It's Over.

[Truth Warrior]

I swear sometimes I picture you as a mentally handicapped person with a helmet on viciously hunt and pecking the next reply.

Well that's certainly better than I picture you.

 

[LibertyOfOne]

Well that's certainly better than I picture you.

I was going for self irony.

 

[Truth Warrior]

I was going for self irony.

You missed!

 

[Theocrat]

One Word

Probably because you aren't accounting for tremendous periods of time (billions) with stupdendous ammounts of mutations.

You know, thinking logically. Heck, give that E.coli 1 thousand years and see where it's at, then give it a few millions, then the big one, billions.

It really is quite simple.

Pete

Faith. You have as much of it as I do.

 

[phixion]

Faith. You have as much of it as I do.

It's not faith, you cretin.

Pete

 

[LibertyOfOne]

Faith. You have as much of it as I do.

No, I lost my "faith" in humanity.

 

[Theocrat]

Empirical Impossibility

It's not faith, you cretin.

Pete

Oh, so you observed those thousands, millions, and billions of years it took for bacteria to evolve into the species of E. coli, I see. Okay, God...

 

[Truth Warrior]

Probably because you aren't accounting for tremendous periods of time (billions) with stupdendous ammounts of mutations.

You know, thinking logically. Heck, give that E.coli 1 thousand years and see where it's at, then give it a few millions, then the big one, billions.

It really is quite simple.

Pete

Where was E. Coli a thousand years ago, a million, a billion?

 

[phixion]

Oh, so you observed those thousands, millions, and billions of years it took for bacteria to evolve into the species of E. coli, I see. Okay, God...

No, I did not. I did not need to.

"Faith is a belief in the trustworthiness of an idea that one has not proven formally or cannot prove formally"

Evolution is far from believing in stories in an old book. It is fact and any sane person can conclude it if they haven't been touched by religion in early childhood.

Unfortunately you were molested pretty harshly by your parents beliefs and had little chance.

Now all you can do is cling emotionally to your book by exercising your intelect in a desperate attempt to save yourself from the mental breakdown that would more than likely ensue if you were to discover the reality of your faith and just how much damage your parents did.

Pete

 

[phixion]

Where was E. Coli a thousand years ago, a million, a billion?

Who knows? Who cares?

If you cannot see what this demonstrates about 'life' in the short time the experiment has been going, you are insane.

Pete

 

[amy31416]

I don't care about the rest of this crap. That's a really cool study. Fascinating that the groundwork was set for the bacteria to evolve in generation 20k, but didn't express itself until generation ~31k.

It could give us a lot of new information on how evolution works, which is indeed, really freakin' cool.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Darwin's, "Origins of Species", is a pretty old book!

 

[Truth Warrior]

I don't care about the rest of this crap. That's a really cool study. Fascinating that the groundwork was set for the bacteria to evolve in generation 20k, but didn't express itself until generation ~31k.

It could give us a lot of new information on how evolution works, which is indeed, really freakin' cool.

Why call it "evolve"? Maybe it just burped!

 

[Theocrat]

Excuse You

No, I did not. I did not need to.

"Faith is a belief in the trustworthiness of an idea that one has not proven formally or cannot prove formally"

Evolution is far from believing in stories in an old book. It is fact and any sane person can conclude it if they haven't been touched by religion in early childhood.

Unfortunately you were molested pretty harshly by your parents beliefs and had little chance.

Now all you can do is cling emotionally to your book by exercising your intelect in a desperate attempt to save yourself from the mental breakdown that would more than likely ensue if you were to discover the reality of your faith and just how much damage your parents did.

Pete

That's your definition of faith, not mine. Faith is based on evidence of things not seen. Though I can't see God, I know He exists because of the evidence found in nature and His revelation. You have faith in something you have not seen, either. You did not witness the evolution of E. coli through its supposed evolutionary history, which, according to you, took billions of years. You believe it happened for billions of years, but how do you know for sure?

