Jane Roe of Roe vs Wade Jan 22 announcement

flip flopper? That is so ridiculous.

Many people go from pro-choice to pro-life. I was once prochoice. Now I'm pro-life.

It's called having an awakening, not flip-flopping! :)
 
No they can hold us back as long as they damn well please. We have no right to be on their air and they don't want us there.

Frankly I'm tired of this senseless optimism around here. It's about time we started dealing with reality. This campaign is failing and our country is failing with it.

Deal with reality, not what could be. Learn from results, don't make excuses. Freedom isn't popular, it's sad but true. FIND ANSWERS TO THESE PROBLEMS.

There. That should keep everyone busy for a week at least.

Hey, my friend. I'm gonna give you a pass for these posts because your join date is May '07, but please remember that Congressman Paul has been fighting this fight for more than 30 years.

Ron taught me that only gold and silver can Constitutionally be legal tender, and that gold is static throughout history and paper only becomes devalued until it's worth zero. All the wanks in the media said he was an old fashioned crank who is full of crap.

I bought gold. The media isn't the answer...for anything.

Let's ride this thing to wherever it takes us. We're making history. We have the right man, the right answers, the right cause. What we do with it is what's important, not what the media does, not what the majority does, just us.

If you want press coverage, organize a rally of 50,000 supporters. Sell your TV and take a bus to the rally. Give Ron the venue to annouce a detailed Economic Recovery Plan with real numbers and a timeline.

Become a delegate. Have others do the same and have them vote you to state and then national. We'll force a brokered convention and raise hell for these bastards. The economy is tanking and that plays right into our hands.

These monkeys have think tanks all the way into the inner core of the CIA up all night, every night, scrambling to cover every possible angle to thwart us. That's unprecedented.

We've turned this election upside down and inside out. Optimism shouldn't be underestimated.

It ain't over 'til it's over. It's 2 weeks to ST. What have you done for me lately?

Bosso
 
I agree that it's difficult to call anyone besides of politician a flip-flopper, but I was mainly responding to another poster who referred to her as a flip-flopper. I don't mean it in a bad way (nor in a political way), as I said that she's looking for her own way in life. Nothing against her, in fact, I'm glad things are going good for her.

I read somewhere that pro-choice people tend to become pro-life as they become older. Sort of like religion and Republicanism.
 
flip flopper? That is so ridiculous.

Many people go from pro-choice to pro-life. I was once prochoice. Now I'm pro-life.

It's called having an awakening, not flip-flopping! :)


Same here. Most girls my age were pro-choice while young and single. It was a stigma to be pro-life. I didn't become pro-life until I had to really think about life while I was creating one myself. :D
 
I'm pro-choice, but whatever gets votes is cool by me...thing that sucks is that Ohio voters, if given the chance, will probably vote pro-life and ban abortion as they have done to smoking and gambling so far. I prefer a compromise personally.
 
Sorry I heard it on Ron Paul radio. Dr. Paul's grandson was manning the microphone and spoke briefly about something tomorrow. He used the word announcement. I caught most of it.

I "think" he said Jane Roe of Roe vs Wade had done a complete about face regarding her original stance on abortion. She is supposed to do an announcement (press conference??) Tuesday 22 January. He did not come out and say it would be an endorsement, but he said an endorsement would be a great thing.

Maybe she will simply mention support, but that would be the same as an endorsement. Please cross your fingers that she does this and throws her support to Dr. Paul. I do not know why his grandson brought the subject up unless he thinks his grand-dad is somehow involved.

Not only would it be great if she would endorse dr. Paul, but it would damage greatly some pro-abortion candidates. :)
 
Wow, I didn't know that "Roe" turned around 180 degrees on her views...I'm very pleased and suprised to learn that.

Strange how things work out like that. Its kind of like the lady who started Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) was arrested some years back for DUI. In Roe's case, it was a change for the better, however.

One question: Who was Wade, in Roe vs. Wade?
 
I cannot imagine why Dr. Paul's grandson would have made such a point to mention this if he did not know something.

Still, if she is still liberal inher political views, (I am just assuming she was/is liberal) she could endorse Huckabee, right? Or flip-flop Romney? (Surely not)

Folks, let us be cautiously optimistic about this for the moment. Hopefully, we will know in a few hours. :rolleyes: :)
 
flip flopper? That is so ridiculous.

Many people go from pro-choice to pro-life. I was once prochoice. Now I'm pro-life.

It's called having an awakening, not flip-flopping! :)

Amen to that! I used to be a tree hugging, pro-choice, longhair....now I'm pro-life and I have short hair....still like trees though.:D
 
Hey, my friend. I'm gonna give you a pass for these posts because your join date is May '07,

Well gee thanks.

but please remember that Congressman Paul has been fighting this fight for more than 30 years.

And that changes our consistent 8% - 10% score how exactly?

