Justin Amash criticized by same-sex marriage advocates, opponents

[CaseyJones]

http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2013/03/justin_amash_draws_ire_of_same.html

GRAND RAPIDS, MI - When Vote Equal’s new president visited MLive’s hub last week, on the eve of a march through downtown Grand Rapids, he said ousting U.S. Rep. Justin Amash is one the group’s goals as it strives to build a “progressive” base of support for putting a same-sex marriage proposal on Michigan’s 2016 ballot.

Yet, Chris Silva also noted that Amash’s ideological peculiarities could complicate Vote Equal’s agenda.

“We’d like to get rid of Justin Amash,” Silva said. “But if he comes out and talks for marriage equality, it’d be really hard…it would change things a little bit.”

RELATED: Throw out federal definition of marriage altogether, Amash says ahead of Supreme Court hearings

So what exactly is Amash coming out and saying this week as the U.S. Supreme Court debates gay-marriage law? Amash on Monday during an American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan forum in Grand Rapids said he wants the federal government to stay out of marriage, and he supports repealing the definition of marriage in the Defense of Marriage Act and leaving the matter to states to decide.

more at link ^

 

[supermario21]

I'm sorry but this just proves how moronic progressives are. Why would Amash be one of your top targets? He's probably the best civil liberties/anti-war representative in the entire state? There are other Republicans that are worse, as well as probably a few Democrats that you could take out in primaries.

 

[EBounding]

I'm sorry but this just proves how moronic progressives are. Why would Amash be one of your top targets? He's probably the best civil liberties/anti-war representative in the entire state? There are other Republicans that are worse, as well as probably a few Democrats that you could take out in primaries.

That's why I don't get why Amash has been trying to appease these people recently. Not with his policy positions, but with his rhetoric. These die hard progressives will never vote for him and will oppose him no matter what. However, he does still have to win a Republican primary in a state that voted to define marriage between a man and a woman less than 10 years ago.

 

[itshappening]

They're going to target Amash because they made his district slightly less safe so he's a softer target.

They don't care about principles. They're partisans and want a Democrat.

 

[Smart3]

U.S. Rep. Justin Amash, R-Mich., is the latest Republican to come out in favor of same-sex marriage.

http://www.wisconsingazette.com/bre...p-congressman-comes-out-for-gay-marriage.html

 

[RP Supporter]

How interesting. The president of Vote Equal, A group that supports gay marriage, is actually lamenting that a Republican may come out in favor of it! This is how progressives play the game. The minority they purport to defend and represent is irrelevant. What matters is that Democrats get to take the credit for "saving" that minority, and any Republicans who appear sympathetic must be demonized. It's frankly sickening, especially since Silva all but outright admits it won't be as easy to rile gays up against him as the Democrats would like.

 

[jmdrake]

Wow. Just wow. And people somehow think that if we go "all in" on marriage equality, these nutty progressives will turn around and say "Okay. Now we'll help you get the federal government out of marriage altogether?"

Edit: No relation to this thread, but for the hallibut, I searched for images of "nutty progressive".

 

[kylejack]

Wow. Just wow. And people somehow think that if we go "all in" on marriage equality, these nutty progressives will turn around and say "Okay. Now we'll help you get the federal government out of marriage altogether?"

No, nobody thinks that. That remains an uphill battle either way.

 

[jmdrake]

No, nobody thinks that. That remains an uphill battle either way.

It's better to convince those who have the most to lose (social conservatives) that forming an alliance with us on the issue is the best way to go. That's especially true if saying "Get the federal government out of marriage" draws fire from progressives.

 

[kylejack]

If you don't buy in to the argument that a gay marriage somehow damages heterosexual marriage (and I don't), then social conservatives don't have anything to lose.

Social conservatives are also losing very hard at the ballot box and aren't very valuable allies.

 

[jmdrake]

If you don't buy in to the argument that a gay marriage somehow damages heterosexual marriage (and I don't), then social conservatives don't have anything to lose.

Social conservatives are also losing very hard at the ballot box and aren't very valuable allies.

 

[compromise]

If you don't buy in to the argument that a gay marriage somehow damages heterosexual marriage (and I don't), then social conservatives don't have anything to lose.

Social conservatives are also losing very hard at the ballot box and aren't very valuable allies.

Don't be silly. ~50% of conservatives are Evangelical.

 

[Sola_Fide]

I'm sorry but this just proves how moronic progressives are. Why would Amash be one of your top targets? He's probably the best civil liberties/anti-war representative in the entire state? There are other Republicans that are worse, as well as probably a few Democrats that you could take out in primaries.

It makes perfect sense to me. "Gay marriage" is not about freedom, its about expanding government.

 

[cheapseats]

...A group that supports gay marriage, is actually lamenting that a Republican may come out in favor of it! This is how progressives play the game.

This is how POLITICIANS play the game.

 

[cheapseats]

It makes perfect sense to me. "Gay marriage" is not about freedom, its about expanding government.

Gay Marriage ADDS to the Marriage Industry, whereas legalization of Marijuana DETRACTS from Big Booze/Big Pills.

 

[WhistlinDave]

It makes perfect sense to me. "Gay marriage" is not about freedom, its about expanding government.

1. Marriage is a commitment between two people.
2. Marriage is a commitment between two people and one of them must be a man and one of them must be a woman.

Which one looks like more government? Which one looks like more freedom?

 

[cheapseats]

1. Marriage is a commitment between two people.
2. Marriage is a commitment between two people and one of them must be a man and one of them must be a woman.

Which one looks like more government? Which one looks like more freedom?

1. Alcohol is a potentially harmful mind-altering substance that "of-age" people can use, albeit with restrictions and care, while Marijuana is strictly bad and illegal.

2. Alcohol & Marijuana are mind-altering substances that "of-age" people can use, albeit with restrictions and care.


Which looks more like Freedom?

 

[cheapseats]

U.S. Rep. Justin Amash, R-Mich., is the latest Republican to come out in favor of same-sex marriage.

http://www.wisconsingazette.com/bre...p-congressman-comes-out-for-gay-marriage.html

"And another one down, and another one down, and another one bites the dust."

HEADS UP: I will ridicule and otherwise pillory all "conservatives" who flop-flip on GayMarriage but NOT on legalization of Marijuana.

 

[kylejack]

Don't be silly. ~50% of conservatives are Evangelical.

So you're trying to change the law with maybe 25% of the electorate? Half of half is a quarter.

 

[Brett85]

"And another one down, and another one down, and another one bites the dust."

HEADS UP: I will ridicule and otherwise pillory all "conservatives" who flop-flip on GayMarriage but NOT on legalization of Marijuana.

Me too. Gay marriage is just an issue where gay people aren't getting certain benefits from the government, and marijuana is an issue where people are actually getting thrown in prison for 20-30 years. Which is more important from a liberty perspective?