Japanese nuclear plant may only have a few hours....

Everyone (especially those on west coast &/or hawaii) ought to begin taking potassium iodide or at least a little iodine now. to prevent any exposure to radiation that might come across the ocean. You can pick up tinctue of iodine at any drug store for a couple of bucks. Beside you might find that your system is already iodine deficent. :)
 
This says NISA presumes a meltdown CAUSED the explosion.

http://e.nikkei.com/e/fr/tnks/Nni20110312D12JFF03.htm

Meltdown Caused Nuke Plant Explosion: Safety Body

TOKYO (Nikkei)--The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA) said Saturday afternoon the explosion at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant
could only have been caused by a meltdown of the reactor core.

The same day, Tokyo Electric Power Co. (9501), which runs the plant,
began to flood the damaged reactor with seawater to cool it down,
resorting to measures that could rust the reactor and force the utility to scrap it.

Cesium and iodine, by-products of nuclear fission, were detected around the plant,
which would make the explosion the worst accident in the roughly 50-year history of Japanese nuclear power generation.

An explosion was heard near the plant's No. 1 reactor about 3:30 p.m.
and plumes of white smoke went up 10 minutes later.
The ceiling of the building housing the reactor collapsed,
according to information obtained by Fukushima prefectural authorities.

At a news conference Saturday night, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano
discounted the possibility of a significant leak of radioactive material from the accident. "
The walls of the building containing the reactor were destroyed,
meaning that the metal container encasing the reactor did not explode," Edano said.

The amount of radiation detected inside the plant after 4:00 p.m.
slightly exceeded the dose people can safely receive in a year,
according to information obtained by the Fukushima prefectural government.

The No. 1 reactor shut down automatically soon after a massive earthquake hit the area Friday,
but its emergency core cooling system failed to cool the reactor's core sufficiently.

NISA is affiliated with the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry.
 
The might as well be affiliated with the ministry of truth.

This reminds me of Katrina. After the hurricane, the newscasters were reporting on the aftermath of the hurricane, and one of them casually mentioned that there was a report of a crack in a levy before moving back to the cache of dramatic video.

I stayed glued to the TV for 2 more hours, and they didn't mention it again. I finally went to bed, and when I woke up the city was underwater.

The newsreaders don't have a clue, and the government is trying to avoid panic while averting a disaster. Nobody knows what the situation really is.
 
This says NISA presumes a meltdown CAUSED the explosion.

http://e.nikkei.com/e/fr/tnks/Nni20110312D12JFF03.htm

That's the only way it can happen. Hydrogen is produced from the oxidation of the zirconium cladding on the fuel rods, which usually happens around the time of fuel melting (possibly a little before, but mostly over 1800F)

On a side note, a hydrogen deflagration DID occur at 3 Mile Island, but the containment held during the pressure spike (but that was a PWR so it did not have the extra inner containment that BWR's have).
 
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The might as well be affiliated with the ministry of truth.

This reminds me of Katrina. After the hurricane, the newscasters were reporting on the aftermath of the hurricane, and one of them casually mentioned that there was a report of a crack in a levy before moving back to the cache of dramatic video.

I stayed glued to the TV for 2 more hours, and they didn't mention it again. I finally went to bed, and when I woke up the city was underwater.

The newsreaders don't have a clue, and the government is trying to avoid panic while averting a disaster. Nobody knows what the situation really is.

No question about it. I saw a tweet that said people were feeling ill and that something was wrong with one of the other reactors. Who knows what is going on. All I can say is that my BS detector is going off big time, and I think something big either happened or is about to happen.
 
Gotta love drudge:

Building housing Fukushima I reactor blows up...
VIDEO...
REUTERS: Radiation leaking, pressure in core unstable...
Gov't: Levels are low...
JIJI: Levels 1,000 times normal...
Caesium detected; points to nuke fuel melt...
Evacuation widened to 20 km...
'No immediate health hazard,' officials say -- while evacuating 45,000...
Three workers near plant suffer radiation exposure...
IAEA: Japan preparing to hand out iodine near nuke plants...
NEW PLAN: Fill leaking reactor with sea water...
 
I guess nothing short of Armageddon will get the world out of depression.
 
Situation Update No. 28
On 12.03.2011 at 19:11 GMT+2

As many as 10,000 people have been reported missing in a northern Japanese town as a strong aftershock hit near a nuclear plant in Fukushima. Three people evacuated from the area near the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant were exposed to radiation. The three were randomly chosen for examination out of about 90 bedridden patients moved from the hospital in the town of Futaba-machi. The patients had waited for rescuers outside a school, spending a long time outside and then being moved by helicopter at the time when an explosion hit the aging plant. Up to 10,000 residents in the port town of Minamisanriku in the Miyagi prefecture - more than half of the population - were unaccounted for, highlighting the unfolding scale of the disaster.

