Jim DeMint endorses Christine O'Donnell in DE and Ovide Lamontagne in NH

[Bergie Bergeron]

Maybe she's seen the light like most of us?

 

[FSP-Rebel]

I really don't have a horse in the NH Senate race at this moment. But, I went to a Senate debate a few months back and seen the 4 candidates in action. Ayotte seemed like the typical politician while Binnie appeared to be buying his seat while just talking the conservative lingo. Bender or Ovide would be an improvement over either of the former and likely better than out-going Senator Gregg. The latter two seemed more sincere in their beliefs and would likely be more in touch with the conservative grassroots than Ayotte or Binnie. Also, it seems the NH Tea Parties are aligned behind Ovide.

 

[South Park Fan]

Do you know anything about Christine O'Donnell?

Washed up? She's 41

Political hack? Never been in office

neocon? she's in favor of limited government. Neocons support more government.

She's the tea party candidate in this race running against Mike Castle who sits between Snowe (more liberal) and Collins (more conservative)

She's already ran for Senate twice and lost miserably both times. Isn't insanity doing the same thing over again and expecting different results? And I would consider these quotes on her website to be indicative of a neocon:

"[Christine O'Donnell] Believes terrorism is an act of war requiring the full force of our intelligence and military resources rather than granting terrorists precious Constitutional rights."

"September 11, 2010, is the 9th anniversary of the attack on America. A nation that had grown complacent toward enemies abroad, and the possibility of enemies within, was reminded that evil still exists."

As Ron Paul could tell you, rights are natural and not granted by the Constitution, and the U.S. was anything but "complacent" toward imagined enemies when they bombed Iraq for ten years. I'm not suggesting that Castle is any better or that O'Donnell wouldn't vote better than Castle, but I believe that we ought to hold ourselves to better standards that just endorsing the candidate who isn't a liberal. Then we might as well back all Republican candidates.

 

[South Park Fan]

I really don't have a horse in the NH Senate race at this moment. But, I went to a Senate debate a few months back and seen the 4 candidates in action. Ayotte seemed like the typical politician while Binnie appeared to be buying his seat while just talking the conservative lingo. Bender or Ovide would be an improvement over either of the former and likely better than out-going Senator Gregg. The latter two seemed more sincere in their beliefs and would likely be more in touch with the conservative grassroots than Ayotte or Binnie. Also, it seems the NH Tea Parties are aligned behind Ovide.

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[erowe1]

She's already ran for Senate twice and lost miserably both times. Isn't insanity doing the same thing over again and expecting different results? And I would consider these quotes on her website to be indicative of a neocon:

"[Christine O'Donnell] Believes terrorism is an act of war requiring the full force of our intelligence and military resources rather than granting terrorists precious Constitutional rights."

"September 11, 2010, is the 9th anniversary of the attack on America. A nation that had grown complacent toward enemies abroad, and the possibility of enemies within, was reminded that evil still exists."

As Ron Paul could tell you, rights are natural and not granted by the Constitution, and the U.S. was anything but "complacent" toward imagined enemies when they bombed Iraq for ten years. I'm not suggesting that Castle is any better or that O'Donnell wouldn't vote better than Castle, but I believe that we ought to hold ourselves to better standards that just endorsing the candidate who isn't a liberal. Then we might as well back all Republican candidates.

I don't know anything about her, so I can't say I'm a supporter. But those quotes don't make someone a neocon. They are things a neocon would say, but they don't say enough to make it clear that she definitely is one.

And not all rights are natural. Some are mere legal constructs. The right not to be punished for a crime you didn't commit is natural. The right to a jury trial is not a natural right, but it is constitutional. Some other rights, such as the right to a Miranda warning or the right not to have illegally obtained evidence used against you in trial, are neither natural nor constitutional, but are the result of activist judges.

Or do you think that even the right to a trial by jury is a natural right?

 

[Ethek]

A friend inside Rands campaign supports Ovide. I don't know him personally but he could be an asset to the movement.

 

[lester1/2jr]

rachael maddow makes fun of her every night. apparently at one point she got so into abstinence she wrote something saying masturbation was evil or something

 

[camnc79]

Ovide

Friends in liberty -

I am a proud supporter of Ovide Lamontagne. Just to give insight into his views, he is very strong on the 10th Amendment. He talks about the Constitution during every speech and every debate. Furthermore, he understands it.

What really differentiates him from every other Republican candidate in the race is that he says he would have opposed going into Iraq given what he knows today. Would he have opposed it to begin with? I don't know the answer to that, but at least he is not a Neocon apologist like others who say they would have gone in regardless.

I believe Ovide will work well with individuals like Rand Paul and I hope that if you're in New Hampshire and are Undeclared or a Republican that you'll cast your vote this Tuesday for Ovide.

Thank you!

Cam DeJong
Manchester, NH

 

[AlexMerced]

rachael maddow makes fun of her every night. apparently at one point she got so into abstinence she wrote something saying masturbation was evil or something

I was gonna write this as a response to the abstain comment in the first page of this thread


Well, I get messages about her like everyday on facebook, like other races I'm pretty ambivalent

I really main care about Paul, Bradley, Didier, Lawson, and Dennis

 

[MRoCkEd]

Friends in liberty -

I am a proud supporter of Ovide Lamontagne. Just to give insight into his views, he is very strong on the 10th Amendment. He talks about the Constitution during every speech and every debate. Furthermore, he understands it.

