Lessons learned from the Ron Paul Presidential Campaign...

I think that in future campaigns that the national campaign needs to pay more attention to the grassroots and listen to them. Someone famous once said "All politics are local" and that is so true. No one knows better what it takes to win a given precinct, town, city, state than the people that live there. I think that the national campaign was a bit arrogant and would've done better to work hand in hand with the grassroots.

Moneybombs, although newsworthy, cannot be the main source of fundraising. The message should be if you're serious about this campaign give as much as possible as often as possible. Don't wait until a certain day to donate what you could give today. If you have it now donate it now or you're depriving the campaign of resources they could put to use immediately. If some of the moneybomb money had arrived earlier it could've been spent in New Hampshire and a stronger showing there may have been all we needed to turn heads and give the impression Ron could win.

I think that the grassroots have done a great job and that even though Ron is a great man we made him the icon he was by putting our full faith and money behind him. Without the grassroots explosion hardly anyone would've mentioned Ron in this race. We do however need to not treat this as a defeat but as a win. Our movement is much stronger now than it was a year ago. People are not afraid to speak out against tyranny anymore and the message of a people who want their freedom is ringing out again. We need to take all the meetups and local organizations and coordinate them into a national movement. We need to start the 2012 campaign now even though we don't have a candidate. We need to be in the position that other groups like the churches and unions are in next time around to have candidates seek out our endorsement and be scared of pissing us off and having 20 million voters turn out to vote against them.

When you look at everything we've accomplished in just one year there is no reason for anyone to feel shame or anger. We outlasted the supposed front runners and are still in the race. Our candidate has not called it quits and thrown in the towel to endorse someone with the wrong ideas.

Everyone involved in this movement needs to keep their head up and refocus their energy on unseating congressmen and senators that work against what we stand for and set their sights on making a big difference in 2010 House and Senate races and taking a lot of momentum into the 2012 Presidential race.
 
I think you need to stop talking about such things in the midst of three contests.
 
Where exactly did I 'tell everyone to give up'? You are the definition of a pessimist because you are reading what I wrote and simply picking out my opinions which just so happened to be the opposite of yours, rather than looking at the positive intent of the thread.

By the way, it'll take a lot more than a knucklehead like you to get me to leave.
 
Where exactly did I 'tell everyone to give up'? You are the definition of a pessimist because you are reading what I wrote and simply picking out my opinions which just so happened to be the opposite of yours, rather than looking at the positive intent of the thread.

By the way, it'll take a lot more than a knucklehead like you to get me to leave.

Ya, because you're probably paid...

Bring up this stupidity after the contest is over.
 
Thank you JSutter for being an open-minded, intelligent person and posting a valid response.
 
Ya, because you're probably paid...

Bring up this stupidity after the contest is over.
You caught me! I'm being paid by the campaign of Alan Keyes to come on here and ask how things could've been handled better. Alan is giving a super dramatic sermon later. You should join!

God, what an idiot...
 
You caught me! I'm being paid by the campaign of Alan Keyes to come on here and ask how things could've been handled better. Alan is giving a super dramatic sermon later. You should join!

God, what an idiot...

Nope, McCain/Huckabee, idiot.

Explain why you had to bring up your retarded opinion right before/during some caucuses/primaries, genius.
 
Thank you.

It really pisses me off that so many people want to give up and slink off to come back in 2012 wanting to be accepted back to fight again. We need to have a battlefield mentality and not give up an inch of the ground we've gained and to fight harder for every single inch of ground we can get and hold it. That's the only way not to be viewed with skepticism next time is to be able to say we never gave up and that we only got stronger.

If you think the establishment was afraid of our message this time wait until you see their faces when they get to 201o and 2012 and realize we have gotten stronger.
 
This will be my last response to you, since you're proving your paranoid insanity with each post. However, I will continue to post in these forums and this thread well after today (just not to you), simply to show how wrong you are and who the troll really is.
 
What worked in this campaign:

Those people who focused LOCALLY. Who canvassed their precinct or became precinct committeepeople or became local delegates or got involved in their local GOP and will remain in the GOP after the election. I applaud those individuals. I put together my GOPrising.com site to provide a way for those folks to network and share ideas after this 2008 campaign winds down. For whatever reason it didn't take off but hopefully I will figure out a way to work with either the Republican Liberty Caucus (probably the most favorable subgroup within the GOP) or other groups that now want to keep our power united long into the future.

What DIDN'T work in this campaign:

All nonsensical top-down dreaming. That the media would wake up and do our work for us. That the polls were wrong. That fundraising and advertising were the keys to winning. That online polls would influence anything. That the majority of people would be willing to take the time to be educated on arcane stuff.

All of the sheer idiocy of "third party" stuff. While RP still says he respects third parties, I can now say I don't. They are a colossal diversion, a waste of time, and downright dangerous. A siren song to lure people into a desert of irrelevance and thus allow the establishment/insiders of both parties to cement their hold on the only two parties that matter or that even CARE about governing. I look forward to continuing to work with people who join the Republican Liberty Caucus (and on the Dem side, the far more irrelevant Democratic Freedom Caucus). I hope that RP supporters who understand and can face reality will join one of those two. As for those who can't face reality, I look forward to not having to talk to those clowns again.

