Lucille
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“It’s Just A Matter of Time Before [Torture] Spills Back Into Domestic Territory..."
As an aside, when the read the defenders of torture in comments sections, they never talk about the value (or rather, lack of) of the information gleaned. They only bring up the brutality of their enemies. This leads me to believe that, for most Americans, it's about revenge.
http://www.strike-the-root.com/“it’...nto-domestic-territory-historically-it-always
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2014/12/why-us-embraced-torture.html
As an aside, when the read the defenders of torture in comments sections, they never talk about the value (or rather, lack of) of the information gleaned. They only bring up the brutality of their enemies. This leads me to believe that, for most Americans, it's about revenge.
http://www.strike-the-root.com/“it’...nto-domestic-territory-historically-it-always
"It always has…for thousands of years. Indeed, all of the facets of militarization abroad are coming home."
War always comes home.
Military and constitutional law expert Jonathan Turley notes:
[...]The cost of our torture program — and the failure to prosecute a single official for it (or the destruction of evidence and false statements revealed in its aftermath) will continue to cost this country dearly. Countries like Iran, North Korea, and China have already cited our use of waterboarding to defend against their own abuses. When our soldiers or citizens are waterboarded in the future, countries will play back Cheney’s words and others to say that such abuse is not torture. When we demand that officials in other countries be prosecuted for torture, they will mock our hypocrisy and own history.
[...]To practice torture is to self-identify as a repressive police state, even if the practice is reserved only for conduct outside one’s own borders. But it’s just a matter of time before it spills back into domestic territory. Historically, it always has.
It always has…for thousands of years.
Indeed, all of the facets of militarization abroad are coming home.
Postscript: Torture is already arguably occurring occurring in U.S. prisons.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2014/12/why-us-embraced-torture.html
I am astonished by the fact that those who are capable of grasping that government control of guns in the name of crime will inevitably be used against the people do not recognize that the government use of torture in the name of fighting terrorism will also be used against the people. And Millman's observation that support for torture is more a public statement about one's self-perceived toughness than anything else is particularly astute, and is supported by the language observed to be used by many of those who endorse torture.
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It's remarkable that anyone is still willing to defend the use of government torture, especially at a time when opposition to government gun control is at a two-decade high, having recovered 7 percentage points from the post-Sandy Hook dip. The libertarian rule is pretty simple. Don't permit the government anything you don't permit the citizenry. And don't permit the government to do anything you don't want it doing to any of its citizens.