Keep Conspiracies and Negative talk at home

[The Tao Of Bill]

I think the main point is valid though, we're attacking things one step at a time. This march is for Ron Paul and his ideas, the other things need to be done separately or it'll just make it harder to convince people that we aren't crazy or something.

Exactly. You can disagree with me on whether or not there was a conspiracy. But you need to remember this is not your movement. It's Paul's. And by supporting paul you ARE supporting your movement because the truth movement is about finding the truth at it's core. And Ron Paul also wants to find out the truth and he wants to get a new investigation going. I just wish the truth movement stuck to asking questions and didn't go straight to answering them on their own.

 

[RonPaulVolunteer]

Exactly. You can disagree with me on whether or not there was a conspiracy. But you need to remember this is not your movement. It's Paul's. And by supporting paul you ARE supporting your movement because the truth movement is about finding the truth at it's core. And Ron Paul also wants to find out the truth and he wants to get a new investigation going. I just wish the truth movement stuck to asking questions and didn't go straight to answering them on their own.

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[flames2dust77]

9/11 truther here.

my opinion: 9/11 truth signs have no place at an RP rally or march. That's a whole different subject that has nothing to do with RP.

 

[Ronin]

Anyone with a truth sign at a RP event should be shunned. Only a selfish prick would promote their own agenda at someone else's rally. In reality I worry about the skinheads more than 911-truth activists.

 

[RonPaulFever]

Remember, truthers....

JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN
DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD

 

[yankee_blue]

RP wants this. It's about Freedom. 911 truth? Not welcome.

 

[CrazyRonPaulSupporter]

Rule of thumb:

This is a Ron Paul event......


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[The Tao Of Bill]

And we are talking about the truth movement a lot but it's equally important that We save ourselves from political name calling of other candidates. Calling other candidates socialists and Neo-Cons might fly well with libertarians but you might seriously offend someone who is either a democrat or a supporter of Bush or McCain.

The goal is to convert new people and you don't do that through negative campaigning. The fringe movement and the fringe candidate should never resort to negative campaigning. There is a reason Ron Paul hasn't done that. It's because he knows he is a fringe candidate and he knows he has the most to lose by coming off as a negative campaigner.

Just look at Mike Gravel on the democrats side. A lot of younger democrats like what he had to say but he was so constantly ripping on the other democrats that he turned off a lot of people who might have otherwise voted for his message.

Ron Paul was smarter than that and we should be too.

 

[PaulTriumph]

Anyone with a truth sign at a RP event should be shunned. Only a selfish prick would promote their own agenda at someone else's rally.

Wait a minute- I've seen LOTS of RP signs at other candidates' rallies (especially Iowa and NH on TV). Is that fair game or not? Are you saying it wouldn't be OK to bring RP signs to the GOP convention if they want to shut us out?

 

[billjarrett]

Wait a minute- I've seen LOTS of RP signs at other candidates' rallies (especially Iowa and NH on TV). Is that fair game or not? Are you saying it wouldn't be OK to bring RP signs to the GOP convention if they want to shut us out?

They are ok if you are trying to subvert someone elses rally. Not ok if you are trying to promote it.

 

[Evazan]

While I personally wouldn't like to see these signs at the March I think we have to be careful about what is going on in this thread. While Ron Paul supporters will likely be the key organizers of this march, it is not a Ron Paul march/rally. If it is advertised as a Ron Paul March we will be lucky to get 100,000 people and we will be marginalized by the media. This is a freedom/constitution march and we want everyone who believes in those ideals there. I want to see "end the war on the drugs" signs, "bring the troops home" signs, "restore the constitution" signs, and if a couple dozen "911 truth" signs get thrown in amongst the hopefully hundred thousands of other signs, I don't think that is a big deal. I also want to point out that a big part of the 911 truth movement is something we all support, more openness in the government.

Just for the record I am not a truther. I just want to make sure we get all freedom loving people to this march and not isolate any groups.

 

[BiPolarBear]

While I personally wouldn't like to see these signs at the March I think we have to be careful about what is going on in this thread. While Ron Paul supporters will likely be the key organizers of this march, it is not a Ron Paul march/rally. If it is advertised as a Ron Paul March we will be lucky to get 100,000 people and we will be marginalized by the media. This is a freedom/constitution march and we want everyone who believes in those ideals there. I want to see "end the war on the drugs" signs, "bring the troops home" signs, "restore the constitution" signs, and if a couple dozen "911 truth" signs get thrown in amongst the hopefully hundred thousands of other signs, I don't think that is a big deal. I also want to point out that a big part of the 911 truth movement is something we all support, more openness in the government.

Just for the record I am not a truther. I just want to make sure we get all freedom loving people to this march and not isolate any groups.

Well said.

And it couldn't hurt to be handing out copies of America: From Freedom to Fascism, right?

 

[The Tao Of Bill]

I see nothing wrong with freedom to fascism. Though I've never seen it myself lol but I know Ron Paul has recommended it personally so if Paul's okay with it I'm okay with it.

 

[A. Havnes]

Can we sticky this?

 

[Chomsky]

at a freedom rally you are allowed to bring whatever signs you want and the market will work itself out, most likely a majority of people in attendance will not have a truther message, so they will be marginalized.
Have faith in the market.
If you are worried about the MSM filming only the "freaks" at the rally, it is a foregone conclusion, so you might as well start dealing with it now. This is why it is so important that we film this thing from every angle.

 

[beachmaster]

If I see any chemtrails in the sky that day, I won't say anything. I'll just point up as I put on my gas mask.

 

[The Tao Of Bill]

at a freedom rally you are allowed to bring whatever signs you want and the market will work itself out, most likely a majority of people in attendance will not have a truther message, so they will be marginalized.
Have faith in the market.
If you are worried about the MSM filming only the "freaks" at the rally, it is a foregone conclusion, so you might as well start dealing with it now. This is why it is so important that we film this thing from every angle.

Whatever dude. I'm not infringing on anyones rights. They have every right in the world to protest. I'm just saying it's completely rude to give the appearance that Ron Paul supports the truth conspiracies when he doesn't. And while you might convince a few people to join the truth movement you will scare hundreds away from the Ron Paul Revolution. It's not worth it.

 

[CannotIgnoreAnyone]

We're trying to convince people that we AREN'T a bunch of crazy conspiracy theorists.

How Ironic. The people on this forum claim to support a libertarian, but at the same time seek to censor certain topics because it is not politically correct. It's time to walk the walk.

I don't give a damn what anyone else talks about, that's what liberty is all about: tolerance.

This thread is outrageous, and so are the supporters who think they can talk about liberty while simultaneously cowering from it. Utter and shameless hypocracy.

 

[jrich4rpaul]

Too bad Ron Paul announced the march on Alex Jones today.

The tin foil hats will reign supreme...

 

[jrich4rpaul]

How Ironic. The people on this forum claim to support a libertarian, but at the same time seek to censor certain topics because it is not politically correct. It's time to walk the walk.

I don't give a damn what anyone else talks about, that's what liberty is all about: tolerance.

This thread is outrageous, and so are the supporters who think they can talk about liberty while simultaneously cowering from it. Utter and shameless hypocracy.

You're missing the whole point of the march with your ignorance. We are showing our numbers and support for Ron Paul. Never has it been suggested that we are marching on Washington to demand 9/11 truth or anything close to it. Therefore, there's no point in the march having anything to do with it. It's a Ron Paul march.