Israel in Movies (history of American pro-Israel propaganda)

[ClaytonB]

Good watch, information-packed:

 

[acptulsa]

 

[Firestarter]

It is a well-known conspiracy that "the Jews" founded and control Hollywood...
I think that the Frankfurt School is arguably the most interesting to explain the brainwashing coming to a theatre near you.

The "Frankfurt School" was a group of German-American Jews who developed a method to destroy society as we know it, to makes the herd easier to control through a "quiet cultural revolution" that included:

1. The creation of racism offences; 2. Continual change to create confusion; 3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children; 4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority;
5. Mass immigration to destroy identity.; 6. The promotion of excessive drinking, 7. Emptying churches; 8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime;
9. Dependency on the state or state benefits; 10. Control and dumbing down of media; 11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family.

Needless to say that the Frankfurt School's dogma also promoted the radical feminist pronouncements that has dominated all major newspapers, television programmes and education (until it was overrun by the LGBT madness.

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Sep 10, 2023

Lord Bertrand Russell adopted the Frankfurt School's ideas for mass social engineering which he described in his 1951 book "The Impact of Science on Society".
Willi Munzenberg summed up the Frankfurt School’s goals with: "We will make the West so corrupt that it stinks".

In 1923 the "Institute" was officially established with funding from Felix Weil (1898-1975). One of the people involved with founding the Frankfurt School was the Jewish Hungarian banker son Georg Lukacs.
When Hitler came to power, the members of the Institut relocated to the US, where they infiltrated the major US...

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[ClaytonB]

It is a well-known conspiracy that "the Jews" founded and control Hollywood...

By keeping the focus on Israel itself, rather than an ill-defined people-group / religious-identity, it helps focus the discussion to the things that we can actually do something about (politically, etc.) Let "da Jooz" be ever-so-evil, conniving and hook-nosed (etc. etc. pick your favorite racial/ethnic stereotype), we don't actually have to care about any of that in order to talk about the undue influence of the state called Israel, in American politics. Israel is not a State of the Union but it has far more influence in Federal politics than any State does, or possibly even all States added together. One of the methods by which Israel influences American politics is through its connections in Hollywood which are objectively documented and require zero conspiracy theorization nor invoking of the archetypes of "da Jooz" held by certain mustachioed dictators of the 20th-century. In other words, all the reasons for which the ADL or SPLC would say that this topic is VERBOTEN are side-stepped by simply focusing attention on the state called Israel, rather than on a people-group / religious-identity. Frankfurters or no frankfurters.

I encourage people who are interested in this subject to shift their thinking away from old habits and start being more objective in their approach.



Generalizations are dangerous. Beware.

 

[Firestarter]

By keeping the focus on Israel itself, rather than an ill-defined people-group / religious-identity, it helps focus the discussion to the things that we can actually do something about (politically, etc.) Let "da Jooz" be ever-so-evil, conniving and hook-nosed (etc. etc. pick your favorite racial/ethnic stereotype), we don't actually have to care about any of that in order to talk about the undue influence of the state called Israel, in American politics. Israel is not a State of the Union but it has far more influence in Federal politics than any State does, or possibly even all States added together.

The Jews are one of the main topics in the video you posted, and then you blame me for posting more information on the Jewish influence over Hollywood?!?
I didn't post (or think) that "the Jews" in general are "evil"!

So you're saying that we must ignore that Israel is Jewish or what are you actually saying?!?
That we need political correctness because freedom of speech is dangerous?

The Frankfurt School is a good explanation of how Hollywood has perverted our morals, much better than the video you posted...

Youtube videos, like Hollywood movies, are effectively making us braindead, which makes freedom of thought impossible!
But still every smart fool watches the mind numbing stupidity, because sleepwalking seems easier than waking up.

 

[ClaytonB]

The Jews are one of the main topics in the video you posted,

Watch it again, carefully this time. It's not a screed against "the Jews", its criticism is directed specifically at the state called "Israel", and its NGO appendages influencing US domestic politics, like JDL, etc.

The devil is real, and he is maximally interested in counterfeiting the Jewish identity and smearing it with the insane depravity of the state of "Israel". The very use of the name "Israel", and associating this name with a State based on war crimes, is itself an antichrist act of the highest magnitude -- it is slander of God, by proxy.

The secular American political establishment think they understand what's going on. But they don't believe in the devil, let alone God, so they have no clue what is actually going on.

I didn't post (or think) that "the Jews" in general are "evil"!

OK, great. But the bigger issue is that convincing the world that the Jews are evil (in some generic sense, however you want to take that) is a primary strategic objective of the devil because he seeks to slander God and has been doing so continually since Genesis 3.

So you're saying that we must ignore that Israel is Jewish or what are you actually saying?!?

We must not ignore that Israel is NOT Jewish. That's the point! Listen to Rabbi Beck -- this man lives and breathes the traditional Judaism that stretches back 3,500+ years in an unbroken chain -- HE says, "Zionism and Judaism are exact opposites". The state of "Israel" is the precise opposite of Judaism! Orthodox Jews in Israel are regularly beaten by Israeli police and called "anti-government" in Israeli newspapers -- why? Because they hold that the state of Israel is goy, meaning, it is no different from any other government in the world. It is no more Jewish than a yuletide ham is.

