Lawson wins!!!!
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Why not? There were polls between Rand and his would be D opponents.
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How come you haven't commissioned one??
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blimpin for liberty, now the fight begins! the ron paul platform can win!! liberty has no party!!
This is a little outside the 3-point line. Some of our other candidates are from half court and some even beyond that. Again, Lawson can do it, but he'll need to work incredibly hard and raise tons of money.
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It'd be nice if he could reach out to some prominent black leaders in Durham. Some big business owners, some preachers... can't think of any other highly visible black people, but there has got to be a way into that demographic.
He's going to have trouble talking sense into the elitist democrats of Wake or Durham, so I can't really see him converting any upper-middle class Hillary supporters that he should get their votes. But maybe there is a way into that demo too.
He's going to have trouble talking sense into the elitist democrats of Wake or Durham, so I can't really see him converting any upper-middle class Hillary supporters that he should get their votes. But maybe there is a way into that demo too.
Being legitimately anti-war and telling them he WILL vote to get us out of Afghanistan/Iraq, unlike Price?
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You mean for the blacks or the yuppie liberals?
I know it would work for a lot of lower class blacks, especially if you connect it to the economy.
The yuppies? Maybe so, but a lot of Dems are just as bad with Obama as the Repubs were with Bush. They have the "We have to support our leader" mentality.
With some Democrats, if you play to the "we are going to end the wars and vote to stop spending money on them," you might get a vote. This should work even better for Independents. HOWEVER, the people on the ground need to do this, Lawson himself cannot be seen pandering to Democrats, otherwise the Republicans will turn on him. This is essentially what Roche, his primary opponent, used as his main argument.
I am a big fan of "we have spent $600 billion on the wars, think how many people could have health insurance and food with that money." ~ Dr. Paul.
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I've watched that video a couple of dozen times now and I have yet not been moved.
BJ is the real deal and now that he's won his primary we need to do what it takes to make this happen,.
Dems are not happy with what's been going on, there is a firm pool out there that we need to tap.
BJ is the real deal and now that he's won his primary we need to do what it takes to make this happen,.
Dems are not happy with what's been going on, there is a firm pool out there that we need to tap.
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Totally. The reservation I've always had about that, though, is that Lawson, like Paul, generally supports ending entitlement programs.
Lawson will have to make it very clear that he is for a phased elimination of those programs, so people aren't worried about their family or friends losing their housing or monthly food income.
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Pretty much, but in NC that doesn't always mean they vote dem...
We call them "blue dog dems" and we count on them to vote for us on fiscally conservative issues.
PLUS the largest demographic, politically speaking, in NC, is the independent....and those folks are the "meat."
We call them "blue dog dems" and we count on them to vote for us on fiscally conservative issues.
PLUS the largest demographic, politically speaking, in NC, is the independent....and those folks are the "meat."
Actually this probably wont happen. Due to population increase Price and Sue Myrick have far too many folks for a congressional district so both of them need to be redrawn. If BJ takes the 4th then that would mean the Democrat turnout is low which means the GOP will probably take the house and senate which means redistricting will be biased towards keeping the 4th and 9th gopper.
So if BJ sneaks in this year he will be there as long as he wants to be.
But they are a funny kind of dem. The right message at the right time, apathy in their base and this seat is winnable. I know this district very very well and if BJ has the money to deliver the right message he can win this race. The 4th district of NC is probably one of the most progressive districts in North Carolina and they are quietly seething at Obama and seething over the war. Now if Frank Roche had won last night he would get 35% of the vote in the general like every other neocon gopper gets. However BJ's numbers from 2008 were heavily skewered because of the obama surge in this district. A generic gopper in 2008 would probably have got around the 32% mark (in the adjacent disticts of the 2nd and 13th GOP candidates lost between 3-5% from the norm)BJ actually polled 37%. He also had to contend with virtually the dislike of the whole establishment base and leadership as well some very angry neocons who still dislike his liberty message to this day.
So in short yes it is a long hard slog but this year is looking better at every turn and knowing BJ very well i know he has the will to put in the effort to win this. I would say right now BJ would break the 40% barrier if the election was tomorrow. The right message and the money to deliver it can put BJ in the margin of error and apathy (and maybe some good old fashioned 4th district rain as it always does on election day ;-) will take him over the top.
There is no other candidate i know who could win this seat except BJ Lawson. The guy is a fecking rock star in the 4th and i am no starry eyed dreamer either
The Obama effect will be a very different animal in 2012, I predict. As the country continues to decline, anti-incumbent feelings will predominate. Of course I guess we will be saying Lawson would be an incumbent by then, so maybe he gets screwed either way. :o
But 2 years of Lawson would be better than none! Go BJ!!
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Let's win this seat in 2010 first! We'll figure out how to keep it in 2012 later!
That is actually a quote from Dr. Paul. He doesn't literally state that he wants increased entitlements, he merely uses it as an illustration for how pointless and costly the wars are. I have used that argument with several liberal friends and they really like it. When I tell them it is from Ron Paul, they think it's awesome.
If we get Gunny into the legislature, he can talk to the higher-ups in the GOP about drawing B.J.'s district so that he has an easy re-election for the next 10 years. That's the importance of getting liberty lovers into the legislatures, they can protect other lovers of liberty.
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