Gary Johnson Judge Napolitano on Gary Johnson at Freedom Fest 2012

[HardyMacia]

Judge Napolitano on Gary Johnson at Freedom Fest 2012

[video=vimeo;45765566]http://vimeo.com/45765566[/video]

 

[BSU kid]

At least Nap knows whats up.

 

[Peace Piper]

Very unfortunate that it looks like Ron Paul won't even get a chance at an upset, according to him. If this changes by some miracle, I will walk across broken glass to vote for him.

And it's infuriating that his son stomped on some major enthusiasm. (one day hopefully we will know what really happened)

There is still a chance to expose people to something outside the conventional (R) (D) box and that is to get Gary Johnson into the debates. Even if you can't (or won't) support him, don't you think that it would be a good thing to Let Gary Debate?

Write in Ron Paul if you want. But let's get Gary into the debates.

It will only help in 2016 no matter the outcome. And no matter who you support.

If the choice this year is between Obama, Romney and Johnson which would you choose?

garyjohnsongrassroots.com for the latest news

 

[rockandrollsouls]

I find it very funny those bashing Gary Johnson that sincerely respect Judge Nap won't even comment on this video. If we can't pull up an upset at the convention, damn sure my vote is going to GJ.

 

[PierzStyx]

I find it very funny those bashing Gary Johnson that sincerely respect Judge Nap won't even comment on this video. If we can't pull up an upset at the convention, damn sure my vote is going to GJ.

Well I'll respond. Just like the Judge said, Johnson is better than Obama and Romney when it comes to liberty. But, as I say, he is no Ron Paul.

Every person who is voting for Johnson instead of Paul for whatever reason, especially because Johnson has a "better chance of winning", are full of it. Every Paul supporter could vote for Johnson and that wouldn't be enough for him to win. So that isn't a good reason to vote for Johnson over Paul even as a write in. Now you do what you have to do, what you think is right. If you feel like voting for Johnson is the best thing, go right ahead. But I have some very pointed problems with his policies, and with the "Libertarian" Party in general. I'm going to vote for the man who I agree with 100%, who does have the best policies and the greatest dedication to liberty, Ron Paul. Even if my vote counts for nothing, I will have voted my conscience instead of compromising my principles for politics. I'm done voting for the lesser of the evils.

 

[EBounding]

I don't care for Johnson, plain and simple. But I do think people shouldn't have to settle when it comes to voting. So if Johnson's your guy, go for it. I don't think he'll be on the ballot in Michigan though.

 

[Indy Vidual]

^^^
LP was projecting ballot access in all 50 states this time.

 

[TheTexan]

Compared to Obama/Romney, GJ is better for sure. But he's still awful.

GJ is a disingenuous panderer, and his intent is to co-opt this movement away from libertarian principles, and towards "Libertarian" principles. He is not a libertarian. He is definitely a big L, which by itself isn't necessarily a bad thing, but he has no core principles which guide his decisions

 

[cheapseats]

Just like the Judge said, Johnson is better than Obama and Romney when it comes to liberty.

Bottom line.

But, as I say, he is no Ron Paul.

Who IS? Not Rand, certainly.

Every person who is voting for Johnson instead of Paul for whatever reason, especially because Johnson has a "better chance of winning", are full of it. Every Paul supporter could vote for Johnson and that wouldn't be enough for him to win. So that isn't a good reason to vote for Johnson over Paul even as a write in.

Baloney.

Votes for Gary Johnson will register as a NUMBER IN THE NEWS rather than as opinion in the Bubble.

Wrongly, unfairly, dishonorably, write-ins register BELOW the dreaded "distant last place" category.

Now you do what you have to do, what you think is right. If you feel like voting for Johnson is the best thing, go right ahead.

Exactly so. Free Will is a key component of Liberty.

But I have some very pointed problems with his policies, and with the "Libertarian" Party in general. I'm going to vote for the man who I agree with 100%, who does have the best policies and the greatest dedication to liberty, Ron Paul. Even if my vote counts for nothing, I will have voted my conscience instead of compromising my principles for politics. I'm done voting for the lesser of the evils.

Got you down for HARD NO.

Published statistics claim a board membership of over 40,000. I trust YOU do not consider a matter settled once YOUR mind is made up. So. Do you feel strongly enough AGAINST Gary Johnson or strongly enough about others casting (largely meaningless) write-in votes for Ron Paul to proactively campaign AGAINST Gary Johnson?

 

[rockandrollsouls]

I actually watched the video, and that's not what he said. He didn't say Johnson was better on one issue, he didn't say he was the best of the three. He said, straight as an arrow, GJ was a lover of liberty. And that's not something Judge Nap throws around lightly.

