Jesse Ventura 2016

[RickyJ]

I have mixed feelings about him. i was reading through his book Democrips and Rebloodicans at B&N and found it to be quite interesting, even though I don't agree with all his positions. He does give Ron credit for standing up to the Fed and political corruption.

I really liked his chapter on Ron Paul. That is all I have read, and I also read it at Barnes and Noble. I hope that bookstore can stay around, I would really miss it if it went bankrupt.

 

[RickyJ]

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[kill the banks]

the truth needs voices ... I hope Jesse finds a place where he can excell ... do not underestimate this man ( he can and has changed minds / the media mafia needs competition )

 

[donnay]

For starters, he supports Obamacare.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...republicans-are-like-crips-and-bloods/258652/


There are many many many more things I can go google and get links to show he's for a big centralized government. I've heard him talk enough. It's just a matter of searching the links and I think you are being facetious to deny it if you are such a fan of his and know so much about him.

You have got to admit he definitely has a point about congressional health care. And he is also right, you are not going to agree with a candidate on every issue. One thing I applaud him is that he speaks out about the two party corruption.

 

[tttppp]

You have got to admit he definitely has a point about congressional health care. And he is also right, you are not going to agree with a candidate on every issue. One thing I applaud him is that he speaks out about the two party corruption.

Its one thing to identify a problem. However, a president should be able to create a solution that most americans couldn't think of themselves. That's where Ron Paul separates himself from most people. Based on the quotes in this thread on Ventura on health care, he identified the problem, but did not have a good solution. I could agree with half the democrats on what is a problem, however Id agree with none of them on what the solution should be. Just identifying a problem is not good enough for me.

 

[fr33]

You have got to admit he definitely has a point about congressional health care. And he is also right, you are not going to agree with a candidate on every issue. One thing I applaud him is that he speaks out about the two party corruption.

Then you agree with Obama on that. I don't. I support free market economics. Healthcare is overpriced because of government involvement. Period.

 

[donnay]

Then you agree with Obama on that. I don't. I support free market economics. Healthcare is overpriced because of government involvement. Period.

The point I was going with is, that Congress has the best of the best, not the proles (us). The best health care and retirement packages off the backs of proles. I am not for any of it. Government is too damn big and needs to be downsized to a limited government our founders set us up with.

I am also for a free market.

 

[donnay]

Its one thing to identify a problem. However, a president should be able to create a solution that most americans couldn't think of themselves. That's where Ron Paul separates himself from most people. Based on the quotes in this thread on Ventura on health care, he identified the problem, but did not have a good solution. I could agree with half the democrats on what is a problem, however Id agree with none of them on what the solution should be. Just identifying a problem is not good enough for me.

Jesse has given lots of solutions to problems we face--one of which is to stop voting for the lesser of two evils. That's a start.

 

[tttppp]

Jesse has given lots of solutions to problems we face--one of which is to stop voting for the lesser of two evils. That's a start.

I'm willing to listen to some of his proposed solutions. That's why I asked earlier in this thread what his policies were. Not voting for the lesser of two evils is something a five year old can come with. I agree with him, but that doesn't qualify someone to be president. One thing that would help qualify him, would be a solution that would fix the problems with the two party system.

 

[LibertasPraesidium]

Ventura/Paul

Ventura/Not Paul? Someone said that his running mate would be huge. Someone huge on economics (Peter Schiff) lol. Who would make a good choice. I want to see what happens it's not hard to get him on the ballot for 2016 in this state. (I live in MN, he won governor, people still like him because they don't watch the conspiracy stuff.)

My fiancee has a good in-touch thought process with the sheep type of thinking and immediately said he is a nut job. (She is slowly catching on and even stole my spot next to Ron Paul in a picture when he came to the MN HQ.)

But deep down, if he comes up with a good platform, (as a complete independent) he could have a shot and I would definitively vote for him. Thousands of questions remain about the next election but we might as well start thinking and acting now.

As far as his chances, let his team of advisers figure that out (that would be one special group of people) the rest is in the hands of the people. If you want the conspiracy candidate, then make it happen.

