January 8, 2012 NBC Debate - OFFICIAL Thread

Jon Huntsman is not a serious candidate for President

Jon Huntsman is not a serious candidate for president…

He could not compete in Iowa.

He has not qualified for the Illinois ballot, the 5th largest state.

He has not qualified for the Virginia ballot, the 12th largest state.
 
I wish he would say yea youur right washington has ignored everything I've been saying for years and look where that's got us.
 
OMG how much time do they give Santorum? :S I start to hear only *blablabla* now. He can't keep my attention.
 
Frothy carried some serious Neocon water there. He is set for life in terms of consulting contracts. (see: Judd Gregg)
 
This is boost Santorum for S.C debate and boost Huntsman for NH debate.
Ron Paul was too good last evening. MSM needs to dampen him a little bit
 
Jon Huntsman Does Have A Record…

Jon Huntsman Does Have A Record…

Signed the Western Climate Initiative (2008) Initiative requires partner states to set regional goals for greenhouse gas reduction, develop methods for achieving those goals. Initiative also lays the foundation for and international cap and trade program with the US and Canada.

Joined the Western Regional Climate Action Partnership

“During a news conference Monday in the Governor's Mansion, Huntsman and Schwarzenegger were highly critical of the Bush administration's failure to take significant action to lower greenhouse gas emissions, notably carbon dioxide, that are blamed for global warming.” Deseret News

“It also would set up the "cap and trade" policy in which pollution control credits could be purchased.” Deseret News

“They have agreed to work toward setting standards to reduce greenhouse emissions under a market-based program called “cap and trade.” Deseret News

Established a Blue Ribbon Advisory Council on Climate Change in 2006. (Club For Growth)

Defended Cap and Trade in 2008 debate. (Club For Growth)

Appeared in ad with Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Gov. Brian Schweitzer telling Congress to act on climate change. Huntsman said in the ad:
“Now it’s time for Congress to act by capping greenhouse-gas pollution.”

“Huntsman told the New York Times that action on the national level was preferable to the patchwork system that state governments have been putting in place.” Deseret News

Statement from his office about the ad:
“This ad is an effort to encourage congressional action, which is imperative to a nationwide, comprehensive approach to clean our air...”Deseret News

“As governor, he took heat for his involvement in a program aimed at reducing carbon emissions. The Western Climate Initiative, which included six states and three Canadian provinces, had a cap-a-trade provision and encouraged fuel-efficient vehicles, renewable energy use and energy conservation.” Washington Times

From 2005-2009 Utah’s population plus inflation increased 21.2%, yet total spending increased 33.8%. Club For Growth White Paper

Per capita spending increased by 10% annually. Cato

Huntsman flip-flopped on stimulus (Politifact 6/21/11)

Supported of TARP - said “I don’t think there’s any way around it.” Huntsman's Clintonian Dodge Daily Caller 7/7/11

Said Stimulus Should have been bigger:
"Well, if I were in Congress, I probably would not have voted in favor (of the Recovery Act), because it didn`t have enough stimulus and probably wasn`t big enough to begin with. 2/24/09 on Cavuto - Politifact

"The size of about a trillion dollars was floated by Mark Zandi, who’s a very respected economist. I tend to believe what he is saying about the size of the package, which didn’t necessarily hit the mark in terms of size." Politico 2/24/09

Stimulus would be "would be a welcome relief in a year like this" Youtube 1/15/11

Said Obama’s stimulus wasn’t large enough:
“I guess in hindsight we can all say that there were some fundamental flaws with it. It probably wasn’t large enough and, number two,there probably wasn’t enough stimulus effect.” Daily Caller

“Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr. appeared on two cable news programs Monday defending Utah’s decision to take federal stimulus dollars and made an effort to look presidential while doing it. With Washington, D.C., as a backdrop, the governor took a jab at Republicans for resorting to “gratuitous political griping” and “carping” on MSNBC over President Obama’s federal stimulus bill, which will bring $1.5 billion to Utah.” February 24, 2009, Deseret Morning News Redstate
 
My Trust Meter hasn't believed Huntsmann since the first time I heard him speak. He comes across as an actor playing a part.
 
thought ron responded well to frothy. that was a good attack by frothy. it plays to the ignorant fears perpetuated by the msm about ron but i think ron handled it well
 
With Republican candidates trying to prove who hates Obamacare the most, let’s see what history proves.​
​