Sorry if this sounds harsh.
 
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This will be my last response to you, since you're proving your paranoid insanity with each post. However, I will continue to post in these forums and this thread well after today (just not to you), simply to show how wrong you are and who the troll really is.

It is unreasonable, and hints of insanity or intentional sabotage, to imply, in any way, that it is crazy to think that people from other campaigns would come here to sap our resolve.

You can't possibly prove my "paranoid insanity", because whether you are an idiot, or an agent of another campaign, the effect is the same. Right before/during some contests, you're telling people it is hopeless. DIAF. Look it up.
 
It's not over yet, but given our limitations I think we did well. If we had more time to plan for it next time, I think we'd have done much better.

Last, we MUST find a way to fight the MSM. Perhaps this is a battle that starts now.
 
J Free - I don't think it sounded harsh at all. It was well thought out and honest. Thanks for the input.

bcreps - I don't know that there IS a way to fight the MSM, at least in its current condition of ownership. That's why I made my point about taking advantage of OTHER forms of name recognition. If the newscasters won't talk about him, then he needs to have a commercial DURING the newscast. If the magazines won't write articles about him, then he needs to have an advertisement IN the magazine. If the websites won't mention his name, then ads with his picture should be flashing on their main page. Until we can get a widely-viewed, independent news source (if that ever happens), I think that type of direct infiltration is critical.

I think most of us, including myself, were a little naive thinking that the media would see the smoke caused by RP's campaign and send all their trucks to report the wildfire - but, alas, we saw their true agendas. That, in itself, was a lesson learned for me. NO ONE in the MSM can be trusted to fairly and accurately report the news.
 
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J Free - I don't think it sounded harsh at all. It was well thought out and honest. Thanks for the input.

bcreps - I don't know that there IS a way to fight the MSM, at least in its current condition of ownership. That's why I made my point about taking advantage of OTHER forms of name recognition. If the newscasters won't talk about him, then he needs to have a commercial DURING the newscast. If the magazines won't write articles about him, then he needs to have an advertisement IN the magazine. If the websites won't mention his name, then ads with his picture should be flashing on their main page. Until we can get a widely-viewed, independent news source (if that ever happens), I think that type of infiltration is critical.

And you put this in the news section. Telling everyone it was News that Ron Paul "obviously" won't be elected.
 
As for me and mine, we will keep working as long as there is work to be done. The message continues to go out until they shut me up, and if we don't win this thing, I'm going third party to raise awareness and promote viability.

We lost to the two party system, it's as crooked as Ted Bundy.
 
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A most recent conversation with a fellow RP supporter...
me: i'm so pissed about the whole ron paul thing
Robert: the latest email?
me: talk about a wasted opportunity
yeah
Robert: i know
i agree
me: i mean... 20million in one quarter
equaling obama
and how does he advertise his campain??
nada
Robert: nothing
zip
me: plays the wait and see game
Robert: zero
zilch
me: he should have challenged people with his ads
he should have gone all in
spent the entire 20million
on like 2 early states
Robert: no question
me: run 10 different 30sec spots
each one a call to action
rather than.. Ron Paul is against the IRS.. ron paul has a 30year voting record.. ron paul is for liberty... blah blah blah
it shouldve been... 200k people just gave Ron Paul 20million dollars
and the press completely ignors him
why do you think that is america??
maybe its because hes the only REP against the war
against warrentless wiretapping
against spending money overseas as opposed to here at home
find out why people gave this many 20million dollars
and why the mainstream media doesnt want you to know or vote for him at ronpaul2008.com
i mean, shit like that
it couldve been a slam fucking dunk
they played to loose
4.3mill on mailings??
lol
are you kidding me
you think anyone reads that shit in this day and age
at least go down swinging
instead of the slow fade
with no peaks whatsoever
In other words.. next time people give you 30million dollars.. do something with it.. challenge the american people.. call out the MSM... call out the pro-war-cons, and empower the people.. tell them that you only have a chance if they all take a chance... "elect-ability" is such a bullshit concept. Its a horse-race inwhich a majority of voters simply try to pick the winner, just so they can say they did.. Call them out on that.. Dare the media to suppress the message of Peace and Freedom..

This was such a slam dunk.. we had the money, we had the roots.. and yet, the execution could not have been any worse if HQ had tried to purposely scuttle this whole campaign...
 
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It is unreasonable, and hints of insanity or intentional sabotage, to imply, in any way, that it is crazy to think that people from other campaigns would come here to sap our resolve.

You can't possibly prove my "paranoid insanity", because whether you are an idiot, or an agent of another campaign, the effect is the same. Right before/during some contests, you're telling people it is hopeless. DIAF. Look it up.

Wow! Die in a fire! Very nice! Karma is a bitch.
 
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