IT'S NOW OFFICIAL - Mainstream Media Hi-jacked the 2008 Presidential Election!

I agree so. They did hijack this election. I got pissed about my nephew and the school saying Ron Paul doesn't and was quite loud when I told my mother about it and it was BS. She told me to grow up, and then she says Ron Paul isn't on the news. Yep, it was hi jacked and she just proved it. She is not into politics at all and she help confirm this thread by what she said. She is not and will not register to vote and will never be. She will not vote never ever so getting her to is out of the question. But she did confirm this thread.
 
Actually I am hoping for a secession from the Union.. I hope Montana secedes. Starts following the constitution and all is well.

I doubt that will happen but here is to hoping.
 
ThomasJ said:
Actually I am hoping for a secession from the Union.. I hope Montana secedes. Starts following the constitution and all is well.

I doubt that will happen but here is to hoping.
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Interesting and kinda ties to a thread I thought about. I'll post it tommorrow because of the super tuesday madness. :)
 
tomveil said:
*nods*

I had a 7 year plan to get away from the country, but more because of the society. (Endless advertising, material possessions being more important than being a 'good' person, etc) After finding Ron Paul, I put all those plans on hold and thought that MAYBE we still had a chance to turn it around. Now that 7 year plan is a 4 year plan, and I HOPE that we have 4 years left.
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And here am I planning to marry my American GF and emigrate to America.

You might think I'm insane.......

But I live in the UK.

The UK was the globalists' guinea pig for enslavement. They've been destroying the UK for 50 years and they've made a fine job of it. Living here is a nightmare. It is a prison. The UK is Americ'a destiny.

But I'd still elect to live in America any day. I have faith in the American people to fight this enslavemnet whereas the British people acceped slavery without a fight.

You must stay in America and fight

There's nowhere else to go anyway..........
 
Mattsa said:
You are up against such powerful forces of darkness.

I empathise with your rant but it really wont help. You'll just thicken your arteries

Please read and understand what you are up against

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2908.shtml

It's an excellent article and sums up where we are........
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That's an incredible article.

"Most corrupt and legally sanctioned forms of tyranny hide in plain sight as democracies with free elections. The toughest lesson is that ALL elections are distractions. Nothing conceals tyranny better than elections."

"Elections just mask economic tyranny and slavery."

"The compulsion to vote is a political narcotic that sustains democratic tyranny."
 
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Don't be fooled by an escape to Australia or New Zealand

They got 'The matrix' established there too
 
Energy said:
That's an incredible article.

"Most corrupt and legally sanctioned forms of tyranny hide in plain sight as democracies with free elections. The toughest lesson is that ALL elections are distractions. Nothing conceals tyranny better than elections."

"Elections just mask economic tyranny and slavery."
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It's a cracking article

It's the best assessment of the state of things I've read for ages.

It is also terrifying :mad:

Someone should pin that article on the forum for people to read
 
tomveil said:
I'm torn.

Part of me wants to rebuild the country from the ground up. One congressman/woman at a time.

Another part of me thinks we don't have that much time, and wants to get the hell out before it all goes to crap.

*sigh*
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To quote Clinton: "It's the economy, stupid". Ironic that his wife needs to take his advice now.

There may not be a chance to fix this from the ground up. We're "all in" right now.
 
Mattsa said:
And here am I planning to marry my American GF and emigrate to America.

You might think I'm insane.......

But I live in the UK.

The UK was the globalists' guinea pig for enslavement. They've been destroying the UK for 50 years and they've made a fine job of it. Living here is a nightmare. It is a prison. The UK is Americ'a destiny.

But I'd still elect to live in America any day. I have faith in the American people to fight this enslavemnet whereas the British people acceped slavery without a fight.

You must stay in America and fight

There's nowhere else to go anyway..........
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Well, I'd sure as hell get out of the UK too :) And there ARE places to go. And there will be places to go in the future. As we've seen here, not EVERYBODY is brain-dead. :)
 
Yes, the elections are run by the MSM's brainwashing. We know this.

