Isn't it creepy that Fox News and Glenn Beck are stalking this message board?

[Jordan]

Free market capitalism

This.

 

[Deborah K]

Uhm....
Google Search for "fema camp": about 63,100 .

Google Search for "MIAC Report": about 24,600.

No, couldn't possibly be hearing about that stuff anywhere besides RPF or Infowars.... I heard about the supposed "fema camps" well before ronpaulforums existed.

Off this topic: FEMA camps are even talked about in the TV series 'Jericho'. I think everyone just wishes to ignore the 800 pound gorilla in the room.

 

[Kraig]

Off this topic: FEMA camps are even talked about in the TV series 'Jericho'. I think everyone just wishes to ignore the 800 pound gorilla in the room.

Too bad I am going to end up in one of those.

 

[apropos]

Some are concerned because the message is becoming more mainstream. But how can our stated goals be realized without popular acceptance? We ourselves are not in the positions the Founding Fathers occupied - they were in the key positions of power in 1776. They could get by with only 3% of the population on their side.

Wider acceptance and exposure is a great thing that we need more of, and it far outweighs any negative as of now. True, everyone has an agenda, but what we need right now is an opening to transmit the ideas.

 

[Deborah K]

Does anyone have any proof that they are, in fact, reading this forum? All the stories they have been talking about, they could have found the information from plenty of other sources. I think it's a bit arrogant to assume that they are sitting around all day reading our posts.

I've sent them links to this forum on numerous occasions. Anyone else?

 

[Deborah K]

Too bad I am going to end up in one of those.

Why??

 

[Kraig]

Why??

Oh I'm just being cynical and saying that not everyone is ignoring it. What can be done though?

 

[Deborah K]

Oh I'm just being cynical and saying that not everyone is ignoring it. What can be done though?

Expose the camps, once and for all. That oughta do it.

 

[akihabro]

Last Year: Waaah, The mainstream media is ignoring us.


This Year: Waaah, The mainstream media is copying us and using our ideas.

Next year Waah, We are the media and no one is listening to us.

 

[eOs]

Again Conza, Sean Hannity and Rush and [insert republican here] were moving towards "Libertarianism" back when Obama won the election. Your prediction was almost 3 months late...they started their whole liberty and free market movement back in November, your whole prediction was made in late January.

Who the hell couldn't see this? Should we pat you on the back for pointing out the obvious?? It was pretty clear Sean Hannity would be trying to defend the free market view when he denounced Obama as being a socialist.

Again, I'm still not impressed. Congratulations for pointing out that Fox News would be anti-Obama when every other news station was guaranteed to be pro-Obama. It's whatever sells tickets, and all that Murdoch cares about is doing that. If Fox News could make more money by attracting more views by promoting Obama and bowing to him, they would quickly be pro-Obama. Considering Glenn Beck's show is the highest rated news show on TV, what incentive would he have in supporting Obama? Why do you think Murdoch signed Beck back in 2008 to join Fox News? Because he knew Beck would appeal to Ron Paulians. I thought that was pretty obvious, but I guess it took people like yourself several weeks before you spoke out after you saw the writing on the wall...

You're not as clever as you think you are. You think being loud is self-justifying.

Meanwhile, how are your stock picks coming along?? Since you know everything about everything, you should be outperforming the top hedge funds that made triple-digit returns in a matter of a week. Oh that's right...your crystal ball only points out the obvious...it can predict things after they happen, but not before. Hindsight is 20/20

I have to agree..Although Conza was the first to point it out in a decent way.

 

[Conza88]

Again Conza, Sean Hannity and Rush and [insert republican here] were moving towards "Libertarianism" back when Obama won the election. Your prediction was almost 3 months late...they started their whole liberty and free market movement back in November, your whole prediction was made in late January.

Nope. George Bush was in power, they defended the bailouts. "Something needs to be done" etc.

It's as soon as Obama got into office, it all "changed".

Your revisionist history fails.

Who the hell couldn't see this? Should we pat you on the back for pointing out the obvious?? It was pretty clear Sean Hannity would be trying to defend the free market view when he denounced Obama as being a socialist.

No, see that's all you can do = obfuscate what my point was. You are demented. And deliberately misconstruing my whole thesis of the thread; AGAIN. You've just re-iterated what you said the first time, then I refuted it - then you address NONE of it, and you then spew the same BS you started with.

Fail.

You're missing the whole point of the thread.

It's not about them attacking Obama, it's about them associating themselves with US, Libertarians, the REAL revolutionaries. Trying to corrupt and blend the differences between Libertarians and Neo-Conservatives...

Was directed at Beck...

Did you think, that Sean Hannity would call himself a Libertarian? And Defend Ron Paul?

Did you think Rush Limbaugh would say, "I love Ron Paul"

Did you think Ann Coulter would vocalize Support for Ron Paul?

I did. It's not amazing if you know the method's and the enemies modus operandi.

Tools like you have no idea what is going on though...

Figures.

Again, I'm still not impressed. Congratulations for pointing out that Fox News would be anti-Obama when every other news station was guaranteed to be pro-Obama. It's whatever sells tickets, and all that Murdoch cares about is doing that. If Fox News could make more money by attracting more views by promoting Obama and bowing to him, they would quickly be pro-Obama. Considering Glenn Beck's show is the highest rated news show on TV, what incentive would he have in supporting Obama? Why do you think Murdoch signed Beck back in 2008 to join Fox News? Because he knew Beck would appeal to Ron Paulians. I thought that was pretty obvious, but I guess it took people like yourself several weeks before you spoke out after you saw the writing on the wall...

