Japanese nuclear plant may only have a few hours....

[DamianTV]

Please go ahead and eat as much as you possibly can.

...

So the paranoid, lunatic, nutjob conspiracy theorists were right again!

Perfectly safe for human consumption!

 

[PaulConventionWV]

This is ridiculous. If you have some stats to contradict the ones that say it's safe, then please present them. Anyone can find pictures of deformed fish. If there is evidence that the radiation is higher than they say, then please present it.

And by the way, please stop acting like everything the media ignores is automatically a conspiracy. There are many things the media ignores that actually aren't a problem. Just because the media doesn't tell you, doesn't mean they're keeping it a secret. Almost no one is talking about this except the most extreme news sources. There's no evidence of any cover-up because nobody's pushing this information that it needs to be covered up. The media isn't talking about how the moon is really made of cheese... must be a cover-up.

 

[Seraphim]

Ok let's forget stats for a moment as a picture paints a 1000 words (and a whole bunch of later incoming stats).

This is a picture of radio active seawater taken by the US NAVY/U.S. State Department.

There are more of these you can easily find if you search the web.

This is ridiculous. If you have some stats to contradict the ones that say it's safe, then please present them. Anyone can find pictures of deformed fish. If there is evidence that the radiation is higher than they say, then please present it.

And by the way, please stop acting like everything the media ignores is automatically a conspiracy. There are many things the media ignores that actually aren't a problem. Just because the media doesn't tell you, doesn't mean they're keeping it a secret. Almost no one is talking about this except the most extreme news sources. There's no evidence of any cover-up because nobody's pushing this information that it needs to be covered up. The media isn't talking about how the moon is really made of cheese... must be a cover-up.

 

[Seraphim]

^^^^^ That is the radioactive blueprint from about 2 years ago. It has grown. Earthquakes and another tsunami have occurred since the meltdown - the area is constantly leaking radioactive waste. Do you realize the nuclear cores are sinking into the ground and sink further each day leaking nuclear waste into the water table and ocean?

TEPCO has admitted they lost some of the nuclear cores containing the radioactive waste.

DO NOT BUY PACIFIC FISH FROM THE NORTHERN HEMISPHERE.

If you do, I highly recommend you get a Geiger counter (as numerous pacific Asians have)...MANY fish are contaminated. Not all are. But in that nuclear waste hotzone...YA u bet anything in those waters is getting irradiated.

 

[Seraphim]

This thread should be renamed.

This Fukushima plant isn't "a few hours away..." from anything.

This is an ongoing nuclear waste leak that drips drips drips and flows into the water table and Pacific Ocean on a second by second basis.

 

[Zippyjuan]

^^^^^ That is the radioactive blueprint from about 2 years ago. It has grown. Earthquakes and another tsunami have occurred since the meltdown - the area is constantly leaking radioactive waste. Do you realize the nuclear cores are sinking into the ground and sink further each day leaking nuclear waste into the water table and ocean?

TEPCO has admitted they lost some of the nuclear cores containing the radioactive waste.

DO NOT BUY PACIFIC FISH FROM THE NORTHERN HEMISPHERE.

If you do, I highly recommend you get a Geiger counter (as numerous pacific Asians have)...MANY fish are contaminated. Not all are. But in that nuclear waste hotzone...YA u bet anything in those waters is getting irradiated.

How many radioactive fish have been caught and identified? How contaminated are they? Evidence please. From Wood's Hole which is very concerned about the health of the oceans: http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?pid=127297

Has Fukushima been responsible for the deaths of marine animals in the Pacific?

To date, there have been no reliable links made between radiation in the Pacific and mass die-offs of marine mammals, birds, fish, or invertebrates. Some of these die-offs have been attributed to viruses, warming water, and other changes to the marine environment that need to be addressed. If there were effects from radioactive contamination, we would expect to see the largest effects off Japan, not the West Coast of North America, and this has not been seen.

Is radiation exposure from the ocean and beach a concern?

I stood on the deck of a ship l2 miles from the Fukushima reactors in June 2011 and was about one-half mile away as recently as October 2015 and the radiation detectors I was carrying showed little or no increase above background levels. Even the samples I collected (water, sediment, plants, and animals) from these locations are safe to handle without any precautions. In fact, our biggest problem is blocking interference from background radiation in our samples so we can isolate the trace levels of cesium and other radionuclides that we know came from Fukushima.

On the West Coast of North America, radiation from the water, sediment, and biota is even less of a problem because of the distance from Japan and the dilution that occurs as the contaminants cross the Pacific. The greatest concern is for those who work on the site of the reactors because leaks from storage tanks could release water with high concentrations of contaminants.

Is it safe to eat seafood from the Pacific?

