It would have been Ron Paul-Kucinich [Citation needed]

[Lucille]

Is this something that Ron has said before? I can't recall it!

He would have won with this ticket, but I believe would have won with a Dem running mate or without.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...ea-party-needs-a-congress-a-home-and-a-leader

Former Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) said that if he won the nomination for president he would choose former Rep. Dennis Kucinich, a Democrat from Ohio, for his VP. It would have been an interesting choice, as both Paul and Kucinich were brave when it was time to be brave, and although Tea Party today is considered a grass-roots, state-based conservative uprising, it started well back into the George W. Bush administration. I came along with an essay titled “A states rights defense against Dick Cheney,” egging on New Hampshire’s “Free Staters,” in 2003 in a libertarian journal, and Paul was on the same page daily. His son, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, appears to be trying to go straight today to gather the center with 2016 in mind, but he might instead consider the long view and stay with the original Jeffersonian vision of states rights, sound money and constitutional government — and team up with Kucinich on foreign policy as his dad promised.

h/t http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/138395.html

 

[sailingaway]

In 2008 Kucinich said he'd pick Ron as his VP, and Ron spoke favorably of Dennis, but I didn't see him outright say he'd choose him as VP, but maybe he might have. In 2012, though, Ron said it would have to be decided later but maybe the Judge. He said that a few times. He always kept the caveat that he would want to decide later, but mentioned the Judge at least two or three times.

I think Ron would have had a very good chance of winning myself, if he had the nomination, but I don't discount the power of media smears in the general either. We certainly saw enough of them in the primary.

Ron did poll very well against Obama, though. Much better than the other nonestablishment candidates, even the pseudo ones.

 

[Carlybee]

Can people from different parties run on the same ticket?

 

[Christian Liberty]

Didn't see this thread when I posted mine. Feel free to merge.

Let me just say that I think Kucinich would be a horrible choice. He's not all bad, of course, but there's way better material out there.

 

[FrankRep]

Dennis Kucinich wasn't popular among the Democrats and Ron Paul would never win the primary with Kucinich.

 

[sailingaway]

Can people from different parties run on the same ticket?

Yes. They used to be separately elected even at one time, I believe.

Note that the succession/electoral college count breaker in the Constitution has the House picking one and the Senate picking the other which right there could end up with different parties.

 

[FrankRep]

Can people from different parties run on the same ticket?

They would be listed as the party they're representing, the Republican Party.

 

[phill4paul]

Ron would have won regardless of his running mate. The media blackout of his place in the primary would not have been able to happen in an election. Kucinich would have made a good running mate. Many independents (progressives) would have been swayed. The Reps would have still cheered for their "team" and a larger indie vote would have been brought in. That said I don't think it would have mattered who his running mate was had the RNC and media not torpedoed him.

 

[Christian Liberty]

I think you're average Evangelical social conservative could have stomached voting for Ron Paul, but Kucinich on the VP ticket might be too much for some. I think most mainstream Republicans would probably support Paul over a Democrat regardless.

But the ESTABLISHMENT would likely have endorsed Obama.

 

[sailingaway]

I think you're average Evangelical social conservative could have stomached voting for Ron Paul, but Kucinich on the VP ticket might be too much for some. I think most mainstream Republicans would probably support Paul over a Democrat regardless.

But the ESTABLISHMENT would likely have endorsed Obama.

Evangelicals are far less influential in the general election. But I think the Judge would have been a more winning choice. As long as it wasn't an establishment candidate, I would have been fine with it. I'd worry about him getting shot if he had Romney as his VP though. Look at Reagan...

 

[angelatc]

Evangelicals are far less influential in the general election. But I think the Judge would have been a more winning choice. As long as it wasn't an establishment candidate, I would have been fine with it. I'd worry about him getting shot if he had Romney as his VP though. Look at Reagan...

Dennis Kucinich is an anti-war socialist. I believe they would have shot Paul for a chance at the White House.

 

[sailingaway]

Dennis Kucinich is an anti-war socialist. I believe they would have shot Paul for a chance at the White House.

Never discount passion....

But my main point is that they aren't the same kind of concern electorally in the general, and my really main point is that I suspect the article writer is wrong saying Ron said he would have had Kucinich for VP. He mentioned him as someone in congress he worked with and respected, but I don't remember his ever coming out and saying 'Kucinich would be my VP' the way Kucinich said it of him. It is possible I missed something, but I think I would have seen that, at least in my retrospective research.

 

[Lucille]

I know you would have seen it if he had said it, sailing! I hope he cites the source at some point.

I changed the thread title.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Dennis Kucinich is an anti-war socialist. I believe they would have shot Paul for a chance at the White House.

As opposed to the Republican party, which is comprised of pro-war socialists?

Any way, Ron said in interviews that he'd have picked Kucinich in 08, so if he said the same thing again this time around it wouldn't be very surprising.

 

[sailingaway]

As opposed to the Republican party, which is comprised of pro-war socialists?

Any way, Ron said in interviews that he'd have picked Kucinich in 08, so if he said the same thing again this time around it wouldn't be very surprising.

Can you point me to where he said that in 2008? Because I only saw him saying who he respected in Congress and could work with, but not a definitive statement like that on Kucinich. In 2012 he also didn't get definitive, saying he's want to speak to others, but that the Judge was really good....

 

[revned]

I think Kucinich would have been a fine choice as VP. I don't agree with everything the guy has to offer, but at least he is anti war and actually a fairly good choice for a Democratic leader; in a perfect world it would have really been Paul vs. Kucinich, but in the reality we actually live in, these two must work together to show the public that there are in fact decent politicians on both sides. Would have made a lot of democrats jaws drop for the fact that a Republican would actually pick a democrat for a running mate. Probably would have increased the likelihood of undecideds or apathetic democrats to lean more toward Ron.

Has there ever been a Republican/Democrat ticket?

 

[Christian Liberty]

@Sailing- Well, yes I'd prefer Kucinich over Romney. But while Kucinich isn't really establishment, I think the oligarchs would rather have the welfare part of the welfare/warfare state than none of it. All that said, if Ron didn't want to have total security on him every second, he should pick Walter Block as VP. Nothing would guarantee him not getting killed than an ancap who wants to legalize voluntary slavery just waiting to beecome Pres...

Also, my problem with Kucinich isn't that he's a democrat. I like Bob Conley, he's not perfect but I do like him. Its the gun control and the socialist leaning economics that I object to, not his party.

 

[supermario21]

Judge Nap thinks abortion is first degree murder. He's also on FOX all the time. He would have been the best pick for the stereotypical Fox News conservative.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Judge Nap thinks abortion is first degree murder. He's also on FOX all the time. He would have been the best pick for the stereotypical Fox News conservative.

How is Judge Nap a "Typical Fox News Conservative?"

For the record, I agree with the Judge.

 

[sailingaway]

@Sailing- Well, yes I'd prefer Kucinich over Romney. But while Kucinich isn't really establishment, I think the oligarchs would rather have the welfare part of the welfare/warfare state than none of it. All that said, if Ron didn't want to have total security on him every second, he should pick Walter Block as VP. Nothing would guarantee him not getting killed than an ancap who wants to legalize voluntary slavery just waiting to beecome Pres...

Also, my problem with Kucinich isn't that he's a democrat. I like Bob Conley, he's not perfect but I do like him. Its the gun control and the socialist leaning economics that I object to, not his party.

I don't think he should have picked Kucinich, but I also don't think he DID pick Kucinich.