Judge Napolitano on potential for election fraud in Kentucky

Jury convicts all 8 defendants in Clay vote-buying case

FRANKFORT — Some of the most powerful public officials in Clay County corrupted elections in recent years, buying and stealing votes in pursuit of power and money, a federal jury ruled Thursday.

The jury convicted all eight people on trial, including former Circuit Judge R. Cletus Maricle, 66, and former school Superintendent Douglas C. Adams, 58, on a charge that they engaged in organized criminal acts to rig elections.

After a seven-week trial, jurors deliberated about nine hours before convicting the defendants on all the charges they faced, which included vote-buying, mail fraud, extortion and money laundering.

They face up to 20 years each on some charges.

The jury also ruled they were jointly liable for a judgment of $3.2 million, based on the salaries and contracts they were able to get as a result of illegal acts.

At the request of prosecutors, U.S. District Judge Danny C. Reeves ordered all eight jailed pending sentencing in August. Most had been free or on home detention before the trial.

After the conviction, Reeves ruled that they posed a danger to the community and that there was a risk they would flee.

Family members wept as the eight were led from the courtroom in handcuffs at the end of the day.

Those on trial were disappointed with the verdict.

"When you ain't done nothing, it's hard to take it," county Clerk Freddy W. Thompson said immediately after the verdict as he smoked a cigarette outside the federal courthouse.

It is likely all eight will appeal. One issue they could raise is that Reeves allowed the admission of evidence of vote-buying and other crimes by defendants from before the time covered in their indictment.

"I think there are many, many issues that are promising on appeal," said Maricle's attorney, David Hoskins.

More could be charged

The verdict raised the possibility that more people could be charged with vote fraud in the county.

Prosecutors and witnesses at the trial identified a number of others, including former and current public officials, who allegedly took part in buying votes.

"We are very pleased with the jury's verdict and look forward to continuing our investigation of many of the things we learned in this trial," said the prosecutor, Assistant U.S. Attorney Stephen C. Smith.

The verdict capped the latest phase of a federal investigation that has blown a hole in the power structure that held sway in Manchester and Clay County for years.

Several once-prominent officials were convicted in earlier phases of the investigation on corruption and drug charges, including a longtime mayor of Manchester, an assistant police chief, city council members, a county clerk and magistrates.

Those charged with Maricle, Adams and Thompson, 46, were Magistrate Stanley Bowling, 59; Charles Wayne Jones, 69, a former county Democratic election commissioner; William Stivers, 57, a former precinct worker; and William Bart Morris, 51, who owns a garbage-transfer company, and his wife Debra L. Morris, 50, who owns a beauty shop.

They were charged with using the county election board as a tool to rig elections in 2002, 2004 and 2006, appointing corrupt precinct officers to help with vote-buying.

The indictment charged that Maricle and Adams were political bosses who used their powerful positions to head the effort. The others allegedly played various roles, such as choosing corrupt election officers and paying voters.

The eight wanted to control elections so they could get power and enrich themselves and friends in a place where jobs are scarce, according to the charges and arguments in court.

In addition to jobs, there were city and county contracts at stake for Bowling's excavation company and Bart Morris' business, prosecutors and witnesses said.

"In Clay County, if you're not in politics or in with the clique, you don't get nothing," Kenneth Day, a convicted drug dealer and professed vote-buyer, testified.

The scheme to buy votes allegedly worked with practiced efficiency.

Participants checked lists of voters to identify those who would take bribes and lined up people to drive them to the polls, where complicit precinct workers made sure they voted correctly and gave them a sticker or ticket to redeem for payment, according to the indictment and testimony.

http://www.kentucky.com/2010/03/26/1197075/jury-convicts-all-8-defendants.html
 
Why do so many legitimate, pro-liberty people go on Alex Jones? They're just setting themselves up to be marginalized.

I don't like Ron and Rand going on that show. This is the first time I've heard of Judge being on, though I'm sure it wasn't his first time. It bugs me because now he's even more closely connected to conspiracy theorists.

No offense to conspiracy theorists, it's just that your stigma destroys political viability.
 
Why do so many legitimate, pro-liberty people go on Alex Jones? They're just setting themselves up to be marginalized.

I don't like Ron and Rand going on that show. This is the first time I've heard of Judge being on, though I'm sure it wasn't his first time. It bugs me because now he's even more closely connected to conspiracy theorists.

No offense to conspiracy theorists, it's just that your stigma destroys political viability.

