LAPD Cracks Down On Jaywalkers - $197 Fines

[phill4paul]

More people die in the crosswalks than in jaywalking.

When you jaywalk you take no chances- when you are in the crosswalks you actually suppose that drivers are going to stop for you.

Ho. Ho. Ha. Ha.

It's not about how many live or die. It is about structural order. As a driver I have been trained to watch out at intersections. That means i can search my I-pod for the right mix, eat my breakfast, pay attention to the truly enlightening mouthings of co-workers in between lights. I'll be glad when I won't have to drive a car anymore. Thank god they are coming out with automated driverless conveyance receptacles. Then I won't be responsible for scofflaws that flaunt lawlessness by crossing the road without the benefit or safety of lines and signals.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Still, the enforcement has struck many of the pedestrians — the new kids on the block — as more than a little one-sided and strikingly strict. When Adam Bialik, a bartender, stepped off the curb on his way to work at the Ritz-Carlton a few blinks after the crossing signal began its red "Don't Walk" countdown, he was met by a waiting police officer on the other side of the street and issued a ticket for $197.

"I didn't even know that was against the law," he said. "I was like, 'You are the L.A.P.D., and this is what you are doing right now?' "P

It must an an Onion article. There is no way it is illegal to cross at a cross walk when the cross walk says that you still have 9 seconds to enter the cross walk. It's just like you cannot be ticketed for going under a traffic light when it is yellow, even if it turns red while you are under it.

I am very glad to know that there is zero serious crime in LA, though. It must be a lovely city.

 

[DamianTV]

It must an an Onion article. There is no way it is illegal to cross at a cross walk when the cross walk says that you still have 9 seconds to enter the cross walk. It's just like you cannot be ticketed for going under a traffic light when it is yellow, even if it turns red while you are under it.

I am very glad to know that there is zero serious crime in LA, though. It must be a lovely city.

Many cops fear the apprehension of a violent criminal, and instead choose to focus on the non violent mundane. Theyre easier targets than trying to arrest a very drunk pissed off asshole with a baseball bat.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Many cops fear the apprehension of a violent criminal, and instead choose to focus on the non violent mundane. Theyre easier targets than trying to arrest a very drunk pissed off asshole with a baseball bat.

But walking in a cross walk when it tells you to walk isn't/shouldn't be against the law. Wouldn't that ban many elderly/disabled people from even legally using cross walks in LA?

 

[phill4paul]

But walking in a cross walk when it tells you to walk isn't/shouldn't be against the law. Wouldn't that ban many elderly/disabled people from even legally using cross walks in LA?

It will bring the archaic practice of Boy Scouts back into relevance reshaped under the progressive guidelines of the Obama Youth Brigade. These young people need purpose.
There is no higher purpose than helping a fellow citizen to be lawful. It is a moral duty.

 

[DamianTV]

It will bring the archaic practice of Boy Scouts back into relevance reshaped under the progressive guidelines of the Obama Youth Brigade. These young people need purpose.
There is no higher purpose than helping a fellow citizen to be lawful. It is a moral duty.

And requiring it by law destroys a persons sense of obligation to that duty, but instead, obligation is shown to the law, which results in the sacrifice of morals.

 

[phill4paul]

And requiring it by law destroys a persons sense of obligation to that duty, but instead, obligation is shown to the law, which results in the sacrifice of morals.

Whether required by law, or voluntarily given, civic responsibility is to be commended. Laws are made for a purpose. If an individual is forced to morally be responsible for his neighbor then it is an effective training tool for those that are not naturally inclined. Eventually, it will become the natural societal reaction that it should be.

 

[LibForestPaul]

LOL...and they won't feel much sympathy for you, when it happens to you.

But hey, let me guess...you're "law abiding" right?

They voted Obama, don't care

 

[kuckfeynes]

So extortion can morally justified, so long as it is being done in the name of civic responsibility, as defined by the extortionists.

 

[DamianTV]

For there to exist a Crime, there must also exist a Victim.

Who is the Victim? The guy that hits the Jaywalker? The Public? The Govt? I looked around and the only Victim I could spy with my little eye was the Jaywalker him or herself.

 

[Danke]

Pretty exorbitant although I don't feel much sympathy for them.

