Joe Rogan: "I think I'll probably vote for Bernie"

[Danke]

[h=1]LGBT Rights Group Demands Sanders Renounce Rogan Endorsement[/h]Emma Kinery
January 25, 2020, 10:52 AM CST

LGBT Rights Group Demands Sanders Renounce Rogan Endorsement(Bloomberg) -- The Human Rights Campaign is calling on Bernie Sanders to renounce an endorsement from radio host Joe Rogan, who has made derogatory comments about African Americans and LGBTQ people.
Rogan, who hosts “The Joe Rogan Experience,” one of the most downloaded podcasts, said he would “probably vote for Bernie,” adding “I believe in him. I like him a lot.”
In response, HRC President Alphonso David said in a statement that while Sanders’ campaign has been “unabashedly supportive of the rights of LGBTQ people,” Rogan “has attacked transgender people, gay men, women, people of color and countless marginalized groups at every opportunity.”
The statement from the largest LBGTQ advocacy group and lobbying organization in the U.S. pointed to instances in which Rogan had compared African Americans to “Planet of the Apes,’’ and repeatedly misgendered transgender people, including referring to MMA fighter Fallon Fox as “that tranny.”
Sanders has appeared on Rogan’s show, as have fellow Democratic candidates Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard.(Disclaimer: Michael Bloomberg is also seeking the Democratic presidential nomination. He is the founder and majority owner of Bloomberg LP, the parent company of Bloomberg News.)
This post is part of Campaign Update, our live coverage from the 2020 campaign trail.
To contact the author of this story: Emma Kinery in Washington at [email protected]
To contact the editor responsible for this story: Max Berley at [email protected], Ros Krasny

 

[Mach]

Rogan has interesting podcasts, but if you pay attention to some of the shit he says, he really isn't all that bright and has big tendencies to lurch to the left.

Yes, when it suits him.... I think he smokes too much weed and that's why he can't make, some, concrete decisions, but he does have an entertainment business to juggle, too, and that is nothing but a giant sales pitch in itself. He has to leave just enough room for all sides to rationalize their interest in his show.

Again, he is known as Joe "the suck up to whoever is there at that time" Rogan, does that happen 100% of the time? No, but a lot.

 

[Mach]

[h=1]LGBT Rights Group Demands Sanders Renounce Rogan Endorsement[/h]Emma Kinery
January 25, 2020, 10:52 AM CST

LGBT Rights Group Demands Sanders Renounce Rogan Endorsement(Bloomberg) -- The Human Rights Campaign is calling on Bernie Sanders to renounce an endorsement from radio host Joe Rogan, who has made derogatory comments about African Americans and LGBTQ people.
Rogan, who hosts “The Joe Rogan Experience,” one of the most downloaded podcasts, said he would “probably vote for Bernie,” adding “I believe in him. I like him a lot.”
In response, HRC President Alphonso David said in a statement that while Sanders’ campaign has been “unabashedly supportive of the rights of LGBTQ people,” Rogan “has attacked transgender people, gay men, women, people of color and countless marginalized groups at every opportunity.”
The statement from the largest LBGTQ advocacy group and lobbying organization in the U.S. pointed to instances in which Rogan had compared African Americans to “Planet of the Apes,’’ and repeatedly misgendered transgender people, including referring to MMA fighter Fallon Fox as “that tranny.”
Sanders has appeared on Rogan’s show, as have fellow Democratic candidates Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard.(Disclaimer: Michael Bloomberg is also seeking the Democratic presidential nomination. He is the founder and majority owner of Bloomberg LP, the parent company of Bloomberg News.)
This post is part of Campaign Update, our live coverage from the 2020 campaign trail.
To contact the author of this story: Emma Kinery in Washington at [email protected]
To contact the editor responsible for this story: Max Berley at [email protected], Ros Krasny

Joe Rogan and Tim Pool are the same, they say they're Left, but then go off on the Left a lot, FAR LEFT groups put both of them into the Alt-Right category.

