.

I think the lesson is don't post stuff which some people may perceive as child abuse.

I offer no comment on the effectiveness of hot sauce or the parent's actions, only to point out that obviously they saw nothing wrong with it, broadcast it the world and are now probably going to go to jail because of that.

Why did they broadcast it to the world to begin with? "And here is our adopted son drinking hot sauce"...

 

[BlackTerrel]

I don't think parents should be allowed to verbally or physically punish kids. But I do understand that most would not support this type of parenting. I do think though if the kid can not defend himself someone else should come to his defense.

However I think AF point was that broadcasting private life is not a good idea since we break a myriad of retarded laws everyday.

I don't think it's a huge secret in 2011 to keep an eye on what you make public. When I was in college one of our friends passed out drunk and we drew a huge cock on his forehead and posed next to him. Some people put it on myspace. When I graduated I made sure it wasn't public - I also wouldn't send that pic to dr. phil.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I think the lesson is don't post stuff which some people may perceive as child abuse.

Which has in the past, included bare bottom pictures of your own children, where people have been arrested and investigated for kiddie porn by snooping photo developers.

That's my point. What you perceive to wrong, may be totally different than what I perceive to be wrong.

Why did they broadcast it to the world to begin with? "And here is our adopted son drinking hot sauce"...

For 15 minutes of cheap fame on the Dr. Phil show.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I don't think it's a huge secret in 2011 to keep an eye on what you make public. When I was in college one of our friends passed out drunk and we drew a huge cock on his forehead and posed next to him. Some people put it on myspace. When I graduated I made sure it wasn't public - I also wouldn't send that pic to dr. phil.

Well, it must be some huge secret to some of these clowns out there that put their whole life on public display.

 

[BlackTerrel]

Well, it must be some huge secret to some of these clowns out there that put their whole life on public display.

True. I actually see it a lot.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

yeah, we should definitely be able to force hot sauce down our children's throat without state interference.

/sarcasm

seriously though, if you can't force hot sauce down an adults throat or beat them to correct their behavior, for fear of being jailed for assault, why would it be ok to do it to some who is much weaker and defenseless?

If this non-issue can convince you that state interference is necessary, then I don't know what you're doing here.

 

[angelatc]

AF's point is that just because you think it's fine, it doesn't mean that the state will allow you to keep your kid.

Exactly - just because a majority of us support the right to raise your child as you see fit doesn't mean the government won't take them away.

 

[angelatc]

Why did they broadcast it to the world to begin with? "And here is our adopted son drinking hot sauce"...

Now that you mention it, why did they film it?

 

[angelatc]

You can't always reason with a toddler.

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People that don't have kids are always total experts in child rearing. It's the damndest thing.

 

[DamianTV]

You dont have to be an expert to understand that most forms of punishment (not just with kids) are a way for someone to take out their frustrations on the person being punished, or to profit from it financially, as the government does when "punishing" pot users with fines.

 

[BlackTerrel]

Now that you mention it, why did they film it?

No clue.

 

[Anti Federalist]

No clue.

I answered you, BT, in post #63.

It was for 15 minutes of cheap fame on the Dr. Phil show.

The video was originally aired on a "Dr. Phil" episode and caused a public uproar in Russia where the boy is from.

From the OP.

 

[fisharmor]

If you have to spank your child because they touch one of your guns, it might be necessary to prevent them from shooting themselves, but you still failed as a parent, because you could have kept them from getting access to the gun, and your failure to do so put you in a position where physical punishment was the only alternative.

My children can get to my guns.
There has never been a lock under the kitchen sink or the bathroom sink.
Nor has there ever been a lock on the toolbox.
They can both get to sharp scissors, and the older one can get to Ginsu knives.
There's also wine and spirits within their reach.

Amazingly, they're not spending their days drunk, fingerless, and shooting hollow points through each others' eyes.
You don't need to bubble-wrap your house, and you don't need to hit them to keep them out of these things.
All you need is a little vigilance, and to take an interest in what they're doing the other 95% of the time, too.

 

[BlackTerrel]

I answered you, BT, in post #63.

It was for 15 minutes of cheap fame on the Dr. Phil show.

Ok I guess that makes sense.

The video was originally aired on a "Dr. Phil" episode and caused a public uproar in Russia where the boy is from.

Punishing them may have been our way of appeasing the Russians then?

 

[DamianTV]

I came across a good quotable line a few minutes ago, thought this would be worth while sharing.

When Everything You've Ever Said Can & Will Be Used Against You By Anyone... Forever
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...will-be-used-against-you-anyone-forever.shtml

Tech Article, but if youre interested, hit the link. I didnt bother with copying and pasting because I know some of the Tech Stuff bores some of the people around here.

 

[jonhowe]

I was copying what I heard on tv as a 5 year old sometimes saying cuss words when I didn't know what they meant.

Sorry, but your grandfather was a sick person if this is true. Using a word without knowing its meaning is NOT a reason for punishment, but for correction and education. If your grandfather (or anyone else) is/was too thick to understand this, that's just sad.

 

[Rothbardian Girl]

Sorry, but your grandfather was a sick person if this is true. Using a word without knowing its meaning is NOT a reason for punishment, but for correction and education. If your grandfather (or anyone else) is/was too thick to understand this, that's just sad.

++ When I was 6 years old I said to my mom "What the hell is going on" without realizing what it meant, and my grandfather was around, and he just laughed and left it up to my mom (who also thought it was funny) to explain what was wrong with that phrase. I never cursed in front of my parents again. I was probably a statistical anomaly growing up (I very rarely, if ever, gave my parents serious trouble), but I'm not sure if I would consider physical discipline short of stopping a dangerous situation (stove, running into street, etc.).

 

[WilliamC]

My children can get to my guns.
There has never been a lock under the kitchen sink or the bathroom sink.
Nor has there ever been a lock on the toolbox.
They can both get to sharp scissors, and the older one can get to Ginsu knives.
There's also wine and spirits within their reach.

Amazingly, they're not spending their days drunk, fingerless, and shooting hollow points through each others' eyes.
You don't need to bubble-wrap your house, and you don't need to hit them to keep them out of these things.
All you need is a little vigilance, and to take an interest in what they're doing the other 95% of the time, too.

+rep

 

[jonhowe]

My children can get to my guns.
There has never been a lock under the kitchen sink or the bathroom sink.
Nor has there ever been a lock on the toolbox.
They can both get to sharp scissors, and the older one can get to Ginsu knives.
There's also wine and spirits within their reach.

Amazingly, they're not spending their days drunk, fingerless, and shooting hollow points through each others' eyes.
You don't need to bubble-wrap your house, and you don't need to hit them to keep them out of these things.
All you need is a little vigilance, and to take an interest in what they're doing the other 95% of the time, too.

I would not advocate open access to firearms to those not educated in their use, but I do support your approach to parenting otherwise.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I would not advocate open access to firearms to those not educated in their use, but I do support your approach to parenting otherwise.

Locked up and unloaded guns are useless guns.

Thousand dollar New Year's Eve noisemakers.