Jersey beach smoking ban ridiculous

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

If one had the ability to choose between the inconveniences of Too Little Freedom, or the burdens of Too Much Freedom, I would choose the problems that result from Too Much Freedom.

Once Smoking is made completely illegal (you all know it IS coming), then they WILL go after Body Odor, offensive Perfume, Colognes, people with stinky feet, limburger cheese, people that smell like wet dog after bathing their dogs, and everything that anyone deems offensive.

Olfactory Tyranny by any other name still smells like shit to me.

People should be able to do whatever they want to their bodies, but not to others. If I pollute your source of air or water, I'm infringing on your rights. It works the other way around. If I went around sprinkling microscopic amounts of arsenic and tar into people's drinks at public places, you'd think I was a psychopath. Doing it to their immediate air is no different.

 

[acptulsa]

And still you drive right by me, spewing measurable amounts of deadly toxins as I bicycle.

Yes, living in civilization with the terrible inconvenience of other people around really, really sucks. Especially if you just happen to be a self-centered whining paranoiac.

Throw yourself in the woods. Nice pine scent out there. Just don't get too testy with the bears for shitting everywhere. Trust me on this.

You want to make a mountain out of a molehill. Fine. I'll make a mountain out of a mountain. Park your damned car. You say I don't need to smoke. I say you don't need to drive. You say the nanny state is on your side. I say personal transportation is their next target. Standoff. You say this new awakening to the horrors of one little batch of leaves smoldering is here now. I say it's just a stepping stone to a ban of your automobile. Enjoy paving the way to your own inconvenience and loss of liberty. Give them an inch and watch them take a mile--from you.

'Everybody is running around in circles, announcing that somebody's pinched their liberty. Now the greatest aid that I know of that anyone could give the world today would be a correct definition of "liberty". What might be one class's liberty might be another class's poison. I guess absolute liberty couldn't mean anything but that anybody can do anything they want to, any time they want to. Well, any half-wit can tell you that wouldn't work. So the question arises, "How much liberty can I get away with?"

'Well, you can get no more liberty than you give. That's my definition, but you got perfect liberty to work out your own.'--Will Rogers

 

[DamianTV]

People should be able to do whatever they want to their bodies, but not to others. If I pollute your source of air or water, I'm infringing on your rights. It works the other way around. If I went around sprinkling microscopic amounts of arsenic and tar into people's drinks at public places, you'd think I was a psychopath. Doing it to their immediate air is no different.

Alright, lets cut the crap. Do you want Smoking to be made completely illegal or not? Do you want people to be throw in prison, as you said, for what they do to their own bodies, or do you not? Do you want people to be fined for Smoking, regardless of circumstance, or do you not?

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Alright, lets cut the crap. Do you want Smoking to be made completely illegal or not? Do you want people to be throw in prison, as you said, for what they do to their own bodies, or do you not? Do you want people to be fined for Smoking, regardless of circumstance, or do you not?

I'm just completely dumbfounded at this point. In one ear, out the other. How many times do I have to repeat myself? No, don't answer that.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Wow, what a pansy society we've become.

Guess I should bitch because I go into a public building and have to bear the ice cold air conditioning because fat ass American employees might actually--gasp!--sweat on the job. Maybe I should be the complainer about getting sick or even dying from pneumonia because the ice cold air is in my face.

Then, I have to talk with gun popping Big Bertha, as the stench from her "perfume" fills my nostrils. Maybe I should complain about asthmatic symptoms or some shit because Bertha has to cover up the pizza ooze sweat coming from her obese pores.

On top of that--I wait for my turn in the public building and am subjected to a barrage of peanut butter odor. I look up and see a large family all eating peanut butter candy bars from the vending machine. Well, of course, my allergies kick in from the actual smell or maybe it's some crazy psychological trigger. Maybe I should demand the public building drop those peanut candies from their vending machine. It is, after all, my right not to have to even smell that stuff.

 

[tod evans]

The programing is so deeply entrenched in some that short of forcibly excising it with hammer and chisel they can see no correlation between the immense amount of toxins they imbue the environment with for personal pleasure or convenience and a person who smokes.

This social programing and the psychology behind it is the root cause of big government...

 

[osan]

How do you argue with [the] insane?

You don't.

You beat them with iron bars when their insanity threatens your freedoms.

 

[osan]

freedom=/=anarchy

Actually, it does.

You apparently have a fundamentally flawed understanding of "anarchy".

 

[Suzanimal]

Me personally, I can't stand people with BO.