 

[eleganz]

The only two people I see here defending Comrade Sanders are [MENTION=28857]juleswin[/MENTION] [MENTION=8093]polomertz[/MENTION]. Hey you guys are the diehard comrades willing to do Mao's work. Honestly, I think we should be giving out the most beautiful red badges to signify those who have pledged the hardest fealty Chairman Sanders.


But despite our fellow red guards pushing hard for the Bernz, Ron Paul would never in his life vote for a known communist. How out of touch do you have to be to get that one wrong? Bueller???

As for Regressive Rogan, he's not "controlled" as some here care to think. He is a meathead comedian that doesn't get deep into philosophical issues, he judges issues based on what he deems as reasonable and logical given that he doesn't have any firm principles as a foundation. He's supported Ron Paul, full throat, in the past so that means he is salvageable as long as he's presented a reasonable argument from the other side. I've seen episodes where leftists/hipsters pushed hard for UBI and its easy to say and have the feelz for poor people that need help, its another to break down the consequences of such actions and TBH, nobody cares about kicking the can down the road to do gods-work-type-things like "save the poor" and "save the environment", especially to somebody with money like Rogan who is probably making something like half a million dollars to talk 2-6 hours a day.

Nobody that has been on his show has hit the counter arguments for UBI and free college/healthcare in a reasonable manner so he obviously doesn't think its an issue. Stefan Molyneux, one of the few that can articulate the positions properly has been on Rogan's show a few times in the past, but hes never tried to convince Joe of anything political, and I don't think he'll be back on in the near future.

 

[Mach]

Feel the Communist Bern


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...a-democratic-socialist-hes-an-all-out-marxist

Bernie Sanders isn't a ‘democratic socialist’ — he's an all-out Marxist

If recent polls are any indication, Sen. Bernie Sanders is surging in the race for the 2020 Democratic nomination. According to a CNN poll out this week, the Vermont independent has reached a statistical tie with Joe Biden for first place nationally. In New Hampshire, meanwhile, a WBUR survey shows the self-described democratic socialist with a 12-point lead. Polls vary, but Sanders is clearly winning over many Democratic primary voters.

The senator’s growing appeal ought to be disconcerting to us all, because Sanders is not the nice, Nordic-style “democratic socialist” he claims to be. At his core, Sanders is almost certainly an all-out Marxist.

His rise clearly troubles establishment Democrats who are uneasy with his far-left agenda. Among Sanders’s most notable detractors are mainstream Democrats Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. The former president, for instance, is reported to be so “anxious” about Sanders’s standing that he’s contemplating publicly repudiating him (although some Obama allies deny this account).

Obama and Clinton may have unwittingly contributed to Sanders’s rise, but they are right to be concerned. The man has no business being anywhere near the Oval Office — not even on a guided tour. The fact that the socialist senator is considered a national leader is a disgraceful blemish on the Democratic Party, a party once comprised by men such as John F. Kennedy, who fought communists, while Sanders defended them.

At every stage in his adult life, Sanders has been an unabashed apologist for communism, an evil ideology with a body count of 100 million people dead in its wake. A cursory examination of this record should disqualify Sanders from public office:

*While people such as my grandfather were languishing as political prisoners in Cuba, Sanders said that he was so “excited” about the island’s communist revolution that watching JFK get tough on Fidel Castro made him want to “puke.”

*In 1980, as most prominent democratic socialists criticized Iran’s taking of American hostages, Sanders joined a Trotskyist revolutionary party that defended the Islamic regime’s actions.

*When the United States was containing communism in Central America, Sanders flew to Nicaragua to lend credibility to the Sandinistas.

*The 78-year-old presidential candidate even honeymooned in the Soviet Union and came back full of praise for it. Some may not grasp how bizarre this was during the Cold War, but, at the time, it was almost unheard of to do such a thing.

*Despite his lifelong fascination with communism, not once did Sanders have the decency to meet Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, a renowned Soviet dissident who lived in Vermont.

Some have tried tricking voters into believing that Sanders is the American version of Nordic-style socialist democrats. This isn’t true.