The Frankfurt School is a good explanation of how Hollywood has perverted our morals, much better than the video you posted...

But it's not, because that whole CT just goes to accusing "da Jooz" (generically) of being "in on it", meaning, part of some ill-defined, global Jewish conspiracy to "take over da world" or whatever. Generic, mush-headed "Jooz R bad!!1!" BS. It is not "da Jooz" that are the problem, it is God-hating, anti-Scripture, anti-history, anti-tradition, antichrist false-zionism and its bastard child, the state of"Israel" that are the problem. And failing to distinguish between these two -- false-zionism and true Judaism -- is also part of the problem.

 

[acptulsa]

Well, it's a lot of interesting research and information, and I appreciate you for sharing it. I feel like the least I can do is agree, but the punch line seems a little contrived. God is the Sabbath? The Sabbath is the most important thing? Jesus specifically downplayed the importance of it as a lesson in what God's Law is and what it's for. Man isn't made to serve the Law, the Law is intended to serve man. If people are hungry on the Sabbath and you don't have enough leftovers ready to eat, of course you do the work to feed them.

I'm working up a little theory of my own, and it has the virtue of greater simplicity. Jesus, in His own time and to His own face, was called King of the Jews. He didn't really lay claim to the title, but it happened, and He's pretty well known by that even today.

And who lays claim to that role today? The Israeli government, that's who. These people:

But it's not, because that whole CT just goes to accusing "da Jooz" (generically) of being "in on it", meaning, part of some ill-defined, global Jewish conspiracy to "take over da world" or whatever. Generic, mush-headed "Jooz R bad!!1!" BS. It is not "da Jooz" that are the problem, it is God-hating, anti-Scripture, anti-history, anti-tradition, antichrist false-zionism and its bastard child, the state of"Israel" that are the problem. And failing to distinguish between these two -- false-zionism and true Judaism -- is also part of the problem.

Now there's a likely candidate for the false king of the Jews, the AntiChrist.

 

[ClaytonB]

Well, it's a lot of interesting research and information, and I appreciate you for sharing it. I feel like the least I can do is agree, but the punch line seems a little contrived. God is the Sabbath? The Sabbath is the most important thing? Jesus specifically downplayed the importance of it as a lesson in what God's Law is and what it's for. Man isn't made to serve the Law, the Law is intended to serve man. If people are hungry on the Sabbath and you don't have enough leftovers ready to eat, of course you do the work to feed them.

Well, seeing as I am literally the devil (according to you and your pals), not sure what's the point of trying to engage here.

No, the Sabbath is not the most important thing. Rabbi Beck is objectively wrong in his religious beliefs -- I imagine he denies that Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah, and that he is yet looking for some future messiah (opening himself to deception by the Antichrist). But the fact that he's objectively wrong about those things doesn't change the fact that he's at least walking the walk, and not just talking the talk. It's the same issue with every religion in the world -- there are plenty of televangelist/faker/hypocrite types in every religion in the world. And even if a particular religion has false beliefs, surely God morally distinguishes between the hypocrites among them, versus those who actually give alms and practice the truly righteous things taught by that religion -- universal piety.

If so-called Christians cannot make that distinction among those who claim to be Jews, then what sort of blindness is that? Who is more blind to hypocrisy than the hypocrite? One might speculate that God has chosen his people -- however ragtag and stubborn they themselves admit they are -- as a kind of universal Rorschach test for hypocrisy. Those who cannot see the difference between a Rabbi Beck who spends his free time doing hands-on charity work with mentally-handiciapped children, on the one hand, versus a false-zionist like Randy Fine with his advice to Gazan children to "Starve Away" , on the other hand, evince that they themselves are trapped in spiritual darkness. The contrast between good and evil can hardly be made any more stark than this. If you cannot see even such a bleak contrast, there's something spiritually wrong with you.

 

[acptulsa]

Well, seeing as I am literally the devil (according to you and your pals)...

I beg your pardon? What are you talking about?

Are you still butthurt because some of us told you the gospel truth about your presidential candidate? I admit we told you in no uncertain terms. But how were we wrong?

I'm addressing the OP, and probably should have said so. I quoted you because you encapsulated and crystalized my thoughts, and I thought quoting you more polite than plagiarizing you. You really put Israel ruling the Jews like a king into my head and made me think about that government as an, or perhaps the, anti-Christ. You pointed out a new angle to me with that thought you posted, the Counterfeit Kings of the Jews. I really, really wasn't trying to start an argument.

Rabbi Beck is objectively wrong in his religious beliefs

I was really trying to be more polite to the OP, and less absolutist. All any of us can lay claim to is opinions until God's ready to reveal all. But yeah, I expressed a sentiment that wasn't dissimilar.

 

[acptulsa]

If you cannot see even such a bleak contrast, there's something spiritually wrong with you.