Except for the vicinity of the reactors, seafood and other products taken from the Pacific should be safe for human consumption. Radiation levels in seafood should continue to be monitored, of course, but radiation in the ocean will very quickly become diluted and is not of concern by the strict standards used in Japan beyond the region closest to Fukushima. The same is true of radiation carried by winds around the globe. However, crops and other vegetation near the reactor site (including grass that cows eat to produce milk) that receive fallout from the atmosphere build up radioactivity and can remain contaminated even if washed. When these foods are consumed, a person receives much of this dose internally, often a more severe pathway to receive radiation than by external exposure.

Lots more info at the link.

Earthquakes and another tsunami have occurred since the meltdown

That "tsunami" was a wave about one foot high.

If you do, I highly recommend you get a Geiger counter (as numerous pacific Asians have)...MANY fish are contaminated

Would it find anything notable?

I have a Geiger counter. Can I use it to detect radiation from Fukushima?

There are two basic types of radiation detectors—those that measure only the number of times radiation interacts with the instrument, and those that measure the energy level (in electron volts) of the particles or waves detected by the instrument. The Geiger-Mueller tube (Geiger counter) is perhaps the most widely known radiation detector and falls into the first category.

Geiger counters can measure beta particles and gamma rays (the detector window will block most alpha particles), but cannot distinguish between the two. These interactions, and the decay events that trigger them, are registered as counts or audible clicks. In general, a Geiger counter will always produce some clicks, often 20 to 40 per minute, as a result of natural sources of radioactivity around us at all times, including rocks, soil, buildings and cosmic particles. These background count rates vary widely depending upon local geology, altitude (higher at higher elevations), and even construction materials and building design (the accumulation of radon in basements is just one example). Detecting contamination from Japan above this background with a Geiger counter is only possible near the reactors and storage tanks at Fukushima, or in some of the more contaminated regions in Japan, as they are not particularly sensitive instruments.

In addition, Geiger counters cannot measure the energy level of the radiation being emitted, a very important factor in determining whether the source of radiation is manmade or natural. For example, the high count rates detected by a Geiger counter along a beach near San Francisco were not caused by cesium from Fukushima as originally reported, but rather caused by naturally occurring thorium-bearing minerals that are common and often elevated in some beach sands.

- See more at: http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?pid=127297#sthash.ZnFl96R4.dpuf

 

[Danke]

What da Fukashima's going on?

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Ok let's forget stats for a moment as a picture paints a 1000 words (and a whole bunch of later incoming stats).

This is a picture of radio active seawater taken by the US NAVY/U.S. State Department.

There are more of these you can easily find if you search the web.

Yeah, you know what that quote means, right? A picture is worth a thousand words just means pictures make people gossip. That's what you're doing, stirring up gossip with your stupid picture graphics. How about actual evidence?

 

[Zippyjuan]

Perfectly safe for human consumption!

The salmon picture is from a fish caught in Alaska- north of where the waters from Japan drift. Would not have been exposed to Fukushima radiation. They don't say where the shark is from but that it is from "somewhere in the Pacific Ocean".

Pacific Ocean currents:

 

[Zippyjuan]

http://phys.org/news/2016-07-pacific-ocean-fukushima.html

Pacific Ocean radiation back near normal after Fukushima: study
July 4, 2016

Radiation levels across the Pacific Ocean are rapidly returning to normal five years after a meltdown at the Fukushima nuclear plant spewed gases and liquids into the sea, a study showed Monday.

Japan shut down dozens of reactors after a magnitude 9.0 earthquake-generated tsunami on March 11, 2011 triggered one of the largest ever dumps of nuclear material into the world's oceans.

In the days following the quake and explosions at Fukushima, seawater meant to cool the nuclear reactors instead carried radioactive elements back into the Pacific, with currents dispersing it widely.

Five years on a review by the Scientific Committee on Oceanic Research, which brings together ocean experts from across the world, said radioactive material had been carried as far as the United States.

But after analysing data from 20 studies of radioactivity associated with the plant, it found radiation levels in the Pacific were rapidly returning to normal after being tens of millions of times higher than usual following the disaster.

"As an example, in 2011 about half of fish samples in coastal waters off Fukushima contained unsafe levels of radioactive material," said Pere Masque, who co-authored the review published by the Annual Review of Marine Science.

"However, by 2015 that number had dropped to less than one percent above the limit."

But the study also found that the seafloor and harbour near the Fukushima plant were still highly contaminated in the wake of the world's worst nuclear accident since Chernobyl in 1986.

"Monitoring of radioactivity levels and sea life in that area must continue," added Masque, a professor of environmental radiochemistry at the Edith Cowan University in Western Australia.

The research examined radioactive caesium levels measured off Japan's coast across the Pacific to North America.

 

[angelatc]

I try to stay out of these crap because it pains me to see how gullible so many of my fellow libertarians are. And it especially pains me to see so many people determined to spread misinformation. I already know 95% of you do not care if it's true as long as it supports your wordview, so you can skip the rest of this post.