I mean, their smell is obnoxious. They come stand close to me, smelling of ripe ass, and what am I to do?

I'll vote for your law if you vote for mine.

(just an illustration on what is wrong with this world)

LOL.....ban teenage boys.

Is their BO full of dangerous toxins?

Yes, the smell has permeated the walls in my teen boys rooms. I can't get it out, nothing can kill that stench. Teen spirit is highly toxic, my eyes water, I get dizzy and I feel like vomiting. It doesn't seem to bother the men in my house, I think they have built up a natural immunity to the stench.

I used to smoke and still do if I'm drinking around other smokers. (Peer pressure:o) I think cigarettes stink but if someone's smoke is bothering me, I just move away from them. It really is that simple.

I was at the beach a few weeks ago and there were people smoking right next to us, I couldn't smell it at all. My youngest son HATES the smell and he didn't even complain. I really don't see how smoking at the beach could be an issue, it's so windy and if you're worried about toxins, keep in mind, fish die in that water.

 

[Occam's Banana]

This thread sucks balls .

Well ... at least it doesn't smoke balls ...

(But I wonder - if it did, what would be done with the butts ... ? )

 

[Anti Federalist]

Is their BO full of dangerous toxins?

We've already determined that their farts are.

 

[Anti Federalist]

LOL.....ban teenage boys.

Yes, the smell has permeated the walls in my teen boys rooms. I can't get it out, nothing can kill that stench. Teen spirit is highly toxic, my eyes water, I get dizzy and I feel like vomiting. It doesn't seem to bother the men in my house, I think they have built up a natural immunity to the stench.

Yikes...tell those boys to get in the rain locker!

Wash your asses.

Use soap!

 

[DamianTV]

I'm just completely dumbfounded at this point. In one ear, out the other. How many times do I have to repeat myself? No, don't answer that.

Then it is time for you to choose:

A: Too much freedom, where smokers are annoying
B: Too little freedom, where smokers are in prisons

Get off the fence and pick one.
(not attempting to be insulting or demeaning, so please dont take it as such)

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

They come stand close to me, smelling of ripe ass, and what am I to do?

Time for a Cool-story-bro.


So I just finish taking a leak at work. In comes my co-worker, heading to the stall to take a dump. He's a nice guy of about 400 lbs, give or take few baby walruses. He starts telling me this work story when he rips the greasiest, loudest, and longest mother fucker this side of Oprah the Fat. He is totally oblivious though, continuing with his story.

That bathroom was almost the size of a football field, but it did not take long before the cloud enveloped my very being. I was actually lucky to escape that bathroom with everything intact, including a nose that did not dissolve from the chemical assault.

Next time, I am not going to take this. If this EVER happens again, then I am going to my handy government official and demand to be compensated for having my both my proboscis and constitutional rights violated.

 

[osan]

Is their BO full of dangerous toxins?

Good grief... you could at least have the decency to admit you are a progressive statist, join the Democrat party, and dispense with your pretensions of wanting freedom.

 

[VoluntaryAmerican]

This ban should be left up to the communities not the state.

 

[oyarde]

This ban should be left up to the communities not the state.

Probably , nearly all property should be private and business owners /property owners set what is or not desired. If there is a public beach , etc , that would be tax funded.

 

[specsaregood]

People should be able to do whatever they want to their bodies, but not to others. If I pollute your source of air or water, I'm infringing on your rights. It works the other way around. If I went around sprinkling microscopic amounts of arsenic and tar into people's drinks at public places, you'd think I was a psychopath. Doing it to their immediate air is no different.

I expect you will support my legislation that will ban anybody that is unvaccinated from going to the beach as well. Afterall, somebody contaminated with measles is potentially more dangerous than somebody that has a cigarette near you. I hope you got that 2nd shot, and are prepared to show your vaccination record when buying your beach tag.

ref:

My university told me I am missing my second 'measles' shot. If I refuse, they will not let me continue taking classes my next semester. What should I tell them? I believe I shouldn't be coerced into injecting myself with a vaccine to get an education. I haven't taken any vaccines for about a decade and I haven't been sick, not once. What should I tell them?

 

[oyarde]

I expect you will support my legislation that will ban anybody that is unvaccinated from going to the beach as well. Afterall, somebody contaminated with measles is potentially more dangerous than somebody that has a cigarette near you. I hope you got that 2nd shot, and are prepared to show your vaccination record when buying your beach tag.

ref:

Yeah , all measle ridden mundanes need to stay the hell away from me while I enjoy my beer and smoke, lol

 

[libertyjam]

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