Jesse Ventura 2016

It might work. I could see the final results like this.
Clinton 48%
Bush 44%
Ventura 7%
Geenie 1%
LP 0.3%

or maybe

Clinton 48%
Christie 44%
Ventura 7%
Geenie 1%
LP 0.3%

or maybe

Clinton 47%
Rand Paul 43%
Ventura 10%
Geenie 2%
LP 0.3%

It's going to Romney as the Rep candidate because he will win this Nov. Polling companies already have in back in the lead over Obama. Latest 48 to 45. The anti-Obama vote is huge out there in which only 40% believe he should be re-elected.

Regardless, I can see an Indy winning in 2016. Levin has come out and said if Romney disappoints, there will be a third party. Then Ingraham along with Sarah Palin has come out in support of a new third party if Romney loses.

A third party is coming either way people. Embrace it. It can be ours if we get to work. Unless you want to take over a dying party called the GOP that no one wants to really be a part of.
 
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Hey, if you don't want to support Rand or Hilary Clinton - Jesse Ventura is your guy in 2016.

I like Jesse too, but he won't have a chance unless he starts taking himself seriously.

Still, it's a nice safety valve for those not wanting to get on the Rand train. Now you don't have to worry about Jesse Benton kicking you off.


The Rand Paul train hasn't even taken off. And you cannot be so sure that Jesse Benton will not be the conductor, if it ever comes to fruition.
 
Jesse Ventura suggests US may be behind Middle East violence
Published: 12:48 AM 09/15/2012

By Jamie Weinstein

NEW YORK — Former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura, an avid and prolific conspiracist, says it’s possible the U.S. government is intentionally inflaming the current turmoil in the Middle East.

“Who knows what caused it? Let’s remember the CIA’s job is to go out and create wars,” Ventura told The Daily Caller during an extensive interview.

Pressed on whether he really believes the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency orchestrated the attacks on America’s embassies in the Middle East, Ventura said, “I have no idea, but I don’t trust my government if that’s what you’re asking me. They’ve lied to me too many times recently.”

Ventura, author most recently of “DemoCRIPS and ReBLOODlicans: No More Gangs in Government,” listed a number of incidents in which he believes the government lied to the American people.

“How do I believe them when all that comes out of there are, lies, lies and more lies?” he asked. “Their credibility is zero with me now. I can’t tell you what caused this stuff. Who knows what underlying is going on?”

Ventura lamented what he sees as American meddling around the world.

“Well, I think us mingling in all these countries’ affairs — I mean, we have military bases in what, 160 countries throughout the world? That’s an empire,” he said.

Whatever the cause of the turmoil, Ventura argued that the U.S. should leave the Middle East entirely and end all foreign aid. When asked if he meant that we should leave all embassies around the world, he quickly responded, “yep,” although he later clarified that he thinks we should only abandon embassies in countries “where we’re not wanted.”

At no time did he offer any condemnation of the perpetrators of the attack or blame them for their savagery.

The Daily Caller will publish more of this extensive interview with Ventura next week.

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Jesse is very observant and may be on to something. I just want to throw this tidbit out there...

Producer Of Anti-Islam Film Was Fed Snitch


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/investigation/nakoula-cooperation-756920

SEPTEMBER 14--In remarks stressing that the U.S. government had “absolutely nothing to do with” the anti-Islam film that has touched off violence in the Middle East, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton yesterday sought to quash Arab concerns that the “disgusting and reprehensible” movie was somehow produced or condoned by American officials.

However, Clinton’s attempt to distance the U.S. from “Innocence of Muslims”--and, by extension, its felonious producer--may be complicated by the revelation that Nakoula Basseley Nakoula became a government informant after his 2009 arrest for bank fraud, The Smoking Gun has learned.

Though many key documents from the U.S. District Court case remain sealed, a June 2010 sentencing transcript provides an account of Nakoula’s cooperation with federal investigators in Los Angeles (and how his prison sentence was reduced as a result).


READ MORE
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/investigation/nakoula-cooperation-756920
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/nakoula-transcript?page=0
 
When Ventura was governor, he was better than average, but not in the league of what Rand Paul is doing in the Senate right now.
 
A third party candidate may get even more traction next election especially if the world changes a lot for the worse. Its hard to imagine Jesse Ventura being that person though. He would get a fraction of Ron Paul voters, but he is certainly not a libertarian, so most of his support would have to come from somewhere else.
 
He supports socialized healthcare. No thanks.


*SIGH*

Jesse isn't perfect. He has changed his mind on a lot of issues even after he was Governor. What I like about Jesse is he is open-minded enough to research things and make the changes in his stance. He used to believe Global Warming propaganda, he has changed his tune since researching and talking to experts.

Not to mention, he comes from a military family, his mother, father, brother were all veterans...veterans are on socialized healthcare. That is where I think he gets his thinking from.
 