Ron taught me that only gold and silver can Constitutionally be legal tender, and that gold is static throughout history and paper only becomes devalued until it's worth zero.

He taught me those things too, and I am eternally grateful. I love Ron Paul and that is why I do the things I do do for him. He deserves it.

The media isn't the answer...for anything.[/QUOTE]

They are the only answer 90% of this country cares about. Not just CNN and your network news, but Sean Hannity, Alan Colmes, Rush Limbaugh, Al Sharpton. They are the answer to every question for the vast majority of this intellectually vapid bunch of idiots that pass themselves off as Americans.

Let's ride this thing to wherever it takes us.

Absolutely. Let's do it.

We're making history.

No we're not. We're losing. Sure, we made some history in the summer with our money bombs and internet presence. But it hasn't meant jack in the primaries. The Patriots have won 18 straight games this season and broken multiple offensive records. If they lose the super bowl, will any of it matter?

We have the right man, the right answers, the right cause.

Absolutely. Amen.


What we do with it is what's important, not what the media does, not what the majority does, just us.

Yes. No. and you couldn't be more wrong.

Yes, What we do is important, no doubt.

No, What the media does matters big time. More than yard signs, more than TV ads, more than money, the media matters. Good grief, learn something from our failures. The media says Ron Paul is a kook, and they perpetuate that idea in the Republican establishment media, and boom, Ron Paul and all his followers are kooks. Spend three hours one day listening to your local neo-con talk show host. If he at all mentions Paul and takes calls, just listen to the way people talk about him. It's like listening to a parrot. If you want a good example, take my guy Mark Belling. www.belling.com

If you want an accurate picture of the media in this country, read 1984 by George Orwell and pay attention to what the Ministry of Truth does. The Ministry of Truth is the modern day media, lying hacks bought, paid for, and completely controlled by a band of ruthless tyrants.

and you couldn't be more wrong; what the majority does couldn't be more important. We are trying to win a majority vote here, or have you forgotten that this is an election. This is exactly what I mean when I say the starry eyed optimists around here need to wake up. We are losing. It's time we learned from our mistakes, realized that Ron Paul is wrong about freedom being popular, and figured out how to fix this and fast. I don't know what can be done, but something has got to be done.


Become a delegate. Have others do the same and have them vote you to state and then national. We'll force a brokered convention and raise hell for these bastards.

Good answer. I can't become a delegate. But I'll support anyone in my state who will and vote for Ron Paul.

The economy is tanking and that plays right into our hands.

No, it doesn't. Remember, our ideas are kooky. We can't even tie our shoes. We don't take showers. We think Aliens blew up the pentagon. This is how most people view us and Ron. They don't care to hear our answers, so when we have answers we play into no ones hands because we are already marginalized. The ministry of truth does it's job again, and does it very well.

These monkeys have think tanks all the way into the inner core of the CIA up all night, every night, scrambling to cover every possible angle to thwart us. That's unprecedented.

Don't kid yourself. John McCain, Hillary, et. al. haven't given Ron a second thought, and it probably hasn't even occurred to them more than once that people like us support him. You want them to worry, win a damn state, actually at this point, you'll probably have to win at least two. Then they'll worry. Right now, we don't have a prayer if we continue with our usual 8 - 10%. That's just the truth.

We've turned this election upside down and inside out. Optimism shouldn't be underestimated.

We haven't done diddly with this election. Again, don't kid yourself. Also, optimism never won a single vote or a single election. That is mere sophistry. Another lie of the ministry of truth.

It ain't over 'til it's over.

Unless something drastic happens, it's over. Trust me.

It's 2 weeks to ST. What have you done for me lately?

we will score no higher than 15% in any state on ST unless we begin to learn from the actual results. That includes us, the official campaign, and Ron Paul himself. Freedom isn't popular, sadly, and it will no more or less popular on Super Tuesday.

And as far as what I am doing, same things I've been doing this whole time. Passing out slim jims, putting up yard signs, talking to friends, family, neighbors, co-workers, church mates, etc. etc. etc. Oh and what I am doing right now, trying to wake you people up to the reality of our situation.

Learn from the results. Results are your friend. Starry eyed optimism (I was as guilty of this as anyone) got us to where we are and that is nowhere. Time to make drastic changes or live with the fact that we failed, either one. I have no idea what changes to make, and I'm uncomfortable with being resigned to failure, so I admit I have no answers. But we had better figure it our right quick, because what we got sure ain't workin'.
 
Excuse me, I did not say she was going to endorse Dr. Paul. Please re-read my remarks.

I simply do not know why his grandson mentioned it pointedly, unless he suspected/knew something. It seems odd he would do that.

I do not know the lady's politics, but if she were going to announce something important, it might be support for or endorsement for a pro-life candidate. This is all speculation at this point, but maybe we will know in a few hours.

Sorry you misunderstood. For all I know she might not say anything. I was merely passing along what I heard Dr. Paul's granson mention briefly on Ron Paul radio Monday night.

