It's time to get serious. Only Ron Paul can defeat Obama.

justinpagewood · Mar 10, 2012

I need your help.

State voting is going by incredibly fast, and we have very little time to convince voters that Ron Paul is the best candidate.

We need to stop focusing on "No Tax on Tips," or trying to get young people to vote, or get Democrats to register Republican. Obviously, that's not working right now. It's something we need to do in the General Election, but not for a GOP Primary.

We need to convince older Republican voters in their 50s to 70s that Only Ron Paul can defeat Obama.

Why? Because he can bring the most amount of Democrats, Independents, and Youth votes in the General Election, which is what the GOP candidate must do in order to take back the White House.

Stop talking about war, and blowback, and the Federal Reserve. Stop trying to win on principle. Ultimately voters want a Republican back in the White House, and we need to let Republicans know that only Ron Paul will truly be able to take votes away from Obama. The other candidates will get crushed.

I've put together materials to help everyone consolidate their pitch, and start using this argument.

Check out the resources at www.ronpauldesigns.com

PS. I'm looking for someone to help make a 45 second YouTube video of this content. It will not be for Republican voters, it'll be to help educate Ron Paul supporters on real tactics that are needed to WIN the GOP nomination.

eleganz · Mar 10, 2012

My suggestion would be to back it up with a few quotes, exerpts, references from polling companies to have a little credibility.

UMULAS · Mar 10, 2012

Ok, HOW are we going to convince older people? Can you guys give me examples.

eleganz · Mar 10, 2012

UMULAS said:
Ok, HOW are we going to convince older people? Can you guys give me examples.

A card won't convince them but will plant that seed of doubt...

If we can get the message loud enough the media just might pick up on it.

We need to do something drastic and extreme to show that Ron is the only one with the cross over appeal to beat Obama....

We can't do it without the corporate media, there is no other medium to reach these old ass GOP voters.

Based on my personal experience talking to a bunch of different people at our LA phone-bank, people don't really care about beating Obama anymore when Ron is brought up, the corporations do a good job with their brainwash...gotta give them that much.

Paul Or Nothing II · Mar 10, 2012

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I've been saying this for AGES that we MUST bring out Ron's superior electability against Obama due to his appeal amongst the Independents & Democrats

In fact, this should've been the FIRST thing, the campaign & Ron should've focused on because most voters simply don't care what you've to say if you're "unelectable" & media has been peddling this lie for a long time & we wasted time on all the attack-ads, we should've left attack-ads to the others & focused on presenting Ron as anti-Obama because right now, the Republican Party is more or Anyone-that-can-beat-Obama Party

I'd even created a thread about why Paul would be GOP's best bet against Obama but most Paul-supporters don't seem to recognize that electability should be the MAIN focus while all the issues being peripherals that most voters don't really understand or care about - http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ul-is-the-most-quot-electable-quot-Republican

LittleLightShining · Mar 10, 2012

eleganz said:
My suggestion would be to back it up with a few quotes, exerpts, references from polling companies to have a little credibility.

You could point to Vermont. Democrats who were making mischief went for Rick Santorum. Independents and disaffected anti-war and pro-civil liberties Democrats (roughly 10%) went to Ron Paul. HALF of is vote was outside of the traditional Republican framework.

LittleLightShining · Mar 10, 2012

eleganz said:
A card won't convince them but will plant that seed of doubt...

If we can get the message loud enough the media just might pick up on it.

We need to do something drastic and extreme to show that Ron is the only one with the cross over appeal to beat Obama....

We can't do it without the corporate media, there is no other medium to reach these old ass GOP voters.

Based on my personal experience talking to a bunch of different people at our LA phone-bank, people don't really care about beating Obama anymore when Ron is brought up, the corporations do a good job with their brainwash...gotta give them that much.

California is an open primary this year. Court the protest votes and play up the issues that matter to the broadest base of voters.

eleganz · Mar 10, 2012

LittleLightShining said:
California is an open primary this year. Court the protest votes and play up the issues that matter to the broadest base of voters.

It's closed, trust me.

Scott_in_PA · Mar 10, 2012

It will be tough with the news screwing thing up to suit there agenda.

Notice how the first part of this is talk about vs the title in the graphics.

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TheGrinch · Mar 10, 2012

I agree, and I don't mean the following to be negative or disheartening, but to recognize that there is much more to do to hammer home this important point, that only Paul can beat Obama, and it's not a threat, it's a promise (that the polls currently back up).

However, here's why more needs to be done to show this:

This is among the biggest points I've hammered home lately to my parents and other voters, after the long battle for them to see what Dr. Paul was really about... So even though they liked Paul, their stated goal was the same as most republican voters: a candidate that could beat Obama... After some discussions about that and other issues, I figured they saw there was only one way to do that..