And just like that, the GJ haters are here to rephrase and diminish the meaning of Judge Naps ringing endorsement.

Why don't you read this and stop putting words in the judge's mouth? http://www.dailypaul.com/244579/judge-andrew-napolitano-praises-gary-johnson

I'm still absolutely dumbfounded how a Judge Nap, a man who has fought tooth and nail for liberty and done more than any of us here, says nothing but amazing things about GJ, yet it's still not good enough for some people here who haven't done a fraction of what these men have done.

I wouldn't care if it was GJ or another individual by a different name who was a liberty lover. What I'm trying to show here is there are trolls in the woodwork that will decry anyone trying to set them free if it's not RP.

GJ - good enough for the doctor and the judge. Not good enough for the ideologue.

Well I'll respond. Just like the Judge said, Johnson is better than Obama and Romney when it comes to liberty. But, as I say, he is no Ron Paul.

Every person who is voting for Johnson instead of Paul for whatever reason, especially because Johnson has a "better chance of winning", are full of it. Every Paul supporter could vote for Johnson and that wouldn't be enough for him to win. So that isn't a good reason to vote for Johnson over Paul even as a write in. Now you do what you have to do, what you think is right. If you feel like voting for Johnson is the best thing, go right ahead. But I have some very pointed problems with his policies, and with the "Libertarian" Party in general. I'm going to vote for the man who I agree with 100%, who does have the best policies and the greatest dedication to liberty, Ron Paul. Even if my vote counts for nothing, I will have voted my conscience instead of compromising my principles for politics. I'm done voting for the lesser of the evils.

 

[PierzStyx]

Bottom line.

NOT AT ALL. Bottom line for me is who is right, not who is the least evil.


Who IS? Not Rand, certainly.


Who brought up Rand? But to answer your question of who is better, RON PAUL.


Baloney.

Votes for Gary Johnson will register as a NUMBER IN THE NEWS rather than as opinion in the Bubble.

Wrongly, unfairly, dishonorably, write-ins register BELOW the dreaded "distant last place" category.

Really? I've never seen the Libertarian Party even mentioned on election night or in any newspaper. I bet The Constitution Party gets more votes than Johnson, as it has for the past few years now over the LP. Johnson's name won't ever be mentioned. So why should I sacrifice my values and vote for him again?


Exactly so. Free Will is a key component of Liberty.


Yep.


Got you down for HARD NO.

Published statistics claim a board membership of over 40,000. I trust YOU do not consider a matter settled once YOUR mind is made up. So. Do you feel strongly enough AGAINST Gary Johnson or strongly enough about others casting (largely meaningless) write-in votes for Ron Paul to proactively campaign AGAINST Gary Johnson?

Meaningless? Perhaps to the media. But I will know for whom I have voted and that vote will be full of meaning. Do I feel strongly enough to campaign against Johnson for Paul write ins? Not really. Only when someone Johnson supporter comes along and tries to convince me I shouldn't vote my conscience. But when the question is raised, I will give my opinion. I do get it though if you want to vote for the lesser of evils.

My answers in bold.

 

[cheapseats]

Meaningless? Perhaps to the media.

To the fourth branch of government AND the two parties of the aptly named Two Party Stranglehold.

But I will know for whom I have voted and that vote will be full of meaning.

Your choice, your payoff.

Do I feel strongly enough to campaign against Johnson for Paul write ins? Not really.

Fantastico.

'Cuz the only groups I can think of that wouldn't want him in the debates are:

1.) International Elite
2.) Military Industrial Complex
3.) Government Workforce
4.) Freeloaders
5.) Abortion Hysterics
6.) Hardright Republicans
7.) Brokenhearted, resentful, retaliatory, loyal-to-a-fault Ron Paul Devotees

Only when someone Johnson supporter comes along and tries to convince me I shouldn't vote my conscience.

Got you down for HARD NO.

Not everything that is said, is said to YOU.

But when the question is raised, I will give my opinion. I do get it though if you want to vote for the lesser of evils.

In other words, you DO feel obliged to proactively campaign against him by continuing to insinuate your HARD NO into continued Gary Johnson 2012 discussion?

 

[PierzStyx]

GJ - good enough for the doctor and the judge. Not good enough for the ideologue.

Why would I ever be anything else? Ideals are what matter, why should I sacrifice mine to vote for someone whom I think is the wrong candidate when there is a better choice? And if I did how would it be any better than voting for Romney? I mean if I'm going to vote for the guy better than Obama who has "a better chance to get elected" I might as well vote for the guy who has the most chance right?

