Jimmy Kimmel show suspended after Charlie Kirk comments

[Brian4Liberty]

 

[Anti Federalist]

I remember...

 

[Brian4Liberty]

 

[acptulsa]

They're both missing the point. The problem isn't that the government got him fired, because I don't think that's exactly true. The problem is that he would never have been put on the air in the first place if it weren't for CIA USAID money.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

My interpretation is that most of the right is applauding the censorship of speech and this is a road that leads to the censorship of speech.

 

[Madison320]

I agree that the left did the same thing but I think you should always qualify it by saying that both parties are wrong. Otherwise some people might think you actually agree with what the FCC did.

 

[nikcers]

My interpretation is that most of the right is applauding the censorship of speech and this is a road that leads to the censorship of speech.

I really don't see any censorship of speech besides the killing of Charlie Kirk.

Thats what they do in Iran if you say something the state doesn't like they kill you.

If you arent willing to switch jobs or move because of your political stance you are not really an independent person and you shouldn't be voting.

The founders didnt want anyone who didn't own land and therefore couldnt feed themselves voting.

If you are only allowed to say what the people who feed you want you to say you are just a puppet.

 

[Madison320]

It's not about whether they're truly private or not -- of course they are a controlled-mouthpiece but we're all told that they are a private company --- you don't get to treat this as a 1A violation just because the CIA actually runs the MSM! That's the point.

ABC should still have property rights.

There's a common idea that if a company takes public money, or is somehow compromised in some other way by the government, that company forfeits its property rights.

The problem is that would lead to the end of all property rights. For example we all took government money during covid. That would mean we all have forfeited our property rights. So all the government has to do is offer a big enough benefit to everyone and everyone will be forced to accept it and lose their rights.

 

[Madison320]

Right. PBS needs to be defunded because we can't have anyone telling the truth about U.S. researchers giving Guatemalan prisoners and later military syphilis.


This is an abuse of power by the FCC and eventually it will bite conservatives in the arse.

I agree it's an abuse of power by the FCC but are you actually in favor of using government funds for public broadcasting?

 

[nikcers]

ABC should still have property rights.

There's a common idea that if a company takes public money, or is somehow compromised in some other way by the government, that company forfeits its property rights.

The problem is that would lead to the end of all property rights. For example we all took government money during covid. That would mean we all have forfeited our property rights. So all the government has to do is offer a big enough benefit to everyone and everyone will be forced to accept it and lose their rights.

ABC is doing this because its good business. Michael Jordan once said Republicans buy shoes too.

Just because you are a private business doesnt mean you can tell your customers you wish they were dead.

They crossed the line of what we allow for in civilized society. What they have done is probably not even enough.

 

[Madison320]

Only thing is, Republicans do all the same things Democrats do, just at different times and for different reasons. Makes it hard to imagine how one of those societies will really turn out better than the other.

Call them RINOs if you want, but the fact is there are a great many rank and file Republicans who only call a foul when it's against the "other team".

I agree. I believe in the right to secession but if you're just going to make a smaller version with the same violations of rights, what's the point?

 

[Intrepid]

Anybody else puzzled by the 24/7 media saturation of this thing? Like, who has ever even heard of Charlie Kirk except politics junkies?

You know what we have not heard a peep about since the Kirk shooting?

You guessed it.

 

[nikcers]

I agree. I believe in the right to secession but if you're just going to make a smaller version with the same violations of rights, what's the point?

The only point would be slavery or the offshoring of costs to the nation you are secceeding from so you can lower the costs you have to pay which is just slavery with extra steps.

The union would just blockade your trade and leave you isolated and invade and they wouldn't recognize your state as being sovereign.

People in your state would defect and it would fail under the regime in place.

The best case scenario is your state is depopulated as everyone would move to other states and your "state" would become 3rd world with no functional power and utilities like North Korea.

If you had vast enough swaths of territory and people and resources maybe you could end up like Russia which has a lower standard of living than Mexico.

 

[CaptUSA]

Anybody else puzzled by the 24/7 media saturation of this thing? Like, who has ever even heard of Charlie Kirk except politics junkies?

You know what we have not heard a peep about since the Kirk shooting?

You guessed it.

Frank Stallone?

 

[ClaytonB]

ABC should still have property rights.

There's a common idea that if a company takes public money, or is somehow compromised in some other way by the government, that company forfeits its property rights.

The problem is that would lead to the end of all property rights. For example we all took government money during covid. That would mean we all have forfeited our property rights. So all the government has to do is offer a big enough benefit to everyone and everyone will be forced to accept it and lose their rights.

Yeah, the solution is to kick the CIA/FBI/etc. out of the MSM. Deregulate the market. Let news producers produce the news and kick the US Government out of it. Stop coddling communism in America. That's the solution.

 

[nikcers]

Like, who has ever even heard of Charlie Kirk except politics junkies?

There's a reason for not knowing who he is and that is age.

Its like when you are a certain age and you don't know all the bands the "kids" are listening to.

Remember in back to the future when he played Chuck Berry and they didnt like it and he said something like your kids are going to love it?

He was the TikTok generation's Tucker Carlson and he reached an audience that Tucker Carlson couldn't reach.

 

[jmdrake]

I agree it's an abuse of power by the FCC but are you actually in favor of using government funds for public broadcasting?

I'm attacking the argument made in the video that somehow PBS is biased. I have not found it to be. That said the cost of PBS funding is peanuts compared to everything else the government spends money on. You want to give me the choice of spending money to bomb Iran or to spend money on reporting that shows that America could have made peace with Iran back in 2003 I'd rather have the money spent on the reporting. A lot of what PBS did back in the day can and is being done by outlets like "Antiwar.com" and "DemocracyNow.org" but I still think there is a place for PBS and I don't care that this makes me lose a "purity test."

 

[nikcers]

I'm attacking the argument made in the video that somehow PBS is biased. I have not found it to be. That said the cost of PBS funding is peanuts compared to everything else the government spends money on. You want to give me the choice of spending money to bomb Iran or to spend money on reporting that shows that America could have made peace with Iran back in 2003 I'd rather have the money spent on the reporting. A lot of what PBS did back in the day can and is being done by outlets like "Antiwar.com" and "DemocracyNow.org" but I still think there is a place for PBS and I don't care that this makes me lose a "purity test."

The USA couldnt of made peace with Iran because Iran has been at war with Saudi Arabia.

Ever since Saudi Arabia funded Iraq's war against Iran back in the 80s.

Saudi Arabia is a huge source of oil and our economy would have collapsed if Iran was able to run roughshot over Saudi Arabia since Iran has been traditionally backed by Moscow.

We wouldn't even have an economy if that was allowed to happen so we definitely wouldn't be able to fund stupid fucking shit like PBS that we dont need and things like social security that keep seniors from starving to death would have collapsed.

 

[acptulsa]

The USA couldnt of made peace...

Okay. You delivered the misinformation you're designed to deliver. The USA must never make peace.

You may shut up now.