I used to think the same thing, but now I disagree. LOTS of people, congressmen and others, go on Alex Jones. I think him and his crowd can be beneficial as a source of fundraising. I think the key is to not let him bait you into saying something that somebody will use to destroy political aspirations.

Sincerley,

Slutter McGee
 
Why do so many legitimate, pro-liberty people go on Alex Jones? They're just setting themselves up to be marginalized.

I don't like Ron and Rand going on that show. This is the first time I've heard of Judge being on, though I'm sure it wasn't his first time. It bugs me because now he's even more closely connected to conspiracy theorists.

No offense to conspiracy theorists, it's just that your stigma destroys political viability.

He's not perfect but we have to stop worrying about the establishment and "political viability" at some point. Its time to take control of the game or we are always going to lose.

People who worried about being marginalized only perpetuate the power and control the establishment has over us all.

Time to stop worrying about what other people think!
 
I liked Bush's stimulus. I would have preferred we just not be taxed, but overall I liked Bush just sending me money. It's like Bush was saying "Hey, we can't do anything usefull with this, just take it back."
 
Potential election fraud may be something to remind Kentucky voters about -

this is huge for the people to recognize, and could quell the criticism of Rand opting out of a potentially rigged debate here and there.

Running against a sleaze Secretary of State that oversees elections ? Watch him extra close Kentucky.
 
I liked Bush's stimulus. I would have preferred we just not be taxed, but overall I liked Bush just sending me money. It's like Bush was saying "Hey, we can't do anything usefull with this, just take it back."

Uh...all he did was take money from me and give it to you, but both of us will be paying for it in higher taxes eventually. No stimulus is good stimulus.

umphreys makes a great point. I can absolutely see how Alex Jones is a political liability. However, Judge Napolitano is a Fox News Judicial Analyst, not a politician, so he can do whatever he wants and as long as he keeps his job, it's all good.

Romulus: So all liberty candidates should say they are 9/11 Truthers and not care about what the establishment thinks? Hello Debra Medina.
 
Uh...all he did was take money from me and give it to you, but both of us will be paying for it in higher taxes eventually. No stimulus is good stimulus.

You presume you paid more in taxes.

Your argument isn't valid.

I didn't get back 1/1000th what I've paid into the government. You sir, didn't fund my kickback. And you completely missed my point, and my humor.

Of course it's a waste of money to take money and give less back, having to pay people along the way. That's why, long before you accused me of stealing from you, I said I'd rather not be taxed.

I don't take handouts. It wasn't your money.
 
You presume you paid more in taxes.

Your argument isn't valid.

I didn't get back 1/1000th what I've paid into the government. You sir, didn't fund my kickback. And you completely missed my point, and my humor.

Of course it's a waste of money to take money and give less back, having to pay people along the way. That's why, long before you accused me of stealing from you, I said I'd rather not be taxed.

I don't take handouts. It wasn't your money.

I did get your humor. And I know my taxes went up because I am losing more to income tax since then. Additionally, inflation has jumped minimally 5% since then, and by my tabulations, the prices I am paying have gone up 15%. I have paid a lot more than I've gotten back. It somehow evens out because I got paid as well from someone else who is fielding higher taxes as well.

Although truly, we haven't actually paid for either stimulus. We'll either pay for it via higher taxation within a few years or through inflation.
 
Really? And how do you know this?

His fake story about the Phoenix police department where claimed they planted drugs on an officer because they didn't like him. Turns out said officer was a crooked cop yet you won't hear Alex admit he's wrong. How bout the time he showed up the demonstration held by another grass roots group? The guy is full of shit and is only about himself.
 
I used to think the same thing, but now I disagree. LOTS of people, congressmen and others, go on Alex Jones. I think him and his crowd can be beneficial as a source of fundraising. I think the key is to not let him bait you into saying something that somebody will use to destroy political aspirations.

Sincerley,

Slutter McGee

Have other congressmen besides paul gone on his show?
 
Just say 'no' to Rand Paul going on crazy Alex Jones' show any time between now and November. Seriously, stay away.
 
Alan Grayson also went to the show.

I am sure Rand Paul is wise enough to not go anytime between now and November. Maybe never again.
 
Romulus: So all liberty candidates should say they are 9/11 Truthers and not care about what the establishment thinks? Hello Debra Medina.

Yes, if they are equipped to handle it. I for one am tired of these taboo topics that people are afraid to discuss like the Israel lobby, 9/11 and other skeletons in this country's closet. Let the heavens fall where it may because silence is obedient consent.
 
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