John McCain Will Not Win The GOP Nomination in St. Paul

[Edu]

Because he will not have enough delegates present to actually cast a vote for him at the RNC.

McCain can win fake rigged elections, but he cannot fake the delegate count. In order to become a delegate, you have to sign up first and then get chosen at your county and state conventions to go to the national convention. It's a long process, and a candidate needs the popular support of the people in order to motivate their voters to become delegates. A candidate needs enthusiasm and grassroots support on a national level to successfully fill the delegate seats.

McCain has very little support. He is "winning," empty delegates via fraudulant elections - the "delegates," of McCain's are on paper only, and there are no warm fanny's to actually fill the delegate positions. They don't exist because he doesn't have any kind of real support.

If the primaries and caucuses were a farce, the delegate process will reflect the con in the numbers of delegates....Ron Paul will have MORE delegates in St. Paul than John McCain because Ron Paul has real people voting for him, and he also has real people signing up to become delegates who are being selected in droves at their county and state conventions.

John McCain is an incredibly weak candidate, and his lack of actual delegates will end his sorry ass.

Posted March 16th, 2008 by zooamerica
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/42824

 

[A Ron Paul Rebel]

Yesssssssss!!!

To be most strategic, we want to compile the strategies
that work and don't work, document the errors and offer
their fix and then GET IT TO ALL OF THE MEETUPS!

And for the sake of the future of all mankind, get enough
people to the conventions.

 

[Edu]

Yesssssssss!!!

To be most strategic, we want to compile the strategies
that work and don't work, document the errors and offer
their fix and then GET IT TO ALL OF THE MEETUPS!

And for the sake of the future of all mankind, get enough
people to the conventions.

Yea, it's not over yet sports fans! Overtime!

This thread has some good info on what not to do:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=128700

 

[Hook]

I think it would be more accurate to say that McCain has an extraordinarily small chance of not being the nominee.

And Dr. Paul has a non-zero chance of being the nominee.

But we still need to try, because what do we have to loose?

 

[Conza88]

McCain being the nominee 99.9999999999999999999999999999999
Ron Paul being the nominee 00.0000000000000000000000000000001

sorry bout it, stop spreading false hope, go get brent sanders elected.

Ron Paul being the nominee =99.99999999999999999999999999
McCain being the nominee 00.0000000000000000000000000000001

 

[j650]

McCain being the nominee 100%
Ron Paul being the nominee -3,000%


sorry bout it, stop spreading false hope, go get brent sanders elected.

Fixed it for you. And I agree about false hope. Sanders, Sabrin, and others need our attention. A revolution is a long term project.

 

[TruthAtLast]

Fixed it for you. And I agree about false hope. Sanders, Sabrin, and others need our attention. A revolution is a long term project.

be careful. you are dangerously close to being a "realist".

 

[TruthAtLast]

yeah cause being a realist is a horible thing

lets live in fantasy land.

Doesn't everyone like Fantasyland?

 

[american.swan]

McCain being the nominee 99.9999999999999999999999999999999
Ron Paul being the nominee 00.0000000000000000000000000000001

I agree with the above assessment. BUT!! I believe it is vital we get as many people to the National convention as possible. Make a list of do's and don't, run for mayor, run for city council, run for US House, run for shariff.

We must not loose. It took Washington how long to beat the British? There are many battles(conventions and elections), but we must win this war.

 

[TruthAtLast]

I agree with the above assessment. BUT!! I believe it is vital we get as many people to the National convention as possible. Make a list of do's and don't, run for mayor, run for city council, run for US House, run for sheriff.

We must not loose. It took Washington how long to beat the British? There are many battles(conventions and elections), but we must win this war.

QFT

i love it when people start making sense.

 

[Midnight77]

Because he will not have enough delegates present to actually cast a vote for him at the RNC.

