JD Vance’s alleged drag queen photo surfaces; campaign won’t confirm or deny
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LibertyEagle
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Some of you are being ridiculous. It looks like a college party. When I was in High School a million years ago, some of the football team dressed up as cheerleaders for a school skit. It was hilarious and no one thought they did it because they liked dressing as women.
That is quite different than someone parading as a woman down Main Street on Pride day, or a man going to their job dressed and made up as a woman on an ongoing basis, or someone who believes and expects you to address them as a sex other than the one they were born as.
Come on, guys. You know the difference.
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Yeah, that's the "narrative".
"OMG! He's wearing a dress! It's exactly like children going to sexually suggestive drag shows, and transing kids! There is no difference!"
From a personal voluntary choice perspective, aka accountability for own actions mixed in with blatant hypocrisy, no it's not different. From my eta in my first post on thread:
"eta: the best comments around the MAGAsphere are the confessions that they, too, dressed up as women for various hazing, school activities, Halloweens, etc, in order to excuse Vance's. All were voluntary, though, yes? But hey, it's different when the MAGAsphere did/does it."
It's amazing how so many voluntarily wore the dress. Revelation, indeed.
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Oh, so the Negative Rep didn't have anything to do with me putting green eye liner on, or lipstick, to go trick-or-treating, but rather because I'm not for your nationalist agenda?
Got it
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Oh, so the Negative Rep didn't have anything to do with me putting green eye liner on, or lipstick, to go trick-or-treating, but rather because I'm not for your nationalist agenda?
Got it
When you lack an argument, you start putting words in others’ mouths. Is this just your own personal way of operating or is it larger than that? Because it surely won’t work to get people to listen to you.
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Moi???
Well, as long as it wasn't the Reese's Cups that bothered you
You and [MENTION=65299]Swordsmyth[/MENTION] have a tendency to put words into my mouth, but every time I clarify and provide information you seem to avoid further discussion and/or admittance. I understand, that's what "nationalism" does to some people, just like communism
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Hell, we had pictures of Hunter Biden with what looked like 8 year olds. No one cared about that.
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I've always said that Bernstein should have stuck to composing which he excelled at and leave the real job of conducting to Pierre Boulez, among others ;-)
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Perhaps you need to seek out this "anti-dress" strawman that you have been arguing with?
I am not aware of anyone who made a huge issue out of someone wearing a dress. What people have a problem with is grooming and indoctrinating children, sexually suggestive drag shows for children, and trans medical procedures for children.
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Of course they didn't.
For the same reason we're dismissing this photo, unless more surfaces.
MuH REAsOnS.
The problem there is reasons are subjective, some are valid and some are not.
Men have been dressing in women's clothing for comic effect for thousands of years. It's a good gag for Halloween or a costume party or the theater.
That appears to be what this is.
Valid reason. (of course you can mock and make fun of that)
Weirdosexuals have hijacked that tradition to dress seductively as women and cruise for young boys.
Because love is love don't ya know?
Not a valid reason.
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Yeah, that's the "narrative".
"OMG! He's wearing a dress! It's exactly like children going to sexually suggestive drag shows, and transing kids! There is no difference!"
Just to be clear this is what people are concerned about:
In 2018 when drag shows were just for adults, nobody GAF. I know I didn't. I was Uber driving in Nashville TN and in June it was Rainbow City. I didn't care because the gays tip good and didn't bother anybody. But then, sometime post the pandemic, all of these stories started popping up with CHILDREN being involved in this stuff. Like this:
No. I don't think children should dance for tips at a bar. I would say the same thing if the bar was heterosexual. I canceled my Netflix account when they showed the Cuties documentary which was "cis-gender" pre-pubescent girls dancing like they were strippers. That's the issue. If JD Vance dressed up like that and went to a local library to interact with little children then forget him. (I don't really care for him or Trump anyway). But is this was what he wore to an adult party, then frankly I don't care.
You know what's funny? Democrat Joe Biden agrees with Ron Desantis on this! Seriously, when a transwoman flashed her breasts at the Whitehouse lawn at a Pride even, Joe Biden had her banned from the Whitehouse because, get this, what she did was not "family appropriate."
So don't even TRY to pretend this is somehow a "Republican" thing. Most Democrats, if you sat down and asked them "Are you okay with a 4 year old being at a topless bar" would say "Absolutely not!" If you followed up with the question "Would you be okay with a 4 year old being at a topless bar if the dancers were all transwomen?" Most would say "Absolutely not!" But if you came at the question the other way "Should trans performers be kept away from children?" they would probably say no to that as well and "Let the parents make the choice" but they would also have a hard time deciding just how explicit the trans performance would have to be before they would say "No."
This isn't about what adult people do. As an adult I've been to topless bars. As a child I would probably have snuck into one if I could have. But I don't think they should be open to children.
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Moi???
Well, as long as it wasn't the Reese's Cups that bothered you
You and [MENTION=65299]Swordsmyth[/MENTION] have a tendency to put words into my mouth, but every time I clarify and provide information you seem to avoid further discussion and/or admittance. I understand, that's what "nationalism" does to some people, just like communism
You should know, because you are supporting much of what the globalists are using to destroy the United States. Hope it is worth it to you.
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I don't see him supporting much of anything but education in the facts.
But I see people accusing him of supporting whatever whenever someone finds those facts disappointing. Or embarrassing.
He points out Harris is an idiot, he gets called MAGA. He points out Trump set the currency on fire to finance a death jab, he gets called a Demoncrat. We're used to that, but I for one am surprised to see so much of it here, fourteen years in.
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And how is it, that I support the global-ists?
Unless you're confusing my position that I should have the right to trade/buy/sell/travel globally without government intervention? Which also requires trying to get big-government enablers like you off of my back.
Other than that, I am clueless as to what you are even talking about.
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