Justin Amash Will Use Federal Dollars to Protect Transgenderism as President

[tebowlives]

Amash has zero accomplishments in Congress and has a 0.0% chance of winning the Presidency. He is in no way a threat to me. He is, however, a threat to the libertarian message.

You do not know who I support/do not support (outside of Amash). I would be cautious about assuming my motivations.



Rural northwest Pennsylvania.

How is someone with his voting record a threat to Liberty?

 

[PAF]

Amash has zero accomplishments in Congress and has a 0.0% chance of winning the Presidency. He is in no way a threat to me. He is, however, a threat to the libertarian message.

You do not know who I support/do not support (outside of Amash). I would be cautious about assuming my motivations.



Rural northwest Pennsylvania.

Do we now each other? Have you attended one of our liberty meetings?

You are more than welcome to join us, maybe you can punch me in the nose

Hit me up PM if you are interested.

 

[familydog]

How is someone with his voting record a threat to Liberty?

I stated that Amash is a threat to the libertarian message. He is stodgy and monotonous. The only people that would vote for him are either a) leftist libertarians with TDS b) Ron Paul supporters nostalgic for the glory days and c) anyone who wants to cast a protest vote who otherwise has zero interest in libertarianism or even the original intent of the Constitution.

And to be fair, I am sympathetic to the second option.

 

[devil21]

Amash is a leftist. He is not a libertarian. I just wish he would be honest about it. Moreover, he is a boring leftist. If you're going to tow the same line as Elizabeth Warren on something, then at least be bombastic about it. Stand out from the crowd.

If Amash isn't a libertarian, you aren't either and should be honest about it. You're a run-of-the-mill Republican. For some reason people continue to act as if libertarians are nothing more than a subset of the GOP. Nope, wrong. OMG he said something that Elizabeth Warren also said? Oy vey!
Some libertarian positions appeal to the left, some to the right, some to both and maybe some to neither, but the "socially liberal, fiscally conservative" message appeals to many in the middle and the middle decides elections. That is why libertarians are treated as a scourge to the two party duopoly. Libertarians are a threat to that scamming, mind-controlling, divide and conquer duopoly which forces the middle to choose a side of the controlled duopoly.

 

[Ender]

If Amash isn't a libertarian, you aren't either and should be honest about it. You're a run-of-the-mill Republican. For some reason people continue to act as if libertarians are nothing more than a subset of the GOP. Nope, wrong. OMG he said something that Elizabeth Warren also said? Oy vey!
Some libertarian positions appeal to the left, some to the right, some to both and maybe some to neither, but the "socially liberal, fiscally conservative" message appeals to many in the middle and the middle decides elections. That is why libertarians are treated as a scourge to the two party duopoly. Libertarians are a threat to that scamming, mind-controlling, divide and conquer duopoly which forces the middle to choose a side of the controlled duopoly.

^^^^THIS^^^^

And, notice how quiet Trumptarians are about this whole lockdown scam. If Obama were in office, they'd be screaming at the top of their lungs that it was all his fault and he should be held accountable.

 

[familydog]

If Amash isn't a libertarian, you aren't either and should be honest about it. You're a run-of-the-mill Republican.

You have literally no evidence to back up this assertion.

 

[devil21]

You have literally no evidence to back up this assertion.

Your own statements that are calling one of the, if not the, highest rated liberty score congressman "not a libertarian" but a leftist, is all the evidence I need to know where you stand on the political ideology scale.

 

[Sammy]

You have literally no evidence to back up this assertion.

Anyone who is opposed to open borders is not a Libertarian to people like him.

 

[familydog]

Your own statements that are calling one of the, if not the, highest rated liberty score congressman "not a libertarian" but a leftist, is all the evidence I need to know where you stand on the political ideology scale.

Imagine getting this defensive over the honor of a politician that you have no personal connection with.

 

[PAF]

If Amash isn't a libertarian, you aren't either and should be honest about it. You're a run-of-the-mill Republican. For some reason people continue to act as if libertarians are nothing more than a subset of the GOP. Nope, wrong. OMG he said something that Elizabeth Warren also said? Oy vey!
Some libertarian positions appeal to the left, some to the right, some to both and maybe some to neither, but the "socially liberal, fiscally conservative" message appeals to many in the middle and the middle decides elections. That is why libertarians are treated as a scourge to the two party duopoly. Libertarians are a threat to that scamming, mind-controlling, divide and conquer duopoly which forces the middle to choose a side of the controlled duopoly.

