Justin Amash Emerges as Leading Critic of Fellow Republican Donald Trump

[specsaregood]

No alternative accounts here but I would guess that since this since started off supporting Ron Paul, it was probably filled with radical, principled libertarian types at the start and only got watered down as time passed. The same way you can guess the takeoff location of a flying object by looking at its trajectory.

The site was filled with people of all types at the start, it didn't get watered down as time passed but rather diminished in quantity. Ron Paul brought people together, hardly all of them were radical libertarians, maybe not even the majority.

 

[familydog]

So does Ron Paul.

Hm...

Ron Paul isn't a politician anymore and has less political influence than Amash.

 

[CaptUSA]

No alternative accounts here but I would guess that since this since started off supporting Ron Paul, it was probably filled with radical, principled libertarian types at the start and only got watered down as time passed. The same way you can guess the takeoff location of a flying object by looking at its trajectory.

I think you'd be wrong about that guess. In fact, most of Ron Paul's support came from contrarians. It didn't really matter what solution he was selling as long as he was pointing the finger at the existing power structure in DC. He was able to educate many of his followers because of that, but that isn't what attracted most of them. That's why those same people moved on to Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump. 3 completely different messages, but the themes were consistent - there are forces aligned against you and they need to be stopped.

That's music to a contrarian's ear.

 

[Superfluous Man]

Ron Paul isn't a politician anymore and has less political influence than Amash.

Nor was he for 4 years of Obama's presidency.

 

[Superfluous Man]

Yes. I don't visit here as often since these days, since currently this forum's most prolific posters are leftists, either knowingly or unknowingly backing world government. Historically, such people have been characterized as "useful idiots", in that they are used to support an agenda which will destroy them.

Trump's agenda of making all the rest of the world's taxpayers fund his projects is the essence of world government.

He loves world government, as long as he's in charge.

He loves cops.

He loves government spending.

He loves socialism.

He hates freedom.

He is, by far, the most extreme left-wing presidential nominee the Republican party has ever had. No one else comes close.

 

[familydog]

Nor was he for 4 years of Obama's presidency.

Of course.

How is that relevant to Justin Amash?

 

[Matt Collins]

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

~ Theodore Roosevelt

Quite ironic coming from him

 

[Superfluous Man]

Of course.

How is that relevant to Justin Amash?

You tried to make it relevant by suggesting that Ron Paul's greater criticism of Trump than Obama was the result of not being in office during Trump's presidency, which obviously isn't the right explanation.

 

[undergroundrr]

Help me out here. Is trump somehow better than Obama? I just see plans for bigger spending and more war (even than Obama!) so far.

 

[CaptUSA]

Help me out here. Is trump somehow better than Obama? I just see plans for bigger spending and more war (even than Obama!) so far.

You need your rose-colored MAGA glasses to see how awesome he really is.

 

[EBounding]

Help me out here. Is trump somehow better than Obama? I just see plans for bigger spending and more war (even than Obama!) so far.

He nominated a judge for the SC who might possibly be decent. He's also been really entertaining. That's about all the good things so far.

 

[Krugminator2]

Help me out here. Is trump somehow better than Obama? I just see plans for bigger spending and more war (even than Obama!) so far.

Yes. Much better. He made a number of outstanding cabinet picks, rolled back some regulations, and appointed Gorsuch to the Supreme Court. Obama was awful.

So far Trump has wildly exceeded my expectations. His budget director was one of the most fiscally conservative members of Congress. We'll see what happens with spending. So far, so good.

 

[familydog]

You tried to make it relevant by suggesting that Ron Paul's greater criticism of Trump than Obama was the result of not being in office during Trump's presidency, which obviously isn't the right explanation.

Lol? I didn't bring up Ron Paul.