John Dennis is running against Nancy Pelosi Again in 2014

[William Tell]

Yes he he is trying yet again. http://benswann.com/liberty-candidate-john-dennis-challenges-nancy-pelosi/ http://www.johndennisforcongress.com/

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Well, the Primary victory will be worth savoring.

We need a liberty Democrat to run against Pelosi. That way they can gain some name recognition and support in preparation for when the old bat goes completely senile (already 75% there) or dies.

 

[Deborah K]

Gawd, I hope people don't turn all purist again and not support him. He may not be a Ron or a Rand, but he's golden compared to that rotten piece of stench.

 

[TaftFan]

Gawd, I hope people don't turn all purist again and not support him. He may not be a Ron or a Rand, but he's golden compared to that rotten piece of stench.

Who was purist? I remember advising that it would be a waste of money to donate to him. I think he raised about a million the first time he ran.

 

[Deborah K]

Who was purist? I remember advising that it would be a waste of money to donate to him. I think he raised about a million the first time he ran.

Trevor Lyman, for one. I lobbied to get a sub-forum for Dennis here, and tried to get Trevor to put him on his site as well, since he was promoting candidates at the time, and he refused. Several people here did too, although I don't specifically remember who now.

Will you be advising the same again? Eerily reminiscent of those who advised against voting for and donating to Dr. Paul.

 

[TaftFan]

Trevor Lyman, for one. I lobbied to get a sub-forum for Dennis here, and tried to get Trevor to put him on his site as well, since he was promoting candidates at the time, and he refused. Several people here did too, although I don't specifically remember who now.

Will you be advising the same again? Eerily reminiscent of those who advised against voting for and donating to Dr. Paul.

Yes, I will advise the same. Pelosi has received 80%+ of the vote each time Dennis has run.

If Ron Paul was just any candidate, it would have been foolish to donate to him (except early on in 2011, when he was competitive). But he was spreading an important message to a broad audience and did so with great success. The SanFran district is not interested in liberty and has made that perfectly clear. Even if it were, that message isn't spread well with congressional campaigns.

There are a lot of races this time which are worth donating to.

 

[Deborah K]

Do as you will.

 

[William Tell]

Who was purist? I remember advising that it would be a waste of money to donate to him. I think he raised about a million the first time he ran.

No, he actually raised $2,369,385 in 2010. and recieved 31,711 votes or 15.2% in the general election. Just for the record, that is $74.71 per vote.
http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/campaigns/john-dennis.asp?cycle=10 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_history_of_Nancy_Pelosi

In 2012, he raised $453,275 and recieved 44,478 votes or 14.9% in the general election. That is $10.19 per vote. http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/campaigns/john-dennis.asp?cycle=12

I believe I did my math right. But I agree we should support whoever we want to as individuals. I know Jurgs has met John, and likes him.

But I personally think money is best spent in Red District primary elections. That are generally, but not always open seats. We could use some fat wallets in the Texas State House races. Wes Riddle would have won his US Congress race in 2012 with just a little bit more money. and he was not the only one in the "almost won" boat.

 

[Brett85]

Complete waste of time. He needs to wait until there's an open Senate seat in California and run for that. The state as a whole is much more conservative than his district.

 

[wetroof]

I'm pretty sure the Chinese-Americans that got Ed Lee elected mayor are in control of this district now. I doubt John Dennis really has a chance with these people.

there's probably more to this story

SF Weekly: “The only law definitively broken by the pro-Ed Lee volunteers caught on film filling out and collecting ballots in Chinatown was the law of common decency. The introduction of a stencil-like device that allows people to expediently vote only for Lee and his chosen items introduces a literal aspect to the notion of ‘machine politics.’

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

2010
Pelosi: 80.1%; Dennis: 15.2%

2012
Pelosi: 85.1%; Dennis: 14.9%

 

[Hyperion]

Good candidate but it's San Fransicko. Waste of time.

 

[Deborah K]

Why would he bother if he didn't think he had a chance? Zak Carter worked on his campaign last time. I think I'll see if I can get an answer directly from Dennis on this.

