January 8, 2012 NBC Debate - OFFICIAL Thread

It's hilarious how they keep saying that NH likes to choose darkhorses. (HINT: VOTE FOR HUNTSMAN)
 
"Say Huntsman gets past Paul. Because getting Paul out of the discussion would be healthy for the party, he's not going to be the nominee." -Chris Mathews.

Un.Fucking.Believable.
 
Criticize and Dialog are great. It removes the Coolaid factor and some good ideas and suggestions to pass around AND along to the campaign. It's always that 'suck up and never question', that results in missed opportunities and failures. Happens all the time in business... and we know governments and their staffs that just carry on to ruin.

+REP
How is Ron Paul handling Mitt Romney with mittens effective for the campaign? He is coming off as Romney's guard dog, taking on minor candidates, and letting that be his media focus, as opposed to reaching upward to Romney and Obama. I would love to see a shift in his campaign, and for him to at least attempt rising above the fray---so long as he remains with the GOP.

I am a long time Paul supporter. I know that most criticism does not play well here, to the extent of attracting censorship, but I think we are failing in our efforts to support Paul's campaign if we do not allows ourselves to openly evaluate the prevailing strategy. Both Paul and the campaign are fallible, as our own views and opinions, and I am certainly not exempt from that statement. I am worried, however, that groupthink here is creating blind spots toward real potential vulnerabilities of Paul and the campaign.
 
He said getting Paul "out of the discussion" would be "healthy." Bastard!

Actually, I'm glad to hear it. GOP watched last night. The people watching Chris Matthews aren't too likely to be the ones who have a deep interest in the well being of the GOP.
 
Huntsman didn't even freaking SAY anything this morning. And the only memorable thing he said yesterday was in Mandarin. I don't understand how they could possibly make Huntsman surge. I understand Santorum and Iowa. Santorum went for the religious right. But how are they angling Huntsman in New Hampshire?
 
I didn't watch the debate. But from reading the comments on the 1st hour I have to wonder when Ron finally got his second question, why could he not have asked rhetorically to the audience, "Did y'all see what went on here for the last 1/2 hour? GE, their military complex advertisers, and their hired moderators down there are scared of me and they don't want to acknowledge that I'm in 2nd place in the NH polls and they don't want me talking about cutting spending and halting the transfer of wealth from the middle class to the crony capitalists."
 
Huntsman didn't even freaking SAY anything this morning. And the only memorable thing he said yesterday was in Mandarin. I don't understand how they could possibly make Huntsman surge. I understand Santorum and Iowa. Santorum went for the religious right. But how are they angling Huntsman in New Hampshire?

Chris is promoting him as the "independent-buck-the-trend-moderate-not-romney-who-knows-how-to-heal-washington-and-is-a-maverick-like-palin-but-with-smaller-nads.
 
ABC just released the OTUS poll to the TV screens

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I didn't watch the debate. But from reading the comments on the 1st hour I have to wonder when Ron finally got his second question, why could he not have asked rhetorically to the audience, "Did y'all see what went on here for the last 1/2 hour? GE, their military complex advertisers, and their hired moderators down there are scared of me and they don't want to acknowledge that I'm in 2nd place in the NH polls and they don't want me talking about cutting spending and halting the transfer of wealth from the middle class to the crony capitalists."
I think he would sound too much like a conspiracy theorist....
 
The whole 90 minute post-debate "analysis" seemed like one big *wink wink, hint hint, vote for Huntsman* skit.
 
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