Local authorities are trying to find their whereabouts with the help of soldiers. Authorities confirmed that around 7500 people were evacuated to 25 shelters after the quake, but they were unable to contact the other 10,000. "Our monitoring operations have been hampered with debris and mud," an official said. "Even helicopters can't approach some of the shelters. I'm afraid that it will take more time to finish our confirmation procedures." An aftershock with a magnitude of 6.4 hit near the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant, where nuclear officials earlier confirmed a radiation leak and doubled the evacuation zone around the crippled reactor. Prime Minister Naoto Kan said Friday's 8.9-magnitude earthquake and 10-metre tsunami was an "unprecedented national disaster" and appealed for calm as fears grew amid the atomic emergency.

"By taking firm measures, we will do our best not to have even a single person suffer from health problems," he said. "From the bottom of my heart, I would like everybody to listen to the government and to media reports and to act calmly." Dramatic TV footage showed the blast at the nuclear plant ripping through the coastal facility, sending plumes of smoke billowing high into the air. The operator of the plant said the reactor container was not damaged despite the large explosion, Japan's chief cabinet secretary Yukio Edano told a TV briefing, adding that radiation levels fell after the blast. "The nuclear reactor is surrounded by a steel reactor container, which is then surrounded by a concrete building. The concrete building collapsed. We found out that the reactor container inside didn't explode," Mr Edano said. Edano said the explosion was caused by hydrogen, generated by the falling level of cooling water, pouring into space between the building and container and exploding when it mixed with oxygen.

"We've confirmed that the reactor container was not damaged … As such there was no large amount of radiation leakage outside," he said. "We've decided to fill the reactor container with sea water …. By doing this, we will use boric acid to prevent criticality," he said, adding it would take five to 10 hours to fill the reactor. The evacuation radius around the plant was doubled to 20km. Radioactivity at the plant, which is 250km north of capital Tokyo, was 20 times over the normal level, and hourly radiation matched the allowable annual dose. Several workers were reported to be injured in the explosion - one seriously - and smoke was seen billowing out of the plant. Eyewitnesses reported strong shaking at the plant shortly before the blast.

TV channels warned nearby residents to stay indoors, turn off air-conditioners and not to drink tap water. People going outside were told to avoid exposing their skin and to cover their faces with masks and wet towels. They were also provided with iodine. The plant's sister plant, Fukushima No. 2, was also experiencing cooling problems. . Entire towns remain underwater, buildings have been destroyed, landslides have wiped away huge swathes of the landscape - carrying houses with them - and fires were still burning in the middle of the water, fueled by leaking oil.

Japanese troops found 300 to 400 bodies in the coastal city of Rikuzentakata, a small city around 113km to the north of Sendai, and around 65km north of Minamisanriku. The death toll was rising throughout Saturday with the number of people dead or missing was feared to be above 1700 - a figure that is sure to rocket. The amazing power of the quake was made clear by the US Geological Survey (USGS), which revealed the main island had shifted 2.4 metres and shifted the Earth on its axis. Japan mobilized 50,000 military and other rescue personnel to spearhead the Herculean rescue and recovery effort and reached out to countries including Britain for assistance. Four trains remained unaccounted for, Kyodo reported, after they were caught in the tsunami while running in a coastal area of Miyagi and Iwate prefectures. It is not known how many people were aboard. More than five million homes remain without power and the number of partially or completely destroyed buildings has reached 3400. More than 215,000 people were in emergency shelters and rescue officials struggled to access most of the tsunami-hit areas.


http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/woalert_read.php?cid=29849
 
This is a good article on the situation:

http://blogs.nature.com/news/thegreatbeyond/2011/03/view_from_tokyo_meltdown_and_p.html

At 8:20, they started pouring in seawater but an aftershock forced it to stop at 10:15. It doesn’t seem to be filling the tank, leading to fears that there is a leak and the reactor will never be properly cooled. Edano confirmed that the plant had been emitting 1,015 μSv per hour—about the same as one would be allowed for one year—before the explosion, but he said large amounts of radiation were not being reported now. There are, however, reports that 190 people are affected by radiation.

Looks like were no where near done with this..... also remember this is only one of five reactors total having issues.
 