The Nordics actually enjoy somewhat free-market economies. Conversely, Sanders’s platform, which openly calls for nationalizing major industries such as higher education, healthcare, and even the internet, falls well outside the mainstream of U.S. politics and more closely resembles the central planning committees in Cuba and Venezuela.

Rather than drawing philosophical distinctions without practical differences, Democrats need to accept the fact that Sanders is an unrepentant Marxist. They must confront the forces within their party that enabled his ascent, such as unchecked liberalism.

Conservatives, meanwhile, should follow President Trump’s lead and denounce Sanders and his ideology in striking moral terms. As for voters, well, throughout his life, Sanders has made it clear who he really is, so they should take him at his word.
Nobody that has been on his show has hit the counter arguments for UBI and free college/healthcare in a reasonable manner so he obviously doesn't think its an issue. Stefan Molyneux, one of the few that can articulate the positions properly has been on Rogan's show a few times in the past, but hes never tried to convince Joe of anything political, and I don't think he'll be back on in the near future.

 

[juleswin]

From the article above

Sanders’s platform, which openly calls for nationalizing major industries such as higher education, healthcare, and even the internet, falls well outside the mainstream of U.S. politics and more closely resembles the central planning committees

If this is an open truth, then it would be easy to go to his website and post the portion where he openly calls for the nationalization of those industries. I will wait for a response from the multitude of people calling him a communist to post this evidence.

 

[bv3]

From the article above



If this is an open truth, then it would be easy to go to his website and post the portion where he openly calls for the nationalization of those industries. I will wait for a response from the multitude of people calling him a communist to post this evidence.

Yeah, those websites--and politicians in general--are known for their comprehensive honesty.

 

[juleswin]

Yeah, those websites--and politicians in general--are known for their comprehensive honesty.

The delusional Cuban writing the article said this policy was openly stated in his platform. All I am asking for is for someone to show me where this open secret is written. I am sure thinking every democratic socialist is a communist did not at all poison his reality

 

[ammodotcom]

Joe Rogan has spoken favorably about Ron Paul. Joe Rogan has spoken favorably about Bernie Sanders. They couldn't be further apart politically. JR is clearly a political nihilist. But so are most of the population.

Didn't he semi-endorse/endorse Bernie in 2016? It didn't really stop the Media/DNC from shunting him off to the side into non-contendership. I'm not sure there's much to worry about.

 

[polomertz]

The only two people I see here defending Comrade Sanders are [MENTION=28857]juleswin[/MENTION] [MENTION=8093]polomertz[/MENTION]. Hey you guys are the diehard comrades willing to do Mao's work. Honestly, I think we should be giving out the most beautiful red badges to signify those who have pledged the hardest fealty Chairman Sanders.


But despite our fellow red guards pushing hard for the Bernz, Ron Paul would never in his life vote for a known communist. How out of touch do you have to be to get that one wrong? Bueller???

As for Regressive Rogan, he's not "controlled" as some here care to think. He is a meathead comedian that doesn't get deep into philosophical issues, he judges issues based on what he deems as reasonable and logical given that he doesn't have any firm principles as a foundation. He's supported Ron Paul, full throat, in the past so that means he is salvageable as long as he's presented a reasonable argument from the other side. I've seen episodes where leftists/hipsters pushed hard for UBI and its easy to say and have the feelz for poor people that need help, its another to break down the consequences of such actions and TBH, nobody cares about kicking the can down the road to do gods-work-type-things like "save the poor" and "save the environment", especially to somebody with money like Rogan who is probably making something like half a million dollars to talk 2-6 hours a day.

Nobody that has been on his show has hit the counter arguments for UBI and free college/healthcare in a reasonable manner so he obviously doesn't think its an issue. Stefan Molyneux, one of the few that can articulate the positions properly has been on Rogan's show a few times in the past, but hes never tried to convince Joe of anything political, and I don't think he'll be back on in the near future.

