Israel bans use of ultra-skinny models

[onlyrp]

Not really true. Both cause the same sort of diseases and defects, in large part, other than obesity being more likely to lead to Type 2 Diabetes. Then again, bone fractures are very common among anorexics, and tooth issues are quite fast to appear.

Genuinely anorexic people are not "pretty" at all.

Nobody said they're pretty, but anorexia can fixed by injecting and forcing food and nutrition down them. Try force releasing fat, artery clogs or hardened hearts. Anorexia can also be fixed FASTER when there's a threat of death, try scaring a person into losing weight, they couldn't even if they wanted to.

 

[MelissaWV]

I might also add, this doesn't address women who are naturally skinny, nor does the "obese" label address women whose natural weight renders them a bit thicker than their skinny counterparts. You can be healthy at a pretty broad range of weights. Radical fluctuations in weight, nutrition, etc., are more likely to mess you up than just understanding how you're supposed to be built. This could be becoming anorexic, or it could be eating processed garbage daily until you're 300 pounds, then shooting down to 225, then going back up, and so on.

It should be up to the agencies to hire whomever they want, and up to the consumers of fashion-related nonsense to decide if it's worth paying attention to.

Then again, it's Israel. I don't live there.

 

[onlyrp]

I might also add, this doesn't address women who are naturally skinny, nor does the "obese" label address women whose natural weight renders them a bit thicker than their skinny counterparts.

That may be, but as you admitted, they are outside of the norm.

You can be healthy at a pretty broad range of weights. Radical fluctuations in weight, nutrition, etc., are more likely to mess you up than just understanding how you're supposed to be built.

Yes, but if you can't understand how you're built would you rather drink salad oil or eat salad?

This could be becoming anorexic, or it could be eating processed garbage daily until you're 300 pounds, then shooting down to 225, then going back up, and so on.

Is anybody ever healthy at 300 pounds? Is anybody ever healthy at 300 pounds but 5 ft?

It should be up to the agencies to hire whomever they want, and up to the consumers of fashion-related nonsense to decide if it's worth paying attention to.

Then again, it's Israel. I don't live there.

Just like it's up to children to decide whether they want to be cool and smoke if the advertisements show it.

 

[MelissaWV]

Nobody said they're pretty, but anorexia can fixed by injecting and forcing food and nutrition down them. Try force releasing fat, artery clogs or hardened hearts. Anorexia can also be fixed FASTER when there's a threat of death, try scaring a person into losing weight, they couldn't even if they wanted to.

I think you have a very limited understanding of what happens to an anorexic's body. Various surgeries can also be used to "fix" people who are hugely overweight. In both instances, the body no longer absorbs nutrients correctly, there is incredible strain on organs and joints, and there are issues with skin and teeth and hair. Organ failure is quite common among both extremes. Force feeding will have mixed results. Someone overweight who has cholesterol problems and the like will get a bypass or two or five. Neither side is "healthier."

 

[onlyrp]

I think you have a very limited understanding of what happens to an anorexic's body.

That is correct, and I think you can also admit there's far less people who are underweight or anorexic than vice versa as a problem. Wonder why?

Various surgeries can also be used to "fix" people who are hugely overweight.

Yep, which is expensive and takes time. Nothing like forcing a feeding tube.

In both instances, the body no longer absorbs nutrients correctly, there is incredible strain on organs and joints, and there are issues with skin and teeth and hair. Organ failure is quite common among both extremes. Force feeding will have mixed results. Someone overweight who has cholesterol problems and the like will get a bypass or two or five. Neither side is "healthier."

What is the anorexic or underweight equivalent to bypass surgery? I will also add, unless you are homeless and handicapped to begin with, anorexia or underweight, malnutrition is much easier to discover before its FUBAR, whereas obesity, whether you're 20, 50, 100, 200 pounds over weight, it's always harder.

Put it this way, a person can't be more than 50lbs underweight and alive. But a person can easily be 100lbs overweight and society refuses to ridicule him because that hurts his feelings. There's much more room to be overweight than underweight, so the "Extremes" are nothing alike.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

FWIW, I find gaining weight harder than losing it. With some lifestyle adjustments I went from 195 to 140 in 2-3 years or so. My goal now is ~200, lean. (I'm at ~150 now)

 

[onlyrp]

FWIW, I find gaining weight harder than losing it. With some lifestyle adjustments I went from 195 to 140 in 2-3 years or so. My goal now is ~200, lean. (I'm at ~150 now)

is it the gaining itself, or are you at the same time fearing the side effects of weight gain? I have the same "problem", but I would say I fear being heavy or overweight, otherwise I'd drink salad oil like I drink water if I was guaranteed zero negative effects.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

If people end up paying for their choices, they have every right to prevent it. If Israel is a libertarian society with no social health safety net, then it would be nice to say all people are entitled to choose their lifestyle, as long as they pay for their own consequences. But if society is either obligated or promised to save everybody for their mistakes, why wouldn't it be justified to prevent them?

Israel is the (current) model for the US legal system and society in general, so this will no doubt have an effect here. Libertine, but not libertarian.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Neither side is "healthier."

Yep. Both are incarnations of addiction and obsession.

Legislating and regulating them is just a symptom of totalitarianism.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

is it the gaining itself, or are you at the same time fearing the side effects of weight gain? I have the same "problem", but I would say I fear being heavy or overweight, otherwise I'd drink salad oil like I drink water if I was guaranteed zero negative effects.

No, I'm purposely bulking up. I do 2 full body workouts 3X a week. It's the gaining itself, really. Till I began training last year, I didn't know how to keep mass on, but shedding fat is pretty easy.

 

[eduardo89]

No, I'm purposely bulking up. I do 2 full body workouts 3X a week. It's the gaining itself, really. Till I began training last year, I didn't know how to keep mass on, but shedding fat is pretty easy.

Same here, I have a lot of trouble gaining weight, but I think it's my age and metabolism. My dad was the same until he hit 30-ish, then he inflated like a balloon until he realized he wasn't 25 anymore and couldn't eat everything he wanted.