It appears that 50% of the people on this forum were Cruz supporters....

Most of the trolls are obvious, as far as lack of posting/readership that isn't a surprise due to Iowa results and Rand dropping out.
 
It doesn't help that some of us who are sympathetic to Cruz's cause got banned...

The writing was on the wall long ago. Several of us went to Cruz for one purpose. To stop Trump. I feel like there are a lot of Cruz people in the liberty movement who still like Rand, and I would be careful about alienating them. There are many elections after 2016 that we need to win together.

That's horse-crap.

We don't have to be careful about alienating people who support Goldman Sachs over Liberty. People who support making the sand glow over a rational foreign policy. People who support someone who will NEVER EVER become president because he is divisive instead of inclusive ? People who support a candidate who's campaign is one big dirty trick ? Cuz, don't forget. He announced knowing very well that he was going to take votes from Rand. Cruz is no friend of liberty. So people who support him are either conned into it or not principled and we could miss them.
 
The Cruz campaign figured out through testing how to leech the support from Rand- first, they gas up the anti-Bentonites and wait for the indictments happen. Then they use that as a wedge to split off the likely Rand 2016 voters from the ones leaning toward staying out of the political process. Then they launch their #1 most effective attack, using "We like Rand, but we don't think he can win. Cruz is almost like Rand, and Cruz can win". The #2 attack was "cozying up to the establishment", and "why doesn't Rand have Ron on the campaign trail?". Cruz actually used attack #1 in the debate when he was asked about playing Ron Paul videos at his rallies.
 
For everybody that criticizes Rand because he should have done it this way or that way - how bout you run for congress and do what you feel is best?

and then when you meet with defeat (always happens at some point) listen to all the armchair warriors who said coulda woulda shoulda..

if you can do better than Rand than go ahead - and if not, then try and be a little more empathic

No. You're right. We shouldn't criticize Obama. I mean... If we're gonna do that, then we need to go do better ourselves, right? Bush was awful. I shouldn't say it though, unless I'm gonna go do a better job.
 
If supporting Cruz on some level makes you a troll, this explains why Rand Paul didn't succeed this go-round--at least somewhat. Cruz is the closest one to Paul on many, many issues*. I'm currently too disgusted by his alleged comments on torture and NSA/Snowden (and "sand glow"), but remember Rand has said 'no pardon' for Snowden - and indicated he should be in jail. We gotta build bridges, folks.

*Calls for less intervention. Calls Rubio's foreign policy 'same as Hillary's.'
 
If supporting Cruz on some level makes you a troll, this explains why Rand Paul didn't succeed this go-round--at least somewhat. Cruz is the closest one to Paul on many, many issues*. I'm currently too disgusted by his alleged comments on torture and NSA/Snowden (and "sand glow"), but remember Rand has said 'no pardon' for Snowden - and indicated he should be in jail. We gotta build bridges, folks.

*Calls for less intervention. Calls Rubio's foreign policy 'same as Hillary's.'

Cruz is not building bridges.
 
too bad there was no way to weed these people out.

I've always been more interested in kneeding them in.

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my traffic will pick up when the Johnson subforum is added. I will add, as another item that may cast doubt on your observations that Cruz or Trump or Marco or whomever you may think someone here would "troll" for will not get my vote. I want to vote for peace and am tired of all these republicratic warmongers.

maybe i'll write in Amash or Ron again (Snowden isn't old enough) if the LP f#cks up.
 
This thread is interesting, because if you look at RPF's busiest day on the site it wasn't around when Rand announced or dropped out, or when Ron announced or dropped out. It was the day after Cruz announced he was running.
 
This thread is interesting, because if you look at RPF's busiest day on the site it wasn't around when Rand announced or dropped out, or when Ron announced or dropped out. It was the day after Cruz announced he was running.

Good catch. It's been apparent to frequent visitors that RPF ain't what it used to be.
 
I think the supporters of Ron Paul have been made apathetic again, I mean how many times can a person get burned by the process before they give up.
As an 07 er said they won't even be voting and they gave up on a corrupt political process, the 2012 primary was such a shame and humiliation right into the GOP convention that it could make anybody say %^&* it.
^^This, for me anyway. As for the new account, I have no idea about my past login info, it was lost long ago. I was starting to get back into things when Rand suspended unfortunately.
 
Someone not believing that everyone outside the Paul family should be called vulgar names and degraded constantly does not make that someone a "troll."
 
Actually. Can you run for President while in jail for defending the constitution against domestic enemies?

I don't see why not ...

Eugene Debs ran for president while he was in jail. He was convicted under the 1918 Sedition Act for opposing the draft during World War One.

He was a socialist, but I guess you could say he was defending the Constitution (at least the part about free speech) against "domestic enemies" (such as Woodrow Wilson) ...

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Considering the comments and drop in readership, it appears that at least 50% of the posters here were actually Cruz trolls and another 25% were Bernie or Dem trolls. This explains the popularity of the negative threads...too bad there was no way to weed these people out. I came here as a Rand supporter and it was a shock to read all of the negative comments written by people who were supposedly supporters. Now, I know that they never were. Too bad it too Rand dropping out to discover this.

I would at least like to hope after seeing just how dirty Ted Cruz is they changed their mind. But I'm not holding my breath. Sadly most cannot admit when they're wrong, human nature I suppose.
 
I want to make the record straight that I was a 100% anti-Empire troll. I'm surprised I have a positive rep. I must have grown on you! If the liberty message is watered down to the point of Cruz being viable then what is the point? Why not just be a Dondero neolibertarian and join hands with the Neocons and Christian Zionist? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-libertarianism
 
I don't see 50% of the people in here voting for Cruz in that recent RPF poll. Maybe 15% and some of them might have had Cruz as their second choice, hence minimal support on RPF.

So I don't believe the OP thread.

I don't support Cruz but at the same time he's not as bad as some of you make him out to believe.
 
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