I KNOW nothing more. Just hoping.
 
This is how it went:

She said she was raped,
she was a lesbian,
wanted an abortion,
couldn't have it,
lawyers took her case to the highest court of the office,
she won,
later revealed her name,
later revealed she wasn't raped,
later stated the lawyers used her for their ambitions,
became pro-life,
in 2005 she became a Catholic and unlesbianified,
in 2007 she endorsed Sam Brownback,
and now she is going to endorse Ron Paul?

I guess the war isn't a big issue for her, or she was converted.

The Vatican has opposed the war since the beginning, along with many prominent Catholic paleo-conservatives like Pat Buchanan and Catholic Libertarians like Thomas E. Woods. Jane Roe is a person of strong faith now, and her faith is most definitely in line with the ecumenical body she has joined with.
 
No, no this won't be huge at all. No one will cover it. No one will report on it. Therefore no one will hear about it, and those who DO hear about it, half will believe that it doesn't matter (because that's what they are told to believe) and the other half won't be swayed by it because Ron "can't win" or they are already supporting him.

The endorsements of the military meant nothing. The endorsement of John Derbyshire meant nothing. This will mean nothing.

There is a reason that Ron is consistently getting 8-10% in the primaries (Nevada not withstanding) and that is because freedom really isn't that popular.

Come on guys, learn something from the results, don't fantasize about what could be.

My, my....aren't we on the Negativity Band Wagon. Without optimism, what hope would we have? If we went about things in your kind of pessimism, we'd never get out of bed.

Armchair quarterbacks solve nothing...turn off Faux, CNN, or whatever MSM you're watching and come back into the light. Ron Paul's movement is real, and it is growing WITHOUT THE MSM's HELP.

Buck up, soldier. There's a war to fight - a war we must win.
 
Not only would it be great if she would endorse dr. Paul, but it would damage greatly some pro-abortion candidates. :)

I welcome her vote and support but it won't change a single thing. If she said something the media doesn't like, they simply will not report on her. Just look at how many of you thought she was still pro-choice.

If she says something the bought and paid for pro-life community doesn't like, they simply won't talk about her, or they'll respond by tsk-tsking her or offering and alternative, or even praising her with back handed compliments like "it's too bad she choose a guy who can't win" or "I wonder if she'll change her mind to a more senseable choice once Paul finally realizes it's not going to happen for him." Something like that.

This changes nothing, it means nothing, it won't earn us a single vote, and besides we have no idea if she is even going to support Dr. Paul. I'm sorry but those are the cold hard facts. Facts are your friends.
 
My, my....aren't we on the Negativity Band Wagon. Without optimism, what hope would we have? If we went about things in your kind of pessimism, we'd never get out of bed.

Armchair quarterbacks solve nothing...turn off Faux, CNN, or whatever MSM you're watching and come back into the light. Ron Paul's movement is real, and it is growing WITHOUT THE MSM's HELP.

Buck up, soldier. There's a war to fight - a war we must win.

8 - 10% consistently in every single primary except Nevada. Some states have been even lower.

This is a fact. I'm not optimistic. I'm not pessimistic. I am factual. We are losing. We are failing.

The movement can be real all it wants, but the fact is that it is too small. We can't blame it on money, we've had more money than we know what to do with. We can't blame it on volunteers, because, well, look around this forum. We can't blame it on the candidate, because he is awesome. We can blame it on the simple fact that freedom isn't popular. Period.

8 - 10% CONSISTENTLY. CONSISTENTLY It is a fact. It is not emotion like optimism or pessimism. It is fact. Learn from it, deal with it, and maybe we'll get somewhere.
 
Very well articulated indeed.

I can only imagine if I were in her shoes. I have a very strong conscience and would find it nearly impossible to live with such a decision and the ensuing circus for years and years. I can only empathize with her in the sense she must have over the years endured a great mental burden and probably a lot of guilt feelings.

If she has made thes other significant changes in her life, then the abortion issue would maybe be the last and largest issue in her life for which she might feel a need to atone.

Does that seem reasonable? Whatever she has to say will be interesting to hear since I have not followed her life at all. Did not even know she was lying in that case that has eventually allowed for the deaths of so many infants and created so much turmoil in this country about the issue of abortion.

Once again "blowback" may be rearing its ugly head.

If she were going to support a candidate, does anyone else have an opinion which candidate she would likely support?
 
We can blame it on the simple fact that freedom isn't popular. Period.

That I must agree with you on. Most people would NOT know what to do with freedom would they even have it. Its my belief that most people would rather be led, and be told what is true or false. I wrote an article about Liberty at Nolan Chart about this very thing. http://www.nolanchart.com/author83.html

Oh, yeah...sorry about the armchair quarterback thing....my bad. Looking at your posts a little more objectively, I must tend to agree with your points...But I try to keep my head up and not get discouraged, because then I just get depressed.
 
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