This is a solitary choice, if a movement grows, and expands enough he may get enough support. But the baggage he carries is not small, he may be a big guy but dealing with it will be a solid chore. I would rather have him in office, (assuming he has a good liberty platform) than almost anyone that has ran in the past 30 years. (Save for RP of course if he (Ron) runs its all over for Jesse.)

 

[Occam's Banana]

33 votes for Paul at the RNC.

That is not "in these regards."

 

[Peace&Freedom]

Sorry but I do believe you would lose even worse with a conspiracy candidate like Ventura. If you think Ron Paul was marginalized by the media, you ain't seen nothin' yet.

I'll just reiterate: the CLAIM that we "would lose even worse with a conspiracy candidate" is a CLAIM, a theory that never gets tested for real. Repeating the claim over and over doesn't make it true, until we actually run some candidates on that basis and find out. The notion that we would WIN with a national candidate not raising relevant conspiracy issues HAS been tested, however, twice, and so far found wanting.

I often said before Paul's 2012 run, are the same people who demanded Paul distance himself from from 9/11 truth and other cover-ups, only to see him fail to win any primaries last time, going to insist doing it their way was still the only right path going forward? Now that they're 0-2, are they still going to maintain that attitude? Or can we at last let the opposite approach get its turn at bat?

 

[Carlybee]

You can't look at Jesse and try to compare him to Repubs or Dems because he really is in a mold of his own.
I think his biggest roadblock would be things like telling Piers Morgan he's an athiest. That would be used against him..but could also work for him.

 

[WilliamShrugged]

I will support the run but i just don't see him winning. He's lucky to win MN, NH, NV granted that Romney isn't the president because his mormon voters in NV will come out and NH has gone towards Romney quite often being that he has a place there and governed in Mass. If Ron's run was a purpose to educate, then Ventura's is meant to show how tired we are of the bs the system has shown. AND I ALL FOR IT!

 

[donnay]

You can't look at Jesse and try to compare him to Repubs or Dems because he really is in a mold of his own.
I think his biggest roadblock would be things like telling Piers Morgan he's an athiest. That would be used against him..but could also work for him.

At least Jesse is upfront and honest about it. Not like the politicians in DC who claim to believe in God while their actions and deeds prove just the opposite. George W. Bush comes to mind; "God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq."

 

[Carlybee]

I agree Donnay but I think it would really send the PTB after him. After all they need that perfect balance of moralizing and fearmongering to continue the campaign of building empire just like they did back during the Roman empire days.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

I couldn't get behind The Body in 2016. Believes in too much intervention economically.

I'd thoroughly enjoy his hammering of our foreign policy, though.

 

[Liberty74]

I would be in 100%.

Who cares if the crazy media or other people go after Ventura because of his conspiracy show? Ventura will eat those people alive because he just won't sit there and take it like most politicians.

It's called fighting. He pulled it off in Minn after all the naysayers.

Ventura is a libertarian, would represent the people and be beholden to some stupid criminal party.

Go Indy! Amass the masses.

My first choice of course is Judge NAP.

 

[donnay]

I will support the run but i just don't see him winning. He's lucky to win MN, NH, NV granted that Romney isn't the president because his mormon voters in NV will come out and NH has gone towards Romney quite often being that he has a place there and governed in Mass. If Ron's run was a purpose to educate, then Ventura's is meant to show how tired we are of the bs the system has shown. AND I ALL FOR IT!

How do you win in a corrupt system--you win the hearts and minds of the people. The people wake up, we round up the criminals and we take our country back! The last two elections Dr. Paul and the grassroots have done the reconnaissances. The people have the power--they always have. They just need someone to reassure them, until they truly understand it--Jesse is the man to do it, IMHO.

 

[Badger Paul]

Hey, if you don't want to support Rand or Hilary Clinton - Jesse Ventura is your guy in 2016.

I like Jesse too, but he won't have a chance unless he starts taking himself seriously.

Still, it's a nice safety valve for those not wanting to get on the Rand train. Now you don't have to worry about Jesse Benton kicking you off.