 

[cheapseats]

Why would I ever be anything else? Ideals are what matter, why should I sacrifice mine to vote for someone whom I think is the wrong candidate when there is a better choice? And if I did how would it be any better than voting for Romney? I mean if I'm going to vote for the guy better than Obama who has "a better chance to get elected" I might as well vote for the guy who has the most chance right?

"The perfect is the enemy of the good." -- Voltaire

 

[PierzStyx]

To the fourth branch of government AND the two parties of the aptly named Two Party Stranglehold.


And those two parties are going to strangle Johnson right out. again, he will never be mentioned, he will not even get teh LP enough votes toc ome in third nationally. If this is your goal, then he will fail just as much as any write in vote.

Your choice, your payoff.


Yep.


Fantastico.

'Cuz the only groups I can think of that wouldn't want him in the debates are:

1.) International Elite
2.) Military Industrial Complex
3.) Government Workforce
4.) Freeloaders
5.) Abortion Hysterics
6.) Brokenhearted, resentful, retaliatory, loyal-to-a-fault Ron Paul Devotees


Hahaha. Johnson would support all those, just in lesser degrees than Romney or Obama.

Got you down for HARD NO.

Not everything that is said, is said to YOU.

This is a public forum. When you post something on here, it is posted for and to everyone. Including me. I find this comment funny though since I was responding to a comment that specifically called out people who like the Judge but don't support Johnson, people such as me, insinuating we were cowards for not commenting on the Judge's comments. So I did so. It is more like you are stick yourself into a conversation that does not include you.



In other words, you DO feel obliged to proactively campaign against him by continuing to insinuate your HARD NO into every Gary Johnson thread?

Nope. In fact I largely ignore Johnson threads.

In bold once more.

 

[cheapseats]

...In fact I largely ignore Johnson threads.

From your keyboard to God's ears.

There is PLENTY of work for NOBP's to do, getting as many Ron Paul Delegates and Ron Paul Die Hards as possible to Tampa.

 

[PierzStyx]

"The perfect is the enemy of the good." -- Voltaire

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” (John Quincy Adams, American 6th US President 1825-29, eldest son of John Adams, 2nd US president. 1767-1848)

 

[PierzStyx]

From your keyboard to God's ears.

There is PLENTY of work for NOBP's to do, getting as many Ron Paul Delegates and Ron Paul Die Hards as possible to Tampa.

Already bought my tickets and reserved a spot at the Sun Dome.

 

[cheapseats]

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” (John Quincy Adams, American 6th US President 1825-29, eldest son of John Adams, 2nd US president. 1767-1848)

Get this straight: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PERFECTIONISM LITE.

Anger is a red flag and a double-edged sword, HANDLE WITH CARE. The is NO upside to Perfectionism.

NOT YOU...you are down as ABSOLUTELY INFLEXIBLE HARD NO...but I will continue until November to encourage others to consider that MAKING THINGS HAPPEN rather than TALKING ABOUT making things happen IS its own Principle.

 

[PierzStyx]

Get this straight: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PERFECTIONISM LITE.

Anger is a red flag and a double-edged sword, HANDLE WITH CARE. The is NO upside to Perfectionism.

Who is angry? I'm not. That I am not voting for Johnson has nothing to do with perfection, or anger. I'm not voting for Johnson because I believe him to be a bad candidate. That the most convincing argument for him so far has been, "He may not be Ron Paul but he is better than Obama and Romney" illustrates this point very well I think. Its nothing but "anyone but Obamney." Which does nothing to convince me to vote for Johnson

If you're violating your principles by voting for someone then you are part of the problem

NOT YOU...you are down as ABSOLUTELY INFLEXIBLE HARD NO...but I will continue until November to encourage others to consider that MAKING THINGS HAPPEN rather than TALKING ABOUT making things happen IS its own Principle.

If voting for Johnson will help that you believe, then go for it. I'm not here to convince you to do otherwise. I wish you much success. But DO NOT assume you know a single damn thing about me and what I am doing to push the cause along. You do not. And to assume I am all talk and no action is an idiotic assumption to make an dit makes you sound like a self-righteous a-hole. That I am not doing the exact thing you are doesn't mean I am not working to push the cause forward, to introduce more people to liberty, to teach about how the current political machines produces slavery and what we can do to change it. And to get people out to fight against the Fedgov. Intelligence without action will accomplish nothing. Action without intelligence though, without know why you should fight, will never happen.

Answers once more in bold.