It's over: Jeb Bush will be the GOP nominee in 2016

Well, Jeb Bush should have been in jail in 2001 for voter fraud. His father should have been in jail in 1963 for the murder of JFK. Prescott Bush and George Herbert Walker should have been in jail for funding Hitler in 1942. The fact that we let the Bush family rule over us is disgusting to me.

...and really only works against your notion that somehow Jeb Bush is going to end up in a jail cell despite he and his entire family avoiding jail despite some of the most heinous crimes in history.
 
Jeb Bush?? They can't be that stupid.....can they?

They are brilliant. They control both parties and maintain their control of the process by heavily investing in the news media and entertainment industry.

It is a win for the establishment if it is Hillary or Jeb.
 
Speaking of Jeb Bush 2016, has Florida changed the voting machines? If not, maybe some Democrats will accidentally vote for a third party liberty candidate.
 
Well, that ran Mitt didn't they?

I tend to think that's a little different. People may be too stupid to know a fake when they see one, but they are not too stupid to have knee-jerk reactions to stigmatized terms. Bush is a pretty bad one. I honestly don't think people are that stupid... yet. God, smite me if I'm wrong.
 
Well, that ran Mitt didn't they?

Yeah, I know.

They got Junior in. Why not?

Yeah, I really do know.

They are brilliant. They control both parties and maintain their control of the process by heavily investing in the news media and entertainment industry.

It is a win for the establishment if it is Hillary or Jeb.

OK! I know! It was a rhetorical comment on my part.

I just hope the voting public isn't that stupid....there would be no better time for a 3rd party victory than if the 2 major bumblers nominate Hillary vs. Jeb.

Assuming our votes mean anything anyway.

And yeah...I already know that Boobus is capable of that much stupidity.
 
One Bush may not have been enough for America to learn, but two could very well do the trick. People may not have realized how bad HW Bush was, but after 2 it starts being a possible trend, something you want to avoid. Of course, the elections are probably rigged anyway, so I don't know how reliable my opinion is.

If you think they are rigged, NOW would be the time to take action to get the voting machines thrown out of your state. It's too late after the presidential campaign season starts.
 
If you think they are rigged, NOW would be the time to take action to get the voting machines thrown out of your state. It's too late after the presidential campaign season starts.

You're right we need to educate people. God forbid Rand make an issue of it. But once he's elected maybe he will.
 
You're right we need to educate people. God forbid Rand make an issue of it. But once he's elected maybe he will.

The only person you need to educate is the person in your state government who is responsible for the voting machines. Take the data and go present it to them and get the machines thrown out. The person/office varies in every state.. I'm talking real data here. There have been more than a couple testimonies before Congress about these
 
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OF COURSE Bush has the inside track to 2016. Always has been, with Christie emerging as a plausible backup. The GOP "establishment" are the same folks behind the Democratic establishment, that explains why they would opt for Jeb. The Plan A might very well be to ensure the GOP nominee is an establishment toady weak enough to lose to Hillary.

Plan B is he defeats Hillary, in which case the establishment still has one of their own in the White House. The one complication is the candidate needed to be strong enough to win the nomination over the liberty or TP candidates in the '16 field.
 
Not Mitt Romney again?

lol

I believe Mitt is running again. I don't know if you've noticed that he's resurfaced within the past two months and is often on FAUX news; sounding more and more like a candidate everyday.
 
Not a fan but no doubt he can beat Hillary.
I have heard that before. (McCain, Romney)

And what if the "D"s don't run Hilliary?

What if they promote some other unknown out of obscurity,, like they did with Obama?
 
Why is he so easily giving up on Rand?
Honestly, I don't think Rand has much of a chance. I hope he does, but I doubt it. People don't want liberty badly enough.

If Jeb is the nominee, I guess I'll probably have to vote for Gary Johnson:eek:.
Better than Jeb Bush or Hillary;)

Whatever happens. you better vote.
http://www.wendymcelroy.com/print.php?news.2524

If you think they are rigged, NOW would be the time to take action to get the voting machines thrown out of your state. It's too late after the presidential campaign season starts.
NY would probably legitimately vote Dem in any situation.
 
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