McCain can win fake rigged elections, but he cannot fake the delegate count. In order to become a delegate, you have to sign up first and then get chosen at your county and state conventions to go to the national convention. It's a long process, and a candidate needs the popular support of the people in order to motivate their voters to become delegates. A candidate needs enthusiasm and grassroots support on a national level to successfully fill the delegate seats.

McCain has very little support. He is "winning," empty delegates via fraudulant elections - the "delegates," of McCain's are on paper only, and there are no warm fanny's to actually fill the delegate positions. They don't exist because he doesn't have any kind of real support.

If the primaries and caucuses were a farce, the delegate process will reflect the con in the numbers of delegates....Ron Paul will have MORE delegates in St. Paul than John McCain because Ron Paul has real people voting for him, and he also has real people signing up to become delegates who are being selected in droves at their county and state conventions.

John McCain is an incredibly weak candidate, and his lack of actual delegates will end his sorry ass.

Posted March 16th, 2008 by zooamerica
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/42824

Do we have any facts to back up the assertions in bold?

 

[GoPaul08]

edu...you do SO much more harm than good to the movement. When September rolls around and McCain sails past 1191, honestly...will you be man enough to admit how silly you sounded? Or will you just slink away hoping that everyone forgets?

Again..the reason why you do more harm than good is ebcuase NO ONE will ever listen to what you have to say. People will (correctly so) consider you a lunatic who has lost all touch with reality. Andpeople generally don't listen to what lunatics have to say.

If you think this priamry season is unique AT ALL, then you have shown yourself to be too young to remember any one prior to 2004.

And again..I am not sure why you think you know more than Ron Paul himself, who freely admits that he is not goin to get the nomination.

It is about the MESSAGE now. And you are distracting people from that. Thus, you are worse than the media as far as the cause.

Am I being harsh? Yes. Intentionally so. Sometimes it take a good kick in the pants to get lunatics to realize how silly they sound.

 

[devil21]

Fixed it for you. And I agree about false hope. Sanders, Sabrin, and others need our attention. A revolution is a long term project.

What is this false hope bullshit anyway? Are you going to kill yourself if you think Paul could win the nomination and he doesn't? I just don't get this quitter attitude talking about being realistic and false hope. You want false hope? Talk to an Obama supporter. The Paul campaign has NOTHING to lose! Im especially tweaked when a supporter like Hamadeh takes this attitude. You have been involved and done much more than MANY supporters have yet now when it truly matters you are posting to bring down morale. Whats up with that dude???

 

[Conza88]

I can't wait to personally msg every fken doubter out there, and laugh in their face when you guys turn up wrong.

This thread is troll central - you guys working over time tonight?

"Truth at last" you wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face at 100 miles an hour.

http://www.ronpaulforpresident2008.com/blog/node/92

LANDSLIDE VICTORY FOR RON PAUL IN MISSOURI
Today in Saint Charles County Missouri, the largest Republican County caucus in the state 111 of a possible 137 Delegates were elected for Ron Paul. The St. Charles Caucus was a landslide turnout for Ron Paul. The Republican Platform was amended to oppose the Patriot Act, The Iraq war, the Federal Reserve, Fiat Currency, the Global American Empire, the income Tax, Estate Tax, McCain Fiengold, the National ID Card, The Real ID Act of 2005 and much much more.

- REALITY MOTHER FKERS. Deal with it.

 

[Edu]

What is this false hope bullshit anyway? Are you going to kill yourself if you think Paul could win the nomination and he doesn't? I just don't get this quitter attitude talking about being realistic and false hope. You want false hope? Talk to an Obama supporter. The Paul campaign has NOTHING to lose! Im especially tweaked when a supporter like Hamadeh takes this attitude. You have been involved and done much more than MANY supporters have yet now when it truly matters you are posting to bring down morale. Whats up with that dude???

I agree.