For the other 5%, my husband is also concerned about the radiation in seafood. I showed him these pictures, and he got pissed. He says activists have been using these pictures to represent a myriad of environmental concerns long before Fukishima, and that the picture of the fish with bad lips has a parasite. The picture of the guy holding a fish came from something to do with an oil refinery.

So either radiation has traveled back in time, or the people using these sources are not reliable.

 

[angelatc]

Do your research, they screech.

http://www.cbc.ca/natureofthings/episodes/tipping-point

The documentary's climax shows how Professor Schindler's research findings, and the determination of Fort Chipewyan residents, led to change. In December 2010, a special scientific review by the high-level federal panel declared environmental monitoring standards in the oil sands to be seriously flawed.

 

[Superfluous Man]

I'm gonna save some of these fish pictures to show people and tell them they're from that BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico a few years back just to mess with them.

 

[Seraphim]

Yeah, you know what that quote means, right? A picture is worth a thousand words just means pictures make people gossip. That's what you're doing, stirring up gossip with your stupid picture graphics. How about actual evidence?

Right, ok. A massive radiation zone around Fukushima (that is growing) is just gossip and will have no impact on the Ocean and it's inhabitants.

Got it.

You realize we're talking about NUCLEAR RADIATION right?

All I did was post a picture from the US NAVY. Draw your own conclusions.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Right, ok. A massive radiation zone around Fukushima (that is growing) is just gossip and will have no impact on the Ocean and it's inhabitants.

Got it.

You realize we're talking about NUCLEAR RADIATION right?

All I did was post a picture from the US NAVY. Draw your own conclusions.

I was trying to find the original source of the image to see what it was actually showing but am not having any luck. Do you have a link by chance? I found another similar image being passed off as radiation and when I tracked it down what it was actually showing was likely wave height and paths from the earthquake tsunami. Thanks for looking!

As for your claim it is still growing- see my article about how radiation in the Pacific Ocean is basically back down to its normal background radiation levels.

 

[XNavyNuke]

All I did was post a picture from the US NAVY. Draw your own conclusions.

Bzzzt! Not a USN map, but thanks for playing.

The news media picked up the graphic from a consulting firm. Bright, sparkly colors seem to be as useful click bait seconded only by boobs in a halter top.

http://www.asrltd.com/japan/plume.php

XNN

 

[XNavyNuke]

I'm gonna save some of these fish pictures to show people and tell them they're from that BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico a few years back just to mess with them.

That's the way the game is played.
XNN

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Right, ok. A massive radiation zone around Fukushima (that is growing) is just gossip and will have no impact on the Ocean and it's inhabitants.

Got it.

Wow, it just makes you look so stupid when you say something completely reasonable in an obviously sarcastic way. YES, I DO think your "massive radiation zone" is just gossip until you provide evidence. Last time I checked, that was a completely reasonable thing to expect from someone making claims like you. I think you're well aware of the fact that graphics can LOOK scary without actually BEING scary, so excuse me if I'm not that impressed with the fact that it came from the US Navy (a government entity) and don't buy into it without some kind of factual basis.

And maybe it would help your claim to legitimacy if you stopped using pictures of contaminated fish from BEFORE the event, sunshine.

You realize we're talking about NUCLEAR RADIATION right?

All I did was post a picture from the US NAVY. Draw your own conclusions.

Oooh, scary. You're really giving the MSM a run for its money on the scare tactics. And of course the US Navy, I assume, is with you on this crusade against the MSM, right? Give me a fucking break.

 

[donnay]

“Despite concerns, there is no US government agency monitoring the spread of low levels of radiation from Fukushima along the West Coast and around the Hawaiian Islands—even though levels are expected to rise over coming years.”

http://www.ourradioactiveocean.org/

Radiation from Fukushima nuclear plant detected on west coast

By The Associated Press
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on December 08, 2016 at 3:55 PM

SALEM, Ore. (AP) -- Researchers say seawater samples taken from Tillamook Bay and Gold Beach indicate radiation from Japan's Fukushima nuclear disaster, but at extremely low levels not harmful to humans or the environment.

Citing the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, the Statesman Journal newspaper reports the samples were taken last winter and later analyzed.

Massive amounts of contaminated water were released from the crippled nuclear plant following a 9.0 magnitude earthquake and tsunami in March 2011.

Woods Hole chemical oceanographer Ken Buesseler runs a crowdfunded, citizen-science seawater sampling project that has tracked the radiation plume as it makes its way across the Pacific Ocean.

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Information from: Statesman Journal, http://www.statesmanjournal.com

 

[Zippyjuan]

Posted in thread already. Amounts one one thousandth of "safe" levels. Your article notes:

but at extremely low levels not harmful to humans or the environment.