Then primary day comes around, and I ask my mom if she's going to cast her vote for Dr. Paul, and she says "I'm not sure. I don't think so"... I'm clearly devastated and don't know what to say, as she explains that she plans to vote for Romney, so that the frontrunner didn't lose to much momentum in Georgia... Seriously this was what was going through her head, and I had to pretty much start over about why Dr. Paul is the only one who can beat Obama, and frankly got to the point of insulting her and other voters, "You all claim you just want to beat Obama, to the point to where you're rallying behind a guy who's unlikely to beat him, and who most of you don't even like"... I was frankly pissed that after all these fake candidates their party has supported over the years, and her son has to again convince her of the one right choice that can actually accomplish their stated goal.

I don't recommend this approach I took to address it, but point being, she was far from the only one. I heard other ones saying to vote for Santorum, to the point that I really don't think they buy the fact that only Paul can beat Obama, even as the polls show it to be true. The good news is that republican voters really don't know what they want right now, and that's why they're flocking even more than usual towards anyone that can beat Obama.... The problem of course, is they still just don't believe that Paul is the guy, and so I'll be thinking and looking for more ways to hammer that home. It is no doubt priority #1 for republican voters, and it's time to seize that, as the seeds of doubt have been planted about the other candidates.

LittleLightShining · Mar 10, 2012

eleganz said:
It's closed, trust me.

Ahhh. you're right. The Presidential Republican primary is closed. Everything else is open... Doesn't change the facts. Open primaries are where it's at for the beauty contest AND delegates.

heavenlyboy34 · Mar 10, 2012

IMO, it's good to play up RP's military experience and his efforts to help veterans. He's also talked about reforming SS without breaking promises to seniors. Just throwing that out there for ya.

MikeChambers · Mar 10, 2012

All of the ideas are great but until you can directly combat the thousands of ads being run on radio and TV with ads of your own, it's all a moot point. The ads are on the campaign and their super PAC's. You can't show up to a gun fight with a knife and expect to win.

LittleLightShining · Mar 10, 2012

Yeah, Mike, so sit home and don't even try. Seriously, you know the best way to counteract the television? Stop watching it and worrying about what's on it, grab a friend and spend a couple hours knocking on doors.

MikeChambers · Mar 10, 2012

I never said sit at home. I'm merely pointing out a current reality.

TheGrinch · Mar 10, 2012

MikeChambers said:
All of the ideas are great but until you can directly combat the thousands of ads being run on radio and TV with ads of your own, it's all a moot point. The ads are on the campaign and their super PAC's. You can't show up to a gun fight with a knife and expect to win.

Good point (I'll play along)... So how much have you contributed to the campaign to keep those ads running so we don't have to bother with this nonsense?

Or is your plan to go lobby to Goldman Sachs to fund us instead of Romney? Cuz the reason why grassroots exists is to do what we don't have the funding or support to do solely through the media who blacks us out.

MikeChambers · Mar 10, 2012

Grinch,

My point is that the grassroots are great and people have been working hard all over the country. The grassroots are the infantry but infantry alone does not win a battle. It requires artillery, cavalry and "air" support. In a number of states I've watched as it appeared the battle was about to be won only to see the other side push in their reserves and support. Romney has outspent everyone buying as many states as he can.

The fact that Romney has not been linked to Goldman Sachs and Obama is almost criminal. It would have soiled his temple drawers. I don't like the outcomes of what we have seen but I cannot ignore the reality of the situation.

For the record - I've promoted Ron Paul for two campaigns on my daily show and over the last two campaigns gave quite a bit of my cash to fund it.

ILUVRP · Mar 10, 2012

i'm a senior ( ex mil like RP ) , i think he has to stress his anti-war ( w/o congress ok ) talk , the lack of service from the others is a very big talking point as many many seniors are vets, many like Eisenhower very much ,

also stress that social security will be changed slowly , like 15-20 yrs to reform it so it don't go broke.

i honestly think Ron Paul is the only one that can come even close to beating Obama .

jemuf · Mar 10, 2012

MikeChambers said:
All of the ideas are great but until you can directly combat the thousands of ads being run on radio and TV with ads of your own, it's all a moot point. The ads are on the campaign and their super PAC's. You can't show up to a gun fight with a knife and expect to win.

Don't you just love the '08 members Mike C.?

Yes we could keep doing the same thing we're doing, but...why can't we even beat Gingrich in these "beauty contests"?

Knocking on doors doesn't work for Ron Paul; he has too much working against him. Where's my proof? http://www.ronpaul2012.com/category/events/month Zero events are scheduled after today.

Whatever happens from this point forward is only going to be effective if the Ron Paul Campaign spearheads it. Which is what Mike C. was saying.

I would love to see something dramatic...positive of course.

GeorgiaAvenger · Mar 10, 2012

I wouldn't say he is the only one, but he is the best bet.

It's time to get serious. Only Ron Paul can defeat Obama.

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