Dude. When have I ever said different? Man, I just put the Israeli government up as a frontrunner candidate for The Anti Christ.

Am I making any sense? Are you reading what I typed, or reading stuff into it?

 

[ClaytonB]

I beg your pardon? What are you talking about?

According to jmdrake, I am literally the devil (he minced no words on that point). And he believes in the devil, so that is no casual insult, he was -- for reasons known only to himself -- calling me evil incarnate. And you butted into that conversation and confirmed him. That discussion had nothing to do with Trump. So you are all on ignore. If you have some other actual opinion, or misspoke, feel free to clarify. Or, stay on ignore. Your choice.

You really put Israel ruling the Jews like a king into my head and made me think about that government as an, ir perhaps the, anti-Christ. I really, really wasn't trying to start an argument.

More accurately, it is the throne of the coming Antichrist (who will be a man). It is fulfilling the prophecies of Matthew 24, 2 Thessalonians 2, Daniel, Revelation, etc. point-by-point, to an absolute T -- before our very eyes. All the while, hordes of false-professing "Christians" are cheering it on. Satan's apostles (2 Cor. 11:13-15) have always been hidden among the believers... but they're stripping off their camo as we speak.

I was really trying to be more polite to the OP, and less absolutist. All any of us can lay claim to is opinions until God's ready to reveal all.

No, it is not just opinion. That's actually part of the point. The Gospel is God's ultimatum to a doomed world: Repent or perish. Those who are spiritually blind take this as some kind of religious imperialism... the carnal mind sees it as just another form of climbing over the skulls of your crushed enemies in a bid to take the top-spot or, at worst, become a Beta for the one who does.

When I (and other believers) preach the Gospel, we're not telling you our opinion about things, as though there is some other, similar opinion held by other confused people, and nobody knows for sure what is true, we're all equally blind and equally groping about. No. Preaching is a proclamation (Romans 15:16, etc.), that is, it is a warning and ultimatum to a doomed world, and we who preach it are merely emissaries from the living God, who is about to destroy this entire world in a cosmic conflagration (2 Peter 3:7). We are not better than anybody else by virtue of proclaiming the truth, we are ourselves but cooled embers plucked from the flames of doom, begging all others to escape while there is yet time. This is not "opinion", it's proclamation. Stated another way, every time you hear the Gospel, that is a "data-point", part of a message sent from God, to you. Listen, or don't. That is the choice, and the stakes are eternal...

 

[acptulsa]

And you butted into that conversation and confirmed him.

I have a vague notion of what you're talking about. I'd go see which other part it was of his argument that I agreed with, but I couldn't find it to save my life. It wasn't the part where he called you that, but whatever's best for your blood pressure.

I never endorsed that position, but I must say you're the damndest character I ever encountered for making a body defend himself for daring to agree with you.

And only an arrogant man claims to be privy to every aspect of God's plan. I may act like I know what men are up to, but I'm more or less as smart as them. I have no pretense at all about being smart enough to speak outright for God, or to understand His every strategy. And I don't recommend it to others.

 

[acptulsa]

Oh, I see what caused the mixup. This one's on me. I was trying to move ClaytonB's quote to Redmod79's thread in a different subforum, and I totally failed. Moving a quote to another thread was easier with the old software.

Sorry for derailing this thread.

No wonder I feel like I'm being taken out of context. I never got myself into context. My bad.

 

[ClaytonB]

And only an arrogant man claims to be privy to every aspect of God's plan.

Where did I say "every part"? I know the part that God wants me to know ... but the point is that I'm not merely sharing an "opinion" about that part of God's plan... it is actually God's plan, meaning, the Gospel is binding and authoritative on everyone who hears it. "In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent." (Acts 17:30) We have received orders from headquarters, it's right there in black-and-white for anybody to read. Pretending that there may have been other, conflicting transmissions from headquarters is just rebellion and disobedience. There is no "guessing" or "opinion" involved -- the Gospel is God's power on earth (Romans 1:16, Matthew 28:18, etc.), and uniquely so (Acts 4:12).

speak outright for God

When God chooses to speak, he does not ask the opinion of his mouthpiece(s)... He just speaks through them whether they like it or not. Moses. Jonah. Daniel. Isaiah. Hosea. Paul. The list goes on and on...

 

[acptulsa]

Where did I say "every part"?

You didn't. But when the Bible says antichrists or The anti-Christ it names no names. But I agree that the Zionist government is, at least, one of the antichrists.

And I apologize. It was as if I was talking to Redmod and looking you in the eye. That's confusing as hell. I wasn't trying to do that.

 

[ClaytonB]

You didn't. But when the Bible says antichrists or The anti-Christ it names no names. But I agree that the Zionist government is, at least, one of the antichrists.

And I apologize. It was as if I was talking to Redmod and looking you in the eye. That's confusing as hell. I wasn't trying to do that.

No problem... I've done that also... text forum medium has its limitations and sometimes things get scrambled...

 

[ClaytonB]

If you understand the importance of this issue, this is the most important 15 minutes you can invest on better understanding it:



And if you want to do deep-dive: