It appears that 50% of the people on this forum were Cruz supporters....

I suspect that some of the other newbies may be similar to myself. I was not (and still am not) a true libertarian and I didn't support Ron in 08 or 12, but I have been a Rand supporter this cycle. (Yes, Cruz has been my second choice all along, but it's always been a distant second and only because he'd pick good judges.) IOW, I'm new not because I secretly want to troll Ron Paul fans, but because there wasn't a reason to sign up until Rand came along.

And it makes sense to me that readership is down. If you're a Republican who had Rand at the top of your list, but not the only name on your list, then you might migrate to a Cruz or Trump or whatever forum now that Paul's out.
 
I don't see 50% of the people in here voting for Cruz in that recent RPF poll. Maybe 15% and some of them might have had Cruz as their second choice, hence minimal support on RPF.

So I don't believe the OP thread.

I don't support Cruz but at the same time he's not as bad as some of you make him out to believe.

Come on, you're spoiling the OP hypothesis. ;)
 
I'm here because I hold Ron Paul and what he did in 2008 and 2012 dear to my heart. Rand was good, couldn't get as excited for him as I could his dad tho.

With Rand out, IDGAF about elections. Won't waste my time going to the polls. If I do it will be so I can write Ron Paul in (again.)
 
Actually, what it was was that he didn't pass the purity test for some around here. They are looking for the 2nd coming of Ron Paul.
Yeah, that's right.

Ron is the man who brought many of us here. Most of us, I would think. I can't speak for anyone else, but I merely tolerated Rand...he was much better than anyone else running, but he was no Ron.
 
Yeah, that's right.

Ron is the man who brought many of us here. Most of us, I would think. I can't speak for anyone else, but I merely tolerated Rand...he was much better than anyone else running, but he was no Ron.

I remember you accused me of being a cruz supporter. I guess I can understand that there were some undercover cruz people, but all I ever did was trash cruz. I will keep doing that too.

I actually preferred Rand slightly to Ron. I am not a doctrinaire libertarian, but rather, I see an opportunity for a pragmatic libertarianism which uses federalism and a privatized focus on morality to sort of bridge all the gaps of our stratified political system. But in order to get there, we are going to need a more polished candidate to hit that tipping point. Rand was not personable. My wife actually had dinner with Rand and Ron and a couple other surprising figures last year at a political function (not campaign related)....said she really likes the Pauls, but the wives are the ones who have the gift of gab. Is Rand a leader? Yes, intellectually he is brilliant. He is a great man. But I have to say, I kinda know how he feels, seeing an opportunity, but being unable to muster the words to make other people see it the same way.
 
This thread is interesting, because if you look at RPF's busiest day on the site it wasn't around when Rand announced or dropped out, or when Ron announced or dropped out. It was the day after Cruz announced he was running.

ah yes I remember that day, It was a bot attack with a group cycling thru IP addresses off a proxy (I was a mod at the time and could see this) and only viewing the forum index, always wondered what that was about, guess we know now
 
Not at all

Considering the comments and drop in readership, it appears that at least 50% of the posters here were actually Cruz trolls and another 25% were Bernie or Dem trolls. This explains the popularity of the negative threads...too bad there was no way to weed these people out. I came here as a Rand supporter and it was a shock to read all of the negative comments written by people who were supposedly supporters. Now, I know that they never were. Too bad it too Rand dropping out to discover this.


No thats not it at all, when a campaign is going people want to know all that is going on, when it ends, they come back every so often. I'm no Cruz supporter, but when Rand was running I was here every 30 min, now I'm here a couple times a day.
 
It doesn't help that some of us who are sympathetic to Cruz's cause got banned...

The writing was on the wall long ago. Several of us went to Cruz for one purpose. To stop Trump. I feel like there are a lot of Cruz people in the liberty movement who still like Rand, and I would be careful about alienating them. There are many elections after 2016 that we need to win together.

Have people really gotten banned from saying they like Cruz the best out of the remaining candidates? Ironic how the liberty movement is about free speech, but on these forums we sometimes suppress anyone who disagrees with what the majority spam constantly. Banning someone for having Cruz as a #2 choice is no different than Fox News suppressing Rand Paul by refusing to have any Libertarians on their panels.
 
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