Jones says Paul needs 3rd or better in NH

[kushaze]

From what the MSM pundits are saying, or trying not to say, is that Ron Paul has the second biggest support right now behind John McCain. It still bothers me that John McCain is number one in NH right now. I don't think Romney's second place standing is going to hold.

 

[cska80]

Obama and Paul won the independent votes for their respective parties, but they're still claiming McCain has the independent vote on lock down. Don't believe the MSM hype.

 

[AtomiC]

The lowest I can possibly expect Ron Paul to achieve is 3rd place.

My honest prediction based on the number of die-hard supporters in New Hampshire, with signs on every corner and littering the streets, is that Ron Paul will take 1st place.

 

[CelestialRender]

4th or worse means we have a chance to keep building underground momentum, but won't break out until late January. Which may be a good thing, since it means we'd ride our bubble into Super Tuesday (ala' Ghoul's strategy).

But yeah, I think we'd all love to see him place in the Top 3 in NH.

 

[Thomas Paine]

The lowest I can possibly expect Ron Paul to achieve is 3rd place.

My honest prediction based on the number of die-hard supporters in New Hampshire, with signs on every corner and littering the streets, is that Ron Paul will take 1st place.

I hope so. Placing third in NH would start to generate momentum for Ron Paul heading into Michigan where Hillary Clinton is the only candidate on the Democrat ballot so a lot of Democrats and Independents could be enticed to vote for Ron Paul to screw over the GOP establishment in Michigan.

 

[Channing]

I'm sorry, but anything less than 1st or 2nd place is going to be a disappointment. Ron Paul has all the advantages in this state and it has been the focus of our efforts. We cannot blame the media, because Ron Paul has been in the media in the last few weeks. Indeed, straw polls and donor numbers show a massive support for Ron Paul. Whether this turns into votes is another question, but if it doesn't then the system is deeply flawed, and I mean really, *deeply* flawed.

 

[rich34]

Zogby's new poll has us at 6% down from two days at 7%. He was dead on with Iowa, I sure hope the undecideds and more indy's break for Paul. I mean surely we can do better in New Hampshire than Iowa right??

 

[Joe3113]

The lowest I can possibly expect Ron Paul to achieve is 3rd place.

My honest prediction based on the number of die-hard supporters in New Hampshire, with signs on every corner and littering the streets, is that Ron Paul will take 1st place.

This is exactly why vote fraud is on the cards

Half the state is paper ballots and half is electronic machines

THE ELECTRONIC HALF SHOULD NOT BE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT FROM THE PAPER HALF.

 

[i2ambler]

If Paul loses to Huckabee in New Hampshire - we have some serious thinking to do.

 

[Thomas Paine]

Here is some more polling information that is current through yesterday. It appears that Giuliani is declining fast and Ron Paul will probably place ahead of Giuliani by Tuesday. My concern is that it appears that over the last couple days that Ron Paul has started to flatline while Huckabee is enjoying his 1-2% bounce from Iowa thereby placing Ron Paul about 3% behind Huckabee for third place. We must pass Huckabee by Tuesday for third place.

http://www.pollster.com/08-NH-Rep-Pres-Primary.php

 

[i2ambler]

on another note.. this is the crap we are dealing with:

Interviewed after a McCain house party, Wayne Stickney, a 56-year-old store manager, said, “I love Ron Paul. He is very factual. He is everything I believe in. But he's not a front-runner. He isn't going to win the presidency.”

For that reason, Stickney said he is deciding between McCain and Romney.

 

[tfelice]

Just said this. He said 4th would be a huge disappointment, 2nd would be a HUGE victory, and 1st place would be look out and get RP surrounded by body guards.

Jones is right on this, but I would add that a third place finish has to be a very strong third, i.e. within 1 or 2 percentage points of 2nd, and 10 from 1st.

 

[Thomas Paine]

on another note.. this is the crap we are dealing with:

Interviewed after a McCain house party, Wayne Stickney, a 56-year-old store manager, said, “I love Ron Paul. He is very factual. He is everything I believe in. But he's not a front-runner. He isn't going to win the presidency.”

For that reason, Stickney said he is deciding between McCain and Romney.

That has to be the dumbest reason to cast a vote for any candidate.

 

[tfelice]

That has to be the dumbest reason to cast a vote for any candidate.

While that may be true, that is the method the overhwelming majority of primary voters use. The electorate sees voting for a candiate that doesn't have a snowball's chance (for example Hunter or Keyes) as an exercise in futility. They want their vote to count for something so that they feel they are participating in the process. This is all the more reason candidates need to do very well in the early primaries. Those contests, wile not adding up to many delegates, are a test of a candidate's viability.

 

[KingTheoden]

on another note.. this is the crap we are dealing with:

Interviewed after a McCain house party, Wayne Stickney, a 56-year-old store manager, said, “I love Ron Paul. He is very factual. He is everything I believe in. But he's not a front-runner. He isn't going to win the presidency.”

For that reason, Stickney said he is deciding between McCain and Romney.

I wouldn't pay much attention to that. To say Ron Paul is 'everything I believe in' and then consider voting for McCain, pro-taxes and pro-war, I am forced to be suspicious. Paul and McCain are not close to each other in anything. I smell a plant. Still, on the other hand, people are given to multi-belief systems; whether its the water, vaccines, or something else, people make really bizarre and illogical choices today.

In the end this is like saying 'Well, I am Jewish but there aren't many of us, so I have to decide between Buddhism or Hinduism.' A media plant or not, such is pretty absurd statement.

 

[liberty_Forever]

3rd is realistic. WATCH OUT FOR VOTE FRAUD

 

[Rebel Resource]

I'll be disappointed with 3rd in NH, not vastly, but NH should be one of our best states in the whole country. And ahead of the other primaries, we need the front-runner status. 3rd can be viewed as a freak result, while 2nd is indisputably top-tier.

 

[thompsonisland]

The weather is supposed to be warm in NH this week. I know that's just a little, but I think it will help turnout. Unfortunately, we live in Maine now...

I have heard people say that they are voting for Obama because he "can win." Well, so he can. But Obama and RP are so far apart on the issues, that I hardly see how anyone with that attitude could have been a real supporter of Paul from the beginning.

The limousine liberals in Southern NH are big on Obama; have been from the start.

ETA: When people tell me they want to vote for a candidate who "can win," sometimes (depending on the audience), I ask why they don't just wait until after the election to vote. If put the right way, it sometimes causes the bulb to go on.

 

[Johncjackson]

I was gonna ask who the hell Jones was, but then I realized who. And realized his opinion is irrelevant.

 

[Johncjackson]

As far as finishing 3rd goes. Here is why it would be a victory of sorts.

The rumor is if Romney finishes 2nd again, he is done. Especially in what is pretty much his home area.

NH is also supposed to be McCain's biggest shot. He won NH in 2000 and it helped him stay competitive longer. He is the "independents" choice, supposedly. If McCain loses NH, he might be done.

You could have a scenario of either McCain or Romney dropping out or essentially being finished and just limping along.

If McCain wins and Fred finishes 4th or lower, Fred might drop out and endorse McCain.

Iowa might be Huckabee's peak. I hope.

At this point you would essentially have a race down to McCain, Giuliani, and Paul. Maybe Huck is still around going for the Evangelicals. None of these candidates are loved everywhere, and it's clear to me who the traditional "conservative" is. Paul has the money to keep going and has less idiots to try to talk over.

At least thats the way I see it and why Paul is the "'wildcard." He can keep going as long as we want him to. He has a consistent message and support base. and Money $$.