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Joe Rogan/Spotify Take Down Attempt
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Twitter thread by Wokal Distance (@wokal_distance): https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1489968800300552197
Thread compiled @ threadreaderapp.com: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1489968800300552197.html
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Once again the woke are attempting to cancel @joerogan
First they tried to cancel him over Alex Jones. Then they tried to cancel him for "vaccine misinformation."
Since their first two attempts failed they are now pulling out their biggest weapon: racism.
Let's talk about it.
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Here is a link to Joe Rogan responding to the various allegations.
You can have a look at that for context.
Then we will discuss the tactics in play here.
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Basically, someone edited together a video of @joerogan saying the N-word in his podcast.
The account that did this is acting in bad faith. We know this both because they edited out the context, and because that account supports Joe Biden, who also said the N-word on camera:
VIDEO (mp4): https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1489975331561766916/pu/vid/480x270/x6BMPBz0QD6Lqy0Z.mp4
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In that video, Joe Biden is quoting someone else for a senate hearing, which is why he said it.
Context matters.
The fact that the context of the Rogan video is edited out is all the proof we need that this video was created, and circulated, in bad faith.
Now...tactics...
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The woke use a very simple, yet powerful, set of social pressure tactics to get their way. They are done by different people, in different arenas (business, politics, media, etc.) but they always use those tactics with the same goal:
Advancing wokeness and *silencing dissent*
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This is how it works
It all starts with "Power Mapping."
In their words: "Power Mapping is a tool to not only identify who holds that power, but, crucially, who holds influence over that person, and, therefore, who to target with your direct actions"
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Power mapping lets wokies determine who has the power to give them what they want, and how they can be vulnerable to pressure. Remember, wokies want to take power. To do that they need to know WHO to take it from and how. This is how wokies "survey the battlefield"
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They want to figure out how to attack, so they map the power dynamics: who has the power to do what and the weakness of each relevant person or institution.
Sometimes the target has no direct weaknesses, so you have to go after them by some other means. This brings us to...
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"Choose Your Target Wisely"
In their words: "You might not have enough power to push your primary target at first, but your actions may help you identify a secondary target...that can be pressured to leverage their influence on the primary target."
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If done correctly, wokies can determine smaller more vulnerable targets that can be pressured and leveraged to go after progressively larger targets. Like a domino effect where we knock over ever larger dominoes. (Pic 1)
How it is being used here is illustrated in pic 2:
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Once they pick a target they analyze the "spectrum of allies" and separate everyone into 5 groups: active allies (who fight with them), passive allies (who agree but don't act), neutrals, passive opposition (who disagree but don't act), and active opposition (who actively fight them).
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The goal of the woke is to determine the social blocs at play on a given issue, and shift them closer to the woke position. If they can shift each group over one notch the the entire political spectrum moves, and they can shift their targets support out from under them.
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You see, if people mildly opposed to wokeness shut up and people who are in the middle pretend to like wokeness (to avoid cancellation) it *LOOKS* like the woke have majority support.
They threaten cancellation to shut people up and move each group one notch to the left...
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See how this works? They find the target, find out who has power over that target, and figure out what they can do to pressure that target.
Once they do that, they apply pressure as they see fit to shift the whole situation to their position.
That's what happened here
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They wanted to Cancel Joe Rogan because he has more power then the woke do.
So they tried to use Alex Jones and "Vaccine Misinformation" to cancel him. When that didn't work, they used an out of context video to call him racist, and tossed it at @TheRock in order to get...
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@TheRock to throw Rogan under the bus. The woke knew that the Rock doesn't want to be associated with racism in any way, and if they could make Rogan look racist the Rock would have to drop Rogan to save his own "Rock" brand.
What the Rock is doing is understandable....
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He has many employees depending on him so he can't afford to have his brand destroyed.
My point is that the woke know this, and they use this to their advantage. That's why Don Winslow did what he did: he wanted to force a response from The Rock.
And it worked.
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The woke are a well-oiled machine of protest, mobbing, intimidation and social pressure. Until we realize that and begin organizing to fight back we will always be on our back foot.
Rogan needs our support, and @Spotify needs to know if they cancel him it will cost them...
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Nothing the woke do is authentic, organic, or spontaneous. It's all cynical, pre-planned power games dressed up as an organic movement.
Every time they get a cancellation their power grows.
Every time a cancel attempt fails their power decreases.
That's how this works...
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So take a stand now and start making these woke activists take some L's before it's too late.
/fin
Thanks for reading.
Thread compiled @ threadreaderapp.com: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1489968800300552197.html
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Once again the woke are attempting to cancel @joerogan
First they tried to cancel him over Alex Jones. Then they tried to cancel him for "vaccine misinformation."
Since their first two attempts failed they are now pulling out their biggest weapon: racism.
Let's talk about it.
2/
Here is a link to Joe Rogan responding to the various allegations.
You can have a look at that for context.
Then we will discuss the tactics in play here.
3/
Basically, someone edited together a video of @joerogan saying the N-word in his podcast.
The account that did this is acting in bad faith. We know this both because they edited out the context, and because that account supports Joe Biden, who also said the N-word on camera:
VIDEO (mp4): https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1489975331561766916/pu/vid/480x270/x6BMPBz0QD6Lqy0Z.mp4
4/
In that video, Joe Biden is quoting someone else for a senate hearing, which is why he said it.
Context matters.
The fact that the context of the Rogan video is edited out is all the proof we need that this video was created, and circulated, in bad faith.
Now...tactics...
5/
The woke use a very simple, yet powerful, set of social pressure tactics to get their way. They are done by different people, in different arenas (business, politics, media, etc.) but they always use those tactics with the same goal:
Advancing wokeness and *silencing dissent*
6/
This is how it works
It all starts with "Power Mapping."
In their words: "Power Mapping is a tool to not only identify who holds that power, but, crucially, who holds influence over that person, and, therefore, who to target with your direct actions"
7/
Power mapping lets wokies determine who has the power to give them what they want, and how they can be vulnerable to pressure. Remember, wokies want to take power. To do that they need to know WHO to take it from and how. This is how wokies "survey the battlefield"
8/
They want to figure out how to attack, so they map the power dynamics: who has the power to do what and the weakness of each relevant person or institution.
Sometimes the target has no direct weaknesses, so you have to go after them by some other means. This brings us to...
9/
"Choose Your Target Wisely"
In their words: "You might not have enough power to push your primary target at first, but your actions may help you identify a secondary target...that can be pressured to leverage their influence on the primary target."
10/
If done correctly, wokies can determine smaller more vulnerable targets that can be pressured and leveraged to go after progressively larger targets. Like a domino effect where we knock over ever larger dominoes. (Pic 1)
How it is being used here is illustrated in pic 2:
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Once they pick a target they analyze the "spectrum of allies" and separate everyone into 5 groups: active allies (who fight with them), passive allies (who agree but don't act), neutrals, passive opposition (who disagree but don't act), and active opposition (who actively fight them).
12/
The goal of the woke is to determine the social blocs at play on a given issue, and shift them closer to the woke position. If they can shift each group over one notch the the entire political spectrum moves, and they can shift their targets support out from under them.
13/
You see, if people mildly opposed to wokeness shut up and people who are in the middle pretend to like wokeness (to avoid cancellation) it *LOOKS* like the woke have majority support.
They threaten cancellation to shut people up and move each group one notch to the left...
14/
See how this works? They find the target, find out who has power over that target, and figure out what they can do to pressure that target.
Once they do that, they apply pressure as they see fit to shift the whole situation to their position.
That's what happened here
15/
They wanted to Cancel Joe Rogan because he has more power then the woke do.
So they tried to use Alex Jones and "Vaccine Misinformation" to cancel him. When that didn't work, they used an out of context video to call him racist, and tossed it at @TheRock in order to get...
16/
@TheRock to throw Rogan under the bus. The woke knew that the Rock doesn't want to be associated with racism in any way, and if they could make Rogan look racist the Rock would have to drop Rogan to save his own "Rock" brand.
What the Rock is doing is understandable....
17/
He has many employees depending on him so he can't afford to have his brand destroyed.
My point is that the woke know this, and they use this to their advantage. That's why Don Winslow did what he did: he wanted to force a response from The Rock.
And it worked.
18/
The woke are a well-oiled machine of protest, mobbing, intimidation and social pressure. Until we realize that and begin organizing to fight back we will always be on our back foot.
Rogan needs our support, and @Spotify needs to know if they cancel him it will cost them...
19/
Nothing the woke do is authentic, organic, or spontaneous. It's all cynical, pre-planned power games dressed up as an organic movement.
Every time they get a cancellation their power grows.
Every time a cancel attempt fails their power decreases.
That's how this works...
20/
So take a stand now and start making these woke activists take some L's before it's too late.
/fin
Thanks for reading.
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It is called freedom of speech.
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He's fucking failing, and it's creating a huge bulge in the line of free speech.
I hate to say this but he's a chump, an embarrassment. He's sold us out.
Fuck Joe Rogan.
I hate to say this but he's a chump, an embarrassment. He's sold us out.
Fuck Joe Rogan.
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For the time being, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt as I don't know the details of his $100 million Spotify contract.
Personally, I'd publicly praise Nancy Pelosi as a hero to mankind for $100 million.
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So you are justifying someone not having any integrity to protect their belief system if the price is right? If so you would not be the first I know on the right that was willing to sacrifice their principles and accept bribes from those diametrically opposed to their belief system.
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Agreed, I'd eat her box for $100M. (not really... well maybe)
But I don't think Joe really understands what he means to the free speech movement in 2022. He's ESSENTIAL. He needs to grab his bag and give a big F U to the Left right now, but he's not. I just don't think he's smart enough to understand what he means within the cultural zeitgeist at this time.
Tim Pool is the last standing vestige of free speech right now. Joe Rogan has fallen.
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Sorry, I thought people were still talking about the "apology" about the recent controversial episodes, which wasn't what the left made it out to be.. and you've already moved onto the new apology. I didn't think anybody had even seen that yet, it just came up on my instagram.
I think he should have just ignored those stupid videos, I don't think the apology is going to help much because the people who promote them have no interest in the truth.
On the other hand, he has a very large, very broad audience these days and many of those people are newer listeners who may not know a lot of about his past, and could end up seeing those videos and getting the wrong idea.
I don't think it's the end of the world.
I think he should have just ignored those stupid videos, I don't think the apology is going to help much because the people who promote them have no interest in the truth.
On the other hand, he has a very large, very broad audience these days and many of those people are newer listeners who may not know a lot of about his past, and could end up seeing those videos and getting the wrong idea.
I don't think it's the end of the world.
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Sure, if the price is right. $100 million is a lot of money.
If Rogan really did pretend to apologize in order to keep his $100mm (not saying that he did, but assuming so) - then I am glad that he did.
$100 million can buy a lot of weapons and ammo. Which is a shitload more valuable than the opinion of some dude on some internet forum.
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There's still time for that to happen. It's looking less likely certainly. But keep in mind, that Joe Rogan's default reaction, his modus operandi, is to try to keep everyone happy.
Clearly that hasn't and is not going to work, so perhaps give it a couple days to let this play out before totally giving up on him.
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How do you even come to the conclusion he would be buying weapons and ammo on behalf of your beliefs? More like he would be buying weapons and ammo to protect his masters from you.
I thought the same thing when I first came back to the thread.
TYT now has a similar problem although quite different from Joe since they were covering news.
https://twitter.com/DrunkNewsHQ/status/1489863120461963268
Even though you cannot compare what Joe did to Ana Kasparian covering news, she handled it well. She is worth something like 2 million, not even close to Joe whose net worth is over 100 million and that was before Spotify yet she had the balls to post this below.
https://twitter.com/AnaKasparian/status/1490030086988259329
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Indeed, entirely possible. I don't know what's in his head, but I'm still inclined to believe he would side with us when forced to make that choice.
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How many times are you going to keep falling for it.
Seriously man, this "everyone is bought and paid for and I know because I know everyone" routine is really, REALLY getting old.
No one thinks you're that special.
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Fair enough... I mean as I said, I don't think he's... aware enough to know what he means to the cultural zeitgeist at this point. He should. And I hope he gets it. But I think he just thinks he's just some dude talking to people, and doesn't really understand why he's the epicenter of the culture war at this point.
He said it to Tim Pool after his interview with Sanjay Gupta - "I think he's a good dude"... No, Joe. No, he's not. He's a fucking scumbag liar and he PROVED it when he went back home to CNN and flipped on you like a narc at a biker rally. You don't defend pieces of shit like that. But Joe's just too nice, and too fucking oblivious to understand where he stands right now.
I hope you're right and I'll pull for him, but I don't have a lot of hope that he'll all of a sudden get it.
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Disappointing that Rogan caved and apologized.
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