As for "GoPaul08", the kick in the pants worked. When something happens that no one could predict and RP wins, will you be man enough to admit how silly you sounded? Or will you just slink away hoping that everyone forgets? I mean, you do SO much more harm than good to the movement by being a quitter.

the reason why you do more harm than good is becuase NO ONE will ever listen to what you have to say. People will (correctly so) consider you a lunatic who has lost all touch with reality. And people generally don't listen to what lunatics have to say.

If you think this primary season is unique AT ALL, then you have shown yourself to be too young to remember any one prior to 2004.

And again..I am not sure why you think you know more than Ron Paul himself, who freely admits that he is GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION.

It is about the MESSAGE now. And you are distracting people from that. Thus, you are worse than the media as far as the cause.

So kick in the pants, stop being a loser before RP wins!

 

[Edu]

I can't wait to personally msg every fken doubter out there, and laugh in their face when you guys turn up wrong.

This thread is troll central - you guys working over time tonight?

"Truth at last" you wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face at 100 miles an hour.

http://www.ronpaulforpresident2008.com/blog/node/92

LANDSLIDE VICTORY FOR RON PAUL IN MISSOURI
Today in Saint Charles County Missouri, the largest Republican County caucus in the state 111 of a possible 137 Delegates were elected for Ron Paul. The St. Charles Caucus was a landslide turnout for Ron Paul. The Republican Platform was amended to oppose the Patriot Act, The Iraq war, the Federal Reserve, Fiat Currency, the Global American Empire, the income Tax, Estate Tax, McCain Fiengold, the National ID Card, The Real ID Act of 2005 and much much more.

- REALITY MOTHER FKERS. Deal with it.

I AGREE!!

 

[Midnight77]

I can't wait to personally msg every fken doubter out there, and laugh in their face when you guys turn up wrong.

This thread is troll central - you guys working over time tonight?

- REALITY MOTHER FKERS. Deal with it.

LOL. If Ron admits he isn't receiving the nomination, has cut virtually all the staff he once had, Jonathan Bydlak is now on here posting after being cut from the Campaign ... you've heard not one word of Ron Paul in the Media, his campaign removed the Donation total from the main page to not encourage any more donations to come in ... and has not even won 1 single state?? And you think he's going to pull off some astonishing victory out of nowhere and swoop the nomination ... despite the fact I could go to half the people on the street, and people still don't know who Ron Paul is.

You are too much. You should be on the Comedy Channel. Go ahead and msg all of us "fken doubters" and laugh at us. Something tells me that the joke is on you and the fantasy world you live in.

 

[j650]

What is this false hope bullshit anyway? Are you going to kill yourself if you think Paul could win the nomination and he doesn't? I just don't get this quitter attitude talking about being realistic and false hope. You want false hope? Talk to an Obama supporter. The Paul campaign has NOTHING to lose! Im especially tweaked when a supporter like Hamadeh takes this attitude. You have been involved and done much more than MANY supporters have yet now when it truly matters you are posting to bring down morale. Whats up with that dude???

You're just setting yourself up for dissapointment. Ron Paul will not win the nomination. That's already been established. Even if he did somehow pull of the miracle despite the American population voting for John McCain, he wouldn't get anyone behind him. The party wouldn't. John McCain supporters wouldn't. Not too many would. The Democrats would easily paint Paul as an extremist. Look what Obama's preacher is doing to him. Now add some 9/11 truthers and white supremacists, multiply it by 10, and you've got what will happen to Ron Paul. Ron Paul didn't get enough votes to matter in the Republican primary process. He's lost. Just face it. Now I'll stop so I don't get banned for telling the truth.

 

[Shed]

John McCain Will Not Win The GOP Nomination in St. Paul

That would be nice, but the chances are very close to zero.

 

[Bradley in DC]

Because he will not have enough delegates present to actually cast a vote for him at the RNC.

In order to become a delegate, you have to sign up first and then get chosen at your county and state conventions to go to the national convention.

I appreciate the enthusiasm, but the facts are wrong.