Mitt Romney laid out the blueprint for Obamacare. In fact, “…Obama often praises Mr. Romney’s health reform as the model for the national version, including a mandate that requires individuals to purchase insurance.” (Christian Science Monitor)

Newt Gingrich was an early fan of the individual mandate. Gingrich “…co-sponsored legislation with this provision in 1993, when it was still in vogue with conservative think tanks; they have since renounced it. He continued to support a mandate in books published in 2005, 2009 and 2010, and in a May 2011 television appearance in which he said he supported ‘some requirement that you either have health insurance or you post a bond.’” (Wall Street Journal)

In 1994, Rick Santorum was by Gingrich’s side, advocating for the individual mandate. According to The Morning Call: “Santorum … would require individuals to buy health insurance…” (The Morning Call)

Additionally, as late as 2007 Governor Huntsman voiced his support of a health insurance mandate, or “requirement,” on all Utah citizens during a televised interview.

And while Governor Perry claims to be against government interference in the healthcare industry, it is widely known he required forced inoculation for young Texas girls, with possible medical side effects. “Perry doesn't exactly emerge from this debate smelling like a rose. The science on the HPV vaccine may be relatively settled now, but it wasn't in 2007, just a year after federal approval of Merck's Gardasil vaccine, which is why at the time we urged states to avoid mandates.” (L.A. Times)
 
Matt Collins said:
Jon Huntsman Does Have A Record…

Signed the Western Climate Initiative (2008) Initiative requires partner states to set regional goals for greenhouse gas reduction, develop methods for achieving those goals. Initiative also lays the foundation for and international cap and trade program with the US and Canada.

Joined the Western Regional Climate Action Partnership

“During a news conference Monday in the Governor's Mansion, Huntsman and Schwarzenegger were highly critical of the Bush administration's failure to take significant action to lower greenhouse gas emissions, notably carbon dioxide, that are blamed for global warming.” Deseret News

“It also would set up the "cap and trade" policy in which pollution control credits could be purchased.” Deseret News

“They have agreed to work toward setting standards to reduce greenhouse emissions under a market-based program called “cap and trade.” Deseret News

Established a Blue Ribbon Advisory Council on Climate Change in 2006. (Club For Growth)

Defended Cap and Trade in 2008 debate. (Club For Growth)

Appeared in ad with Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Gov. Brian Schweitzer telling Congress to act on climate change. Huntsman said in the ad:
“Now it’s time for Congress to act by capping greenhouse-gas pollution.”

“Huntsman told the New York Times that action on the national level was preferable to the patchwork system that state governments have been putting in place.” Deseret News

Statement from his office about the ad:
“This ad is an effort to encourage congressional action, which is imperative to a nationwide, comprehensive approach to clean our air...”Deseret News

“As governor, he took heat for his involvement in a program aimed at reducing carbon emissions. The Western Climate Initiative, which included six states and three Canadian provinces, had a cap-a-trade provision and encouraged fuel-efficient vehicles, renewable energy use and energy conservation.” Washington Times

From 2005-2009 Utah’s population plus inflation increased 21.2%, yet total spending increased 33.8%. Club For Growth White Paper

Per capita spending increased by 10% annually. Cato

Huntsman flip-flopped on stimulus (Politifact 6/21/11)

Supported of TARP - said “I don’t think there’s any way around it.” Huntsman's Clintonian Dodge Daily Caller 7/7/11

Said Stimulus Should have been bigger:
"Well, if I were in Congress, I probably would not have voted in favor (of the Recovery Act), because it didn`t have enough stimulus and probably wasn`t big enough to begin with. 2/24/09 on Cavuto - Politifact

"The size of about a trillion dollars was floated by Mark Zandi, who’s a very respected economist. I tend to believe what he is saying about the size of the package, which didn’t necessarily hit the mark in terms of size." Politico 2/24/09

Stimulus would be "would be a welcome relief in a year like this" Youtube 1/15/11

Said Obama’s stimulus wasn’t large enough:
“I guess in hindsight we can all say that there were some fundamental flaws with it. It probably wasn’t large enough and, number two,there probably wasn’t enough stimulus effect.” Daily Caller

“Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr. appeared on two cable news programs Monday defending Utah’s decision to take federal stimulus dollars and made an effort to look presidential while doing it. With Washington, D.C., as a backdrop, the governor took a jab at Republicans for resorting to “gratuitous political griping” and “carping” on MSNBC over President Obama’s federal stimulus bill, which will bring $1.5 billion to Utah.” February 24, 2009, Deseret Morning News Redstate
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Wow, that's freaking *scary*
 
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