I think something BIG has happened or is YET to happen. START Taking/Ordering/Obtaining your Potassium Iodide NOW! or atleast tincture of iodine!:eek:
 
I think something BIG has happened or is YET to happen. START Taking/Ordering/Obtaining your Potassium Iodide NOW! or atleast tincture of iodine!:eek:

We're both in Florida. The worst case scenario from what I have read is that people east of the Rocky Mountains should be OK and that the biggest concern would be food contamination. Correct me if I'm wrong. But I have a very uneasy feeling as well.
 
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...23030511478.html?mod=WSJ_WSJ_News_BlogsModule

Japan Fills Damaged Reactor With Seawater

TOKYO—The Japanese government said Saturday that it has begun filling a nuclear reactor container vessel at the Fukushima Daiichi plant with seawater, after a concrete structure housing the vessel collapsed after an explosion that followed Friday's earthquake and tsunami.

"I think we can get this under control" through the addition of the seawater, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano, the government's top spokesman, said at a news conference. He said the explosion, which was caused by hydrogen gas coming into contact with oxygen, only destroyed the outermost structure and didn't damage the container vessel.

Mr. Edano said no great amount of radiation leaked after the explosion.
...
Asked about the impact of radiation at eight times higher than normal levels, Naoto Sekimura, a professor of quantum engineering at Tokyo University, said on national broadcaster NHK, "This is a minuscule amount. This is not going to have negative impact on the human body."

Inside the control room at Unit 1, the amount of radiation on Saturday reached around 1,000 times normal, the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said, according to Kyodo. Attempts to fix the problem at the plant—a buildup of heat and pressure inside the reactor—were going more slowly than planned, according to the government's nuclear agency, quoted by the NHK broadcaster.

Radiation levels aren't supposed to rise in a control room, which is designed to allow operators to continue working during emergencies and is equipped with filtration systems and other design features to protect workers from radiation exposure. Nevertheless, experts said that a level that is 1,000 times normal probably isn't immediately harmful.
...
Later on Saturday, Tokyo Electric said another nuclear-power plant nearby, Fukushima Daini, was experiencing rises of pressure inside its four reactors.
...
While officials were still scrambling to deal with the Fukushima reactor problem, at least two strong earthquakes hit near Japan's—and one of the world's—largest nuclear reactors early Saturday.

The strength of one of the two quakes on the other side of the Japan Sea coast measured 5 on the Japanese scale in Kashiwazaki City in Niigata prefecture, home to another large nuclear power plant. According to NHK, the national broadcaster, the quakes didn't affect the operations of the plant where four reactors are in operation.
...
Meanwhile, the three reactors at Tohoku Electric Power Co.'s Onagawa plant in Miyagi, near the epicenter of the quake, also shut down automatically. A few hours later, the company said that it observed smoke coming from the building housing the No. 1 reactor at the plant. The company said it is still checking the safety of the reactor, but said there has been no leakage of radioactive substances reported.
...
A State Department spokeswoman said late Friday afternoon that, contrary to remarks made by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton earlier in the day, the U.S. Air Force didn't provide assistance to the Japanese nuclear power plant stricken by the quake.

"I'm told that ultimately the Japanese government handled the situation on its own," said Julie Reside, a State Department spokeswoman.
...
 
First thing I did this morning upon waking & reading about nuclear fallout is grab a bottle of iodine & spread some on me, kid, & kids friends in my house with some iodine on their tummys! (me personally ive been doomed since i was a gleam in the ole mans eye; he was involved in TWO atomic bomb testings years ago; still has enough radiation in him to be considered a GlowWorm!)
 
Oh, shit's going down. But I have no idea as to the time scale of it, just like the rest of the world.

There are earthquakes and volcanoes acting up all around the pacific plate, so that sucker may be in for some serious movement again.

It's weird, though, because there is no talk of the second set of reactors on that website I posted, nor the second reactor at the first site. There were two icons concerning both reactor sites yesterday, and only one today, the one that's blown.
 
Who to believe?


Scientist warns of "Chernobyl-like" disaster (1:57)

http://www.reuters.com/article/video/idUSTRE72A0SS20110312?videoId=194714199

Or:

"No Chernobyl is possible at a light water reactor. Loss of coolant means a temperature rise, but it also will stop the reaction," Naoto Sekimura, a professor at the University of Tokyo, said.

"Even in the worst-case scenario, that would mean some radioactive leakage and equipment damage, but not an explosion. If venting is done carefully, there will be little leakage. Certainly not beyond the 3 km radius."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/12/us-japan-quake-idUSTRE72A0SS20110312

Strike against the Japanese professor.

Chernobyl was a light water reactor.


Using light water for cooling and graphite for moderation, it is possible to use natural uranium for fuel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBMK
 
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