^^^^THIS^^^^

And, notice how quiet Trumptarians are about this whole lockdown scam. If Obama were in office, they'd be screaming at the top of their lungs that it was all his fault and he should be held accountable.

You guys are awesome, along with [MENTION=5460]CCTelander[/MENTION] and a few others. Due to limitations I am always out of +REP

 

[PAF]

Anyone who is opposed to open borders is not a Libertarian to people like him.

Open Borders or Welfare.

Seems to me most prefer to be restricted/ask permission during their travels, want to distinguish them from us by way of modern tech such as eVerify, National ID and Biometrics, and employ more Federal workers to "crack down".

So, I will continue to preach End the Welfare, which will cost nothing fiscally or loss of liberty.

 

[Anti Federalist]

^^^^THIS^^^^

And, notice how quiet Trumptarians are about this whole lockdown scam. If Obama were in office, they'd be screaming at the top of their lungs that it was all his fault and he should be held accountable.

I'm not sure if I'm a Trumpertarian or not, but I know I have been screaming blue murder about it and defending armed resistance to "lockdownism" as even some of our weak kneed brothers get the vapors at the idea.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Open Borders or Welfare.

Seems to me most prefer to be restricted/ask permission during their travels, want to distinguish them from us by way of modern tech such as eVerify, National ID and Biometrics, and employ more Federal workers to "crack down".

So, I will continue to preach End the Welfare, which will cost nothing fiscally or loss of liberty.

Stop the invasion at the border before it gets here and all the rest of that nonsense becomes superfluous.

 

[dannno]

If Amash isn't a libertarian, you aren't either and should be honest about it. You're a run-of-the-mill Republican. For some reason people continue to act as if libertarians are nothing more than a subset of the GOP. Nope, wrong. OMG he said something that Elizabeth Warren also said? Oy vey!
Some libertarian positions appeal to the left, some to the right, some to both and maybe some to neither, but the "socially liberal, fiscally conservative" message appeals to many in the middle and the middle decides elections. That is why libertarians are treated as a scourge to the two party duopoly. Libertarians are a threat to that scamming, mind-controlling, divide and conquer duopoly which forces the middle to choose a side of the controlled duopoly.

Not sure how supporting the tyrannical deep state is libertarian.

 

[dannno]

^^^^THIS^^^^

And, notice how quiet Trumptarians are about this whole lockdown scam. If Obama were in office, they'd be screaming at the top of their lungs that it was all his fault and he should be held accountable.

Are you living under a rock? Every "Open the country" protest in the country has been almost entirely Trump supporters, and a few normies who want to go to the beach.

I don't know one single Trump supporter who supports the lockdown. Your post is probably the worst post in the history of the forum. Can you possibly be more misinformed? Is there any possible way you could be more wrong about something? I don't know.

The federal govt. has not closed the country, they have not produced any mandates. They have only given guidelines to the states. That is about as libertarian as it gets, son.

There is not a single person in the country who wants us to open up as bad as Trump. Not one.

 

[ProBlue33]

Justin Amash reminds me of Anakin Skywalker, started off good, but was corrupted by the dark side......

As Obiwan said "Well then you are lost"

 

[PAF]

Stop the invasion at the border before it gets here and all the rest of that nonsense becomes superfluous.

Like I said before: Those who sacrifice a tiny bit of liberty for manufactured false-flag fake security, will soon enough feel the full weight and power of Fed.gov.

One of the founders said that.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Transgenderism or immigration? Which is more divisive in the liberty movement?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Justin Amash reminds me of Anakin Skywalker, started off good, but was corrupted by the dark side......

As Obiwan said "Well then you are lost"

Just wait until he becomes Darth Vader.
But there will be no deathbed redemption.

 

[PAF]

Transgenderism or immigration? Which is more divisive in the liberty movement?

Transgenderism - I don't want to see it, or hear about it. But I will not infringe upon their natural rights to do what they want.

Immigration - If/when enough people quit screaming bloody murder for walls and the requirement for human beings to sign up with Fed.gov, perhaps we can get back to private property and contract rights, reduce the number of Federal agents and programs, leave people alone who don't have "papers please" Biometric ID, and just end whatever incentives there might be. As it still stands at this moment, immigrants without papers cannot vote in national elections and cannot sign up for .gov programs such as welfare checks.

Immigration issues that Fed.gov instigate and cause cost me more in freedom and money than transgenderism does.