Justin Amash: Why I Trust Ted Cruz

[specsaregood]

I guess there is little harm at this point in endorsing somebody that isn't going to win the nomination anyways.

 

[TommyJeff]

Amash is for Cruz

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/270395-rep-amash-endorses-cruz

I'm a fan of his on many things. He said he is voting republican even over a libertarian party candidate. A shame. But I guess he thinks this is the best scenario for his future/national future

 

[Brett85]

He is a Republican. Why would he vote for a Libertarian Party candidate?

 

[presence]

Cruz is going to lose and Amash probably knows that. In the past 60 days Cruz has gone from 10:1 to 100:1 at the betting sites.


This is one of those "I endorsed you, so will you endorse me later?" gestures that just induces face palm for me.

 

[erowe1]

He said he is voting republican even over a libertarian party candidate.

I agree with Brett that I don't see any reason for Amash to support an LP candidate. But I don't see any mention of the LP anywhere in the article. Did you have a quote of him saying that from some other source?

 

[specsaregood]

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[erowe1]

This is one of those "I endorsed you, so will you endorse me later?" gestures that just induces face palm for me.

Why does it induce face palm?

Looking at it the way you describe makes it a lot more palatable to me.

I don't want Cruz to be president. But I do want him to continue to be as much of an ally to Rand and Amash in the Senate as possible. He's been one so far and stands to continue to be one. That alliance should be cultivated.

In fact, if it's really clear that Cruz can't win, maybe Rand should endorse him too.

 

[presence]

Why does it induce face palm?

because endorsements should mean "I believe in your policy perspective" not "I believe I can change your policy perspective".

I don't think Amash and Cruz really have too much in common.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...iness-Kennedy-re-Ted-Cruz-Endorsement-2-24-16

I give you that ted is strong on monetary policy and the second amendment from a libertarian perspective.

understated:

On civil liberties and foreign policy, Ted and I don’t always agree.

-Amash

Amash is essentially endorsing Cruz because "everyone else sucks" but "maybe I could influence Ted a little" because Ted a debating constitutional philosopher and "Maybe Ted will owe me a political favor". Albeit fed audit would be an accomplishment, its still a lesser of evils endorsement, I just find that shallow. Ted has a brand. I don't believe we'll ever win over him over on bombing the suicidal sand people or letting up on the drug war prison state. As "constitutionalist" as he may be he has no concept of NAP.

 

[erowe1]

because endorsements should mean "I believe in your policy perspective"

Why?

 

[Dianne]

Have no fear. They have brought Mittens in to be the extrumpinator.

 

[presence]

Why?

Because if you need someone to paint your house and you ask me for an endorsement;
Even if I know some guy that that cuts nice lines, can get the job done cheap, with great products;
I'm not going to recommend him to you if he splattered carpet bombs on my persian rugs.

 

[Aratus]

Have no fear. They have brought Mittens in to be the extrumpinator.

THE ARNOLD is literally taking over Donald Trump's MC role on THE APPRENTICE! Is this a coincidence?

 

[thoughtomator]

Guess we have to scratch Amash off the list of hoped-for future leaders unless he becomes a LOT more cynical between now and then.

 

[Aratus]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to thoughtomator again.

 

[thoughtomator]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to thoughtomator again.

Don't worry about it. I got a pile of rep so high that Snoop Dogg is jealous of it.

 

[erowe1]

Because if you need someone to paint your house and you ask me for an endorsement;
Even if I know some guy that that cuts nice lines, can get the job done cheap, with great products;
I'm not going to recommend him to you if he splattered carpet bombs on my persian rugs.

This isn't the same though. This is a political calculation. I think it makes sense for Amash to do it. All the more so if there's really no risk of Cruz winning.

 

[TommyJeff]

He is a Republican. Why would he vote for a Libertarian Party candidate?

Would you suggest that Ron Paul voted republican the years he was in congress and not running for president?

 

[Brett85]

Would you suggest that Ron Paul voted republican the years he was in congress and not running for president?

Ron Paul was an enigma. We shouldn't expect other liberty candidates to take the same stance. You have to work within the party if you want to have any success at changing the party.

 

[TommyJeff]

I agree with Brett that I don't see any reason for Amash to support an LP candidate. But I don't see any mention of the LP anywhere in the article. Did you have a quote of him saying that from some other source?

I was watching Kennedy on fox last night (maybe the night before) because Gary Johnson was going to be on. She asked Amash a specific question, something like "would you support Gary Johnson if he decides to run" and Amash said he's a republican and will be backing Cruz because none of the other candidates work with the liberty group and while Cruz isn't the best, he's better than the rest. (Paraphrasing based on memory). I don't have the quote but it was when he was on Kennedy this week, shouldn't be too hard to find the interview.

 

[TommyJeff]

Ron Paul was an enigma. We shouldn't expect other liberty candidates to take the same stance. You have to work within the party if you want to have any success at changing the party.

A unicorn is better than enigma. But do you have a thought on my question? he might have voted for republicans, yes?