What really differentiates him from every other Republican candidate in the race is that he says he would have opposed going into Iraq given what he knows today. Would he have opposed it to begin with? I don't know the answer to that, but at least he is not a Neocon apologist like others who say they would have gone in regardless.

I believe Ovide will work well with individuals like Rand Paul and I hope that if you're in New Hampshire and are Undeclared or a Republican that you'll cast your vote this Tuesday for Ovide.

Thank you!

Cam DeJong
Manchester, NH

Thanks for the info. I hope he wins then!

 

[parocks]

2008 is not 2010. Democrats were popular in 2008, Republicans are popular in 2010.

Biden is not Coons. Biden is extremely well known and was extremely popular in Delaware in 2008. Coons is nowhere near as well known and well liked as Biden was in 2008.

When the conditions are the same, it's crazy to think the result would be different.
The conditions are vastly different in 2010.

Many Ron Paul supporters believe, like you, that any Republican who holds a terrorism policy similar to Christine's is a neocon.

Neocons believe in bigger Federal Government at home as well as abroad.
The Neocon foreign policy is pretty much the standard Republican Foreign Policy at this time. All Republicans that have any mainstream popularity have some version of that foreign policy.

But neocon is more than foreign policy. Neocon is big government up and down the line. Christine is for limited Constitutional government, neocons are not.

She's already ran for Senate twice and lost miserably both times. Isn't insanity doing the same thing over again and expecting different results? And I would consider these quotes on her website to be indicative of a neocon:

"[Christine O'Donnell] Believes terrorism is an act of war requiring the full force of our intelligence and military resources rather than granting terrorists precious Constitutional rights."

"September 11, 2010, is the 9th anniversary of the attack on America. A nation that had grown complacent toward enemies abroad, and the possibility of enemies within, was reminded that evil still exists."

As Ron Paul could tell you, rights are natural and not granted by the Constitution, and the U.S. was anything but "complacent" toward imagined enemies when they bombed Iraq for ten years. I'm not suggesting that Castle is any better or that O'Donnell wouldn't vote better than Castle, but I believe that we ought to hold ourselves to better standards that just endorsing the candidate who isn't a liberal. Then we might as well back all Republican candidates.

 

[parocks]

How could you possibly know what Rachael Maddow is saying every night?

rachael maddow makes fun of her every night. apparently at one point she got so into abstinence she wrote something saying masturbation was evil or something

 

[forsmant]

The warfare state is bankrupting America just as much as the welfare state.

 

[erowe1]

Neocons believe in bigger Federal Government at home as well as abroad.
The Neocon foreign policy is pretty much the standard Republican Foreign Policy at this time. All Republicans that have any mainstream popularity have some version of that foreign policy.

Neoconservatism is all about foreign policy. It's true that neocons tend to be moderate or liberal on domestic issues. But that's not what makes them neocons. If someone has a neoconservative foreign policy, then they're a neoconservative.

What are some of the things you like about her domestic policy?

 

[parocks]

You're in error.

Neocon is both foreign and domestic. Big Government in both. Neocons are ex Trotskyites. Ex Democrats.

Christine believes in Limited Constitutional Government.

She would vote against Obama and the Democrats. Castle votes with Obama and the Democrats more than half the time.

Key is Cap and Trade. Christine is against it. Castle has voted for it.

Neoconservatism is all about foreign policy. It's true that neocons tend to be moderate or liberal on domestic issues. But that's not what makes them neocons. If someone has a neoconservative foreign policy, then they're a neoconservative.

What are some of the things you like about her domestic policy?

 

[lester1/2jr]

parocks- I watch her most nights? not the whole show usually.

 

[erowe1]

Neocon is both foreign and domestic. Big Government in both. Neocons are ex Trotskyites. Ex Democrats.

Where'd you get that? From a JBS article?

Some neoconservatives are that, others aren't.

The only defining aspect of neoconservatism is its foreign policy, mainly advocacy of promoting, installing, and protecting democratic regimes abroad. There may be more to it than that. But domestic policy isn't part of it.

 

[low preference guy]

The only defining aspect of neoconservatism is its foreign policy, mainly advocacy of promoting, installing, and protecting democratic regimes abroad. There may be more to it than that. But domestic policy isn't part of it.

Aren't neocons OK with protecting foreign dictators when it helps their interests?

 

[erowe1]

Christine believes in Limited Constitutional Government.

When you put it in abstract terms like that, everyone is for limited constitutional government, including Obama.

She would vote against Obama and the Democrats.

So would pretty much every Republican when they're the minority party.

But here's the question. What's going to happen when the Republicans are in the majority? When they propose their own expansions of government, will she vote the right way (i.e. will she do the exact opposite of what you said she would do and break ranks from her party and vote no along with the Democrats)?

Key is Cap and Trade. Christine is against it. Castle has voted for it.

So cap and trade is the main difference. Better than nothing.

 

[erowe1]

Aren't neocons OK with protecting foreign dictators when it helps their interests?

No. That's not neoconservatism. Unless, by "their interests" you mean somehow promoting democracy so that they support some dictator in some short-term way to help some other democracy, like allying with Saudi Arabia to take advantage of assistance from them in deposing Saddam Hussein.

Reagan, for example, was not a neoconservative.