You got me wrong & it was not my intention to come off as a Sanders supporter. I was trying to make a point that his presidential term would be less evil than Trump’s presidential term. That is the only argument I was trying to make. This is coming from someone who’s been screamed at by friends, family & colleagues for campaigning for Ron Paul, voting for Ron Paul & writing in Ron Paul; which according to them lead to the election of *some doofus*. I regret trying to make that “lesser of 2 evil” argument here. That being said, if you believe in Ron’s message, Trump is the wrong guy. You may disagree but I can’t keep a clean conscience & support that man. I don’t see anybody in this election cycle that’s anywhere close to carrying Ron’s message, especially Trump, so at this point I’ll probably write in Ron again. Ban me, call me names, whatever I believe in Ron’s message of peace and liberty & Trump, in my mind, isn’t a part of that.

 

[Swordsmyth]

You got me wrong & it was not my intention to come off as a Sanders supporter. I was trying to make a point that his presidential term would be less evil than Trump’s presidential term.

LOL

You're really expecting anyone to believe that?
Or to believe you are not coming as close to promoting Brnie as you think you can get away with?

LOL

 

[polomertz]

LOL

You're really expecting anyone to believe that?
Or to believe you are not coming as close to promoting Brnie as you think you can get away with?

LOL

I don’t have the credibility others have here but that’s my truth. Ron used to talk about what a President could actually do without Congressional approval. He said it was along the lines of bringing troops home, pardoning all non violent drug prisoners, vetoing every bill that wasn’t constitutional & rescinding executive orders. Other than that, not much he can do.

Edit: ethically

 

[Swordsmyth]

I don’t have the credibility others have here but that’s my truth. Ron used to talk about what a President could actually do without Congressional approval. He said it was along the lines of bringing troops home, pardoning all non violent drug prisoners, vetoing every bill that wasn’t constitutional & rescinding executive orders. Other than that, not much he can do.

Edit: ethically

Which has nothing to do with Bernie.
Bernie is the worst possible option and your attempts to promote him while pretending not to are a joke.

 

[polomertz]

I’ve seen a fair amount of joe rogan and I couldn’t even get through the first 20 minutes with Sanders. Everything he said except bringing troops home was the antithesis to liberty. That’s the comment I should have made instead of comparing him to trump. I know ron would never endorse either of them.

 

[Ender]

Which has nothing to do with Bernie.
Bernie is the worst possible option and your attempts to promote him while pretending not to are a joke.

I think Warren is the worst option- and please stop with the insults & innuendos. It does nothing to lead others to freedom.

I also agree with you that Tulsi is the best Dem option- so don't faint.

 

[timosman]

I’ve seen a fair amount of joe rogan and I couldn’t even get through the first 20 minutes with Sanders. Everything he said except bringing troops home was the antithesis to liberty. That’s the comment I should have made instead of comparing him to trump. I know ron would never endorse either of them.

Orange man bad. Got it!

 

[devil21]

Orange man bad. Got it!

Do you ever post anything of value?

He's right, Ron wouldn't endorse either of them. That has nothing to do with your weak, tired, repetitive 'orange man bad' accusations to any poster that doesn't venerate orange man. To date, neither Trump nor Sanders have done much of anything to further freedom. Or at least freedom for Americans. Freedom for Israel, well, yeah orange man is all over that one, though...

 

[Swordsmyth]

Do you ever post anything of value?

He's right, Ron wouldn't endorse either of them. That has nothing to do with your weak, tired, repetitive 'orange man bad' accusations to any poster that doesn't venerate orange man. To date, neither Trump nor Sanders have done much of anything to further freedom. Or at least freedom for Americans. Freedom for Israel, well, yeah orange man is all over that one, though...

Trump has done lots of things to further freedom for Americans.

But you won't admit it because "Orange Man BAD!"

 

[devil21]

Trump has done lots of things to further freedom for Americans.

But you won't admit it because "Orange Man BAD!"

You guys are predictable, if nothing else.

 

[Swordsmyth]

You guys are predictable, if nothing else.

The truth is always predictable.