I see it in my family too with the older people and those that don't do their own research and instead just rely and trust what they see on the TV.

My 57 year old mother, 58 year old father, and my 30-something sister's all don't bother do do their own research, and they all think Ron Paul dropped out of the race a month ago.

They all perfectly fall into the category of todays typical American that takes the msm as the word of god that can never be wrong.

And with the passing grade in schools dropping even more, I can't imagine how much dumber the next generation will be.
 
There is something that might work.

We need to consider what would happen if RP does not win. There is a great thing that came out of the campaign ... we became aware of each other. There will be more RP's in the future. How do I know? It might be cynical, but we have proved there is a market for his message. Their will be others to step up in the near future. Maybe Rand Paul. Who knows? We will have to seperate the wheat from the chaff, that's all.

I want to leave you with a thought. Have you read Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged? Remember Galt's Gulch and what it was?

In order to diffuse government, the answer lay in trading outside of taxation and Federal Reserve notes. If we can network via a P2P software, similar to Bit Torrent, but we use that technology for transactions between each other using credits that are fully redeemable in gold or silver, the government loses power.

As Alexander Haig, U.S. Secretary of State said in 1982: "Let them march all they want, as long as they continue to pay their taxes."

Once we figure out a way to trade with each other outside of the system, we have a non-zero chance of success.

Cheers

PS. I suggest anyone reading this take action before this forum closes - and we lose touch with each other.
 
I'm afraid that new "Homegrown Terrorism" Bill has been tailor made in anticipation of PO'd Ron Paul supporters. They are grinding their boots in our faces and daring us to not like it. We are a test case. Even if RP gets nowhere today, good will come of this. People are having their eyes opened. I knew the media was biased but really had no clue of how bad it was until this election cycle. I don't believe it's new, it's just more visible with the internet to capture and replay every crummy trick and comment.
 
bootstrap said:
If any of you believe this country has one chance in a million, you are very naive.

Overt in-your-face daily corruption generates barely a peep - and even then, only in the forums of the abused.

Americans have thoroughly habituated lies, fraud, scams, deceit, fiction, fantasy and pure unadulterated BS for generations. So thorougly have americans habituated insanity, they no longer even notice overt lies. So thoroughly have americans embraced fascism, they consider the core ideas of liberty to be obscene.

Make no mistake, to elect Ron Paul president in 2008 *was* the last chance, and an extraordinarily slim chance at that, given the forces aligned against liberty. He would be a lamb in a lions den.

I planned to abandon ship before I learned Ron Paul was running, and I have not changed my plans. I encourage every single one of you to abandon ship before this titantic disaster goes vertical and starts heading straight downward. Liberty, freedom, individual rights are states of existence, not places. The USA you imagine is long, long gone. You've been living in the USSA for decades already. If it wasn't already obvious, the 3.11 trillion dollar budget is proof the USSA is being purposely destroyed, to make the population absolutely scream for any super-fascist "solution" to their shopping-mall misery. Why is the world not yet treating the USSA like the banana republic it is? Because it is a banana republic with nukes. That's it. But they're fed up, and they should be. So are we all.

Finally, I will note that we still do have about one chance in a million - though maybe that is a tad optimistic. What chance is that?

One last "money bomb". The kind of "money bomb" that might actually shake people up enough to consider an alternative - the only alternative who has spoken about the US economy "going bankrupt" at the debates.

If everyone in this forum sold all their stocks and bonds immediately (and buy gold with the revenue), it might just barely be enough - combined with the decline already in progress - push the markets over the edge. That is the only chance in a million left, and frankly, you are all better off holding real money (gold) than fictional, fantasy, fraudulant counterfiet money. In fact, what kind of supporter of liberty holds federal reserve notes, and thereby supports the corruption? :-(

One final money bomb? A *real* money bomb is what is called for.
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