Sure they are free to put their own lives in danger but they can also damage vehicles and even cause injury to others if they get hit.

Beam me up Scotty!

 

[oyarde]

It must an an Onion article. There is no way it is illegal to cross at a cross walk when the cross walk says that you still have 9 seconds to enter the cross walk. It's just like you cannot be ticketed for going under a traffic light when it is yellow, even if it turns red while you are under it.

I am very glad to know that there is zero serious crime in LA, though. It must be a lovely city.

Well , with 20 % of the County on welfare , that frees up alot of time for a stroll ....

 

[Ender]

Perhaps it is only because a very small % of people (the stupid) jaywalk.

I personally watch where I am going while on the sidewalk. I understand the contrarians don't like common sense but I won't change my habits for their approval.

How's that Blue Pill doing for ya? I hate to burst your bubble but most people jaywalk.

The stupid people are the ones who think they are safe in the crosswalks. And, BTW- I am always aware of what is going on around me crosswalks or no.

 

[SeanTX]

How's that Blue Pill doing for ya? I hate to burst your bubble but most people jaywalk.

The stupid people are the ones who think they are safe in the crosswalks. And, BTW- I am always aware of what is going on around me crosswalks or no.

THIS. Around here there aren't many actual "crosswalks" (i.e., marked with paint on the road, signs, pedestrian light, etc) , those are only at major intersections , and people shouldn't have to go a quarter mile or more out of their way just to use a designated crosswalk.

Plus I've found you are in far more danger if you have the pedestrian "right of way" at a major intersection than you are *carefully* jaywalking (at a traffic-lighted intersection if you are on foot and have the right-of-way people will run you down if you aren't alert enough, and often times in view of cops who do nothing).

And technically crossing at an intersection without an official "crosswalk" isn't really jaywalking, but I can see a cop ticketing someone for it. I always try to cross at intersections, just out of self-preservation / not wanting to interfere with traffic -- but know I'm safer doing it at the ones that don't have lights and crosswalks.

It's funny to go downtown and see fat cops and sheriffs deputies waddling around, crossing busy streets wherever they damn well please -- yet I'm sure some of these guys hand out "jaywalking" tickets to mundanes.

 

[TaftFan]

How's that Blue Pill doing for ya? I hate to burst your bubble but most people jaywalk.

The stupid people are the ones who think they are safe in the crosswalks. And, BTW- I am always aware of what is going on around me crosswalks or no.

Whatever. I'm not a fan of prior constraints, but if jaywalkers cause an accident I am fine with them getting blamed.

 

[Ender]

Whatever. I'm not a fan of prior constraints, but if jaywalkers cause an accident I am fine with them getting blamed.

In this we agree.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

 

[oyarde]

I have an unpaid jaywalking ticket from 1985 in a different country.

 

[SeanTX]

Whatever. I'm not a fan of prior constraints, but if jaywalkers cause an accident I am fine with them getting blamed.

Me too, if it can be shown that their jaywalking was the primary cause of the accident. However, no accident, no victim -- no crime.

Of course, there's the other side, in some "inner city" areas I've seen some ridiculous examples of what is truly "jaywalking" , where morons are walking and weaving in between cars waiting at busy intersections, truly impeding the flow of traffic. Here there is the potential to cause an accident, and traffic is truly being impeded, so I might not have much sympathy for those types getting a ticket.

However, we can't count on cops to use "discretion" and look at the spirit of the law instead of the letter of the law. Like the guy in the article ticketed because he started crossing when the count down light began -- if the light hadn't changed yet he still technically had the right of way, therefore, should not have received a ticket.

The $197 tells you what this is all about -- it used to be that jaywalking tickets were more in the $25 - $50 range. A slap on the wrist, not a punch in the nuts. It's just a lucrative new revenue stream for the magic-costumed tax collectors.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

The $197 tells you what this is all about -- it used to be that jaywalking tickets were more in the $25 - $50 range. A slap on the wrist, not a punch in the nuts. It's just a lucrative new revenue stream for the magic-costumed tax collectors.

$197 is the "Revenue Fine"

then there's:

Court Fee:
Processing Fee:
Credit Card payment Surcharge:
State Security Processing Tax:

AND...

18% Gratuity Charge


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