NOTE: This discussion is not science vs. religion; it's religion vs. religion. You have a naturalistic view of the world, and I have a supernaturalistic one. Keep that in mind when you post your evidences and arguments. My parents taught me to think, not in spite of my Christian beliefs, but because of them. You, on the other hand, are the victim of humanistic dogma which tries to seclude itself from being a religious worldview, and that's the damnable deceit which fumes from the Darwinian superstition.

 

[ARealConservative]

I don't care about the rest of this crap. That's a really cool study. Fascinating that the groundwork was set for the bacteria to evolve in generation 20k, but didn't express itself until generation ~31k.

It could give us a lot of new information on how evolution works, which is indeed, really freakin' cool.

it was kind of a well duh moment for me.

I guess for real scientists, verifiable data is the most important thing, but I always kind of figured that was how it would work.

 

[Theocrat]

Exactly

Darwin's, "Origins of Species", is a pretty old book!

Isn't it amazing how quickly he/she overlooks that fact? I suppose consistency is not a virtue for some evolutionists. Darwin robs their rationality.

 

[LittleLightShining]

That's your definition of faith, not mine. Faith is based on evidence of things not seen. Though I can't see God, I know He exists because of the evidence found in nature and His revelation. You have faith in something you have not seen, either. You did not witness the evolution of E. coli through its supposed evolutionary history, which, according to you, took billions of years. You believe it happened for billions of years, but how do you know for sure?

NOTE: This discussion is not science vs. religion; it's religion vs. religion. You have a naturalistic view of the world, and I have a supernaturalistic one. Keep that in mind when you post your evidences and arguments. My parents taught me to think, not in spite of my Christian beliefs, but because of them. You, on the other hand, are the victim of humanistic dogma which tries to seclude itself from being a religious worldview, and that's the damnable deceit which fumes from the Darwinian superstition.

Great post, Theo.

As for the germs, they did not evolve into a completely different species, the evolved from e. coli to e. coli as was stated before. And it's all part of God's plan.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Who knows? Who cares?

If you cannot see what this demonstrates about 'life' in the short time the experiment has been going, you are insane.

Pete

Obviously the evolutionists DON'T?

And if you think that you know what it means about "life", you are insane and merely "cult" faithful.

 

[phixion]

That's your definition of faith, not mine. Faith is based on evidence of things not seen. Though I can't see God, I know He exists because of the evidence found in nature and His revelation. You have faith in something you have not seen, either. You did not witness the evolution of E. coli through its supposed evolutionary history, which, according to you, took billions of years. You believe it happened for billions of years, but how do you know for sure?

NOTE: This discussion is not science vs. religion; it's religion vs. religion. You have a naturalistic view of the world, and I have a supernaturalistic one. Keep that in mind when you post your evidences and arguments. My parents taught me to think, not in spite of my Christian beliefs, but because of them. You, on the other hand, are the victim of humanistic dogma which tries to seclude itself from being a religious worldview, and that's the damnable deceit which fumes from the Darwinian superstition.

Sigh.

Your parents severely damaged your developing brain, that much is clear.

So much so you're unable to even contemplate or question for a second the true origins of your very own religious beliefs, how THEY came about AND how you even came to believe yourself. It is that ingrained in you. It is that hard-wired. You simply don't want to know. You were taught to accept the bible as truth before you even know why you had to eat food every day. It is no wonder you are so hard-wired. It's impossible for you to contemplate anything else as the truth of the matter.

I do not have a 'religion' - do not try to make out that my beliefs are in any way, shape or form like yours. They are not. Do not justify your insane beliefs by stating mine are no different.

You could say you were raised by wild dogs as a young child and only know how to communicate in a serious of barks and the body language of canines. That is how you were raised. That's the connections you made during your development. The window is now closed for anything else. There's no going back. You will never be able to re-learn to speak human or develop social skills. This is what religion does to young children who aren't ready to analyse or think critically about what they're being taught.

It's obvious to anyone not molested by silly beliefs that evolution is fact.

It's so sad to see Christians like yourself.

Pete

 

[Truth Warrior]

it was kind of a well duh moment for me.

I guess for real scientists, verifiable data is the most important thing, but I always kind of figured that was how it would work.

Duh moment for me too, it's just the same old shit. No new species!