 

[jllundqu]

Good for him to run, but no one is dethroning that old bat anytime soon....

 

[johndennis]

If someone sets up a con call, I'd be happy to discuss the value of this campaign in specific, and liberty campaigns in general. Just contact us with suggested dates and a call-in number. Our phone and email info are on our campaign web site, www.johndennisforcongress.com.

In Liberty,
John

 

[klamath]

If someone sets up a con call, I'd be happy to discuss the value of this campaign in specific, and liberty campaigns in general. Just contact us with suggested dates and a call-in number. Our phone and email info are on our campaign web site, www.johndennisforcongress.com.

In Liberty,
John

Join date Nov 2007 and this is your second post John John have you thought about running as a democrat against Ms P? The is such a huge number of voters in SF that would rather puke than pull the level for a R even if you can get your message to resonate with them.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Gawd, I hope people don't turn all purist again and not support him. He may not be a Ron or a Rand, but he's golden compared to that rotten piece of stench.

I support John. I recommend everyone support John. Your definition of "support" will vary.

Trevor Lyman, for one. I lobbied to get a sub-forum for Dennis here, and tried to get Trevor to put him on his site as well, since he was promoting candidates at the time, and he refused. Several people here did too, although I don't specifically remember who now.

Funny thing is, John asked me why he wasn't getting a sub-forum here (before his sub-forum was created). I told him it was just a matter of time, and that it took a little extra work to create those sub-forums on the part of the Admins. He said he read the DP, didn't come here that often.

 

[Deborah K]

I support John. I recommend everyone support John. Your definition of "support" will vary.



Funny thing is, John asked me why he wasn't getting a sub-forum here (before his sub-forum was created). I told him it was just a matter of time, and that it took a little extra work to create those sub-forums on the part of the Admins. He said he read the DP, didn't come here that often.

There's a good reason people don't frequent these forums as much as they do DP. We are looked at as a hostile bunch, very cliquish and unduly judgmental.

 

[jurgs01]

There's a good reason people don't frequent these forums as much as they do DP. We are looked at as a hostile bunch, very cliquish and unduly judgmental.

It's up to more senior members to put people in their place when they get hostile and cliquish. The best forums are the ones where the most senior and respected members self-regulate and present a welcoming platform for new members and new ideas. A good example of someone presenting a counter point is:
"I disagree with you because..."

To contrast, I see a lot of people starting their disagreement here with:
"You are an idiot for doing/supporting/believing..."
or something similar.

Proper human interaction is key to expanding your tent and ideas. If anyone here sees people behaving in that way towards someone, they should correct it. If you don't, you are passively condoning it.

 

[Deborah K]

It's up to more senior members to put people in their place when they get hostile and cliquish. The best forums are the ones where the most senior and respected members self-regulate and present a welcoming platform for new members and new ideas. A good example of someone presenting a counter point is:
"I disagree with you because..."

To contrast, I see a lot of people starting their disagreement here with:
"You are an idiot for doing/supporting/believing..."
or something similar.

Proper human interaction is key to expanding your tent and ideas. If anyone here sees people behaving in that way towards someone, they should correct it. If you don't, you are passively condoning it.

Agreed. Case in point:

I just don't get the unbelievably rude comments that Donnay has to consistently endure in order to post something she believes to be important. Refuting data that is presented is one thing, but the constant barrage of insults in nearly every thread she posts is really off-putting. Sometimes it's downright vicious. I know she dishes it too, but who wouldn't when put on the offensive?

I enjoy some of the things Donnay posts and I'm sure many others do too. I think it should be okay for members to post articles they agree with, without getting constantly hammered for it. But that's just me.

and:

Banning her postings was never the issue in this exchange. Being insulting and condescending is. We don't need to go round and round on this. I just don't see any moral justification for constantly hammering someone just because you don't like their sources, and you don't believe the way they do. It almost borders on bullying. And I'm not just addressing you on this. I think we'd all be better debaters if we just stuck to refuting the data more and insulting each other less.

The problem is that some of the bullies are senior members....