One thing is almost certain. If Romney wins in 2012, Rand Paul can't run until 2020. That means Jesse Ventura and/or Ron Paul running on the LP line would be the only likely national liberty candidate options, if there is going to be any opposition to the GOP/Dem paradigm. I would be happy with either, or with a Paul/Ventura or Ventura/Paul 3rd party ticket.
 
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One thing is almost certain. If Romney wins in 2012, Rand Paul can't run until 2020. That means Jesse Ventura and/or Ron Paul running on the LP would be the only likely national liberty candidate options, if there is going to be any to the GOP/Dem paradigm. I would be happy with either, or with a Paul/Ventura or Ventura/Paul 3rd party ticket.


Absolutely! What better way to muck-up the waters, eh? Jesse putting the establishment in their place, and Dr. Paul waking people up with his message. That's a win/win!
 
[Ventura] would get a fraction of Ron Paul voters, but he is certainly not a libertarian, so most of his support would have to come from somewhere else.

But exactly the same thing is true for any would-be libertarian candidate: most of his/her support would have to come from somewhere else.
 
But exactly the same thing is true for any would-be libertarian candidate: most of his/her support would have to come from somewhere else.

Most of GJs support is from libertarians and Ron Paul voters.

I just assumed everyone gets that Ventura won't win. The question is does he get less than 1% or does he get more? To me getting traction would be 5-10% of the vote nationally and its hard to see where that kind of support would come from. He might get a third of Ron Paul's supporters which would put him in the 2-3% range. If things get particularly terrible during the next 4 years maybe he gets 5% more of just really fed up people. I just don't see him being anymore than a niche candidate.
 
Who Rand endorsed. :(

As in all endorsements, it never means you agree with everything they say or believe in. Rand does not support state run health care in Kentucky, nor at the federal level.

Also, generally speaking, endorsements by one member of a party to another member of the same party mean absolutely nothing [a rats a**] in general elections.
 
We all must get behind Ventura if he runs -- while I disagree with him on abortion, gay marriage, and healthcare, he's anti-war, anti-fed, pro-free markets, pro-gun and actually has the balls to call out the United Nations (or NWO, w/e you want to call it) for their crimes against humanity. While I do realize the establishment will eat him alive regarding his 9/11 stance (which I guarantee you Ron Paul agrees privately), he can still continue to push Ron Paul's fiscal conservative platform that brought us all together in the first place. Also, getting Dr. Ron Paul's endorsement must be made a HIGH priority. Without his followers, we stand no chance getting our liberty platform in the debates. On a final note, we MUST NOT allow social policy to divide us any longer. There is something much greater at stake right now, our economy, without an economy, we have no country, and without a country, we will be but another failed empire.
 
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We all must get behind Ventura if he runs -- while I disagree with him on abortion, gay marriage, and healthcare, he's anti-war, anti-fed, pro-free markets, pro-gun and actually has the balls to call out the United Nations (or NWO, w/e you want to call it) for their crimes against humanity. While I do realize the establishment will eat him alive regarding his 9/11 stance (which I guarantee you Ron Paul agrees privately), he can still continue to push Ron Paul's fiscal conservative platform that brought us all together in the first place. Also, getting Dr. Ron Paul's endorsement must be made a HIGH priority. Without his followers, we stand no chance getting our liberty platform in the debates. On a final note, we MUST NOT allow social policy to divide us any longer. There is something much greater at stake right now, our economy, without an economy, we have no country, and without a country, we will be but another failed empire.

I agree with this, people are too often looking for perfection or the next Ron Paul. We need to face it, there will never be another Ron Paul and we will never all be in 100% agreement with those running for office. While Ventura is not perfect, there are many good things there that very few other politicians have. He is a man that works for our freedom and has a healthy distrust of our government. One thing he brings to the table is that he is a well known figure. You see the polls where 2/3 of the people don't even have a clue who any 3rd party candidate is, but with someone like Ventura he has much more name value.
 
Most of GJs support is from libertarians and Ron Paul voters.

True. Which is why GJ will do very poorly in November: the great majority of his support comes from a very small minority of voters.

(This is not a disparagement of GJ in particular - it has always been true of any LP or third-party POTUS candidate, and will continue to be true for the foreseeable future.)

That was my previous point. In order to crack the less-than-one-percent "barrier," you've got to have the support of more than just libertarians & (hard core) Ron Paul voters.

I just assumed everyone gets that Ventura won't win. The question is does he get less than 1% or does he get more?

He'll lose, of course. But he could very well get significantly more than 1%. His positions seem to be a "grab-bag" of things, many of which appeal to - but are not limited to - libertarians.

It's that "but are not limited to" bit that will be the deciding factor in just how much support he ends up getting.
 
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