You're not impressed, because you don't want to understand.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2044807&postcount=40

^ This whole post = you ignored it. I am merely re-pasting stuff here, and it fits pretty much verbatim. Keep trying, maybe you'll learn to think one day.

LMFAO! You think that there wasn't money to be made back in the primaries? Are you fcken idiotic? We had 10x times the people on the forums, and everywhere.... we were potentially viral in every regard.

THEY TRIED TO SILENCE US. SHOOT US DOWN. CENSORSHIP. BLACK WALLED US. MEDIA BLACK OUT. WHO DOES, WHEN THEY WANT TO MAKE MONEY? They killed the biggest marketing opportunity to present itself this side of the millennium.

The Ron Paul story is made for a movie. The Honest Politician.

WITH A FLICK OF THE SWITCH, with NOTHING changing besides the letter (R) to (D), it was like there was suddenly OMG BAILOUTS have just been happening, forget Bush and all republicans voting for first, OMG NO WAR ON TERROR, CHANGE n stuff... So far from reality.

Ron Paul - EXCLUDED from the Fox News debate just before the New Hampshire debate in the primaries. When it mattered MOST. When there was millions to be made from Ron Paul viewers and increased money from advertisers.

Your thesis fails remarkably.

You're not as clever as you think you are. You think being loud is self-justifying.

No I think being right is.

Meanwhile, how are your stock picks coming along?? Since you know everything about everything, you should be outperforming the top hedge funds that made triple-digit returns in a matter of a week. Oh that's right...your crystal ball only points out the obvious...it can predict things after they happen, but not before. Hindsight is 20/20

"If you're such a genius, why aren't you rich" fallacy

Obama's inauguration was on the 20th of January. I posted that on the 27th. I realised what they were doing at the start of the week. And yes I thought it was obvious, but then I started seeing "Glen Beck is one of us" posts and I got pissed off, no-one else was seeing it. So I wrote that thread to explain it.

And I'm not even in the United States. I'm 12,000 miles away.

How about them apples?

 

[Conza88]

In particular; I will focus on Fox News.

Since the President has changed, the party has changed, the INTENDED perception has changed, so does the media's overt agenda for each channel.

For the last 8 years Fox News has blatantly been pro-war, pro-fascism, pro-bush, pro-whatever they were told to be.

In those 8 years, it became to be seen for what it was - a propaganda network. It WASN'T just limited to them, but they were the obvious douchebags, they were the ones defending the state, the wars, Bush, etc.

Now, over the same last few years, in particular, all the attacks of Bush etc.... have been coming from the likes of Keith Olberman, MSNBC, etc. all the "lefties".

During this time, they gained credibility etc. Denounced wars, whatever. They "told it like it is". No real obvious "propaganda". (Obviously MASSIVE AMOUNTS, I'm just taking this from a laymans perspective... the general sheeple, who are now following Obama like drones)

Anyway, now that Obama is President, the script is going to flip.

MSNBC, CNN, Hardball, Olberman etc. THEY will become the propaganda outlets. THEY will be the NEW FAUX NEWS!

They speak out against the regime, when their "side" is not in power. NOTHING ever gets done, its all chatter in the wind, it SEEMS like there is vocal opposition to the status quo, but it really means jack squat.

This is why Glenn Beck moved to Fox News. They are now the ANTI-STATUS QUO CHANNEL. See his show? He's calling government

Glenn Beck Seems to Understand
Posted by Thomas DiLorenzo at January 27, 2009 07:58 AM

This morning on Faux News he said, "the government has become just like the mob." He was referring to how the Fed ORDERED several banks to take bailout money, and then ORDERED them to lend it. He also used the "S" word to describe Obama's "economic plan."

Funny how Faux News supported Bushian fascism with every ounce of its energy, but is now becoming a critic of a slightly different form of socialism.​

- http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/025007.html

This is, there ain't nothing funny about it. FISHY is more like it.

So expect to start questioning yourself when Fox News actually say shit that makes sense, like Libertarian style stuff. (Won't be all the time, but more so than ever) Like actual Conservative, Glen Beck type of comments. All the trolls [will] start to appear ok. It is because they are the new anti-status quo channel, who won't do shit against the other tide of public opinion and media.

People go, Fox News attacking Obama? Yeah, no wonder they supported Iraq, Bush, Neocons etc. They'll instantly dismiss whatever it is, and kling to the MSNBC, CNN BULLSHIT that will be thrown at them.

It is all part of the false paradigm. It is all coerced. It doesn't "just" happen.

Then the trolls came out.. Now, can you get that into your thick skull, so I can at least stop quoting myself...

 

[moostraks]

Then the trolls came out.. Now, can you get that into your thick skull, so I can at least stop quoting myself...

Hey Conza, I haven't read through your thread yet, but so far I agree with what you are quoting/requoting here. Not sure if that helps you any but you are not alone in thinking this.^^^^^

 

[acptulsa]

Next year Waah, We are the media and no one is listening to us.

Already there.

 

[Josh_LA]

The current system is not Capitalism, it is fascism. You fail remarkably.

Calling it fascism doesn't make it so. not that I don't think capitalism and fascism has something in common.

Fascism is just government bought out in the name of capitalism, capitalism is just people looking out for their own interests.

 

[Josh_LA]

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Oh, you didn't? That's sad.

Yes, I didn't, I'm not naive like you to think things would get better for the right reasons, nor would I expect people in power to give it up without either profit or threat.

Thanks for quoting Sun Tzu, further proof might makes right and game theory.

 

[Josh_LA]

You're not impressed, because you don't want to understand.

No, he's not impressed because your endless blabbering is not about facts or news, it's about you being right and you telling yourself you found something, when some of us knew it all along.

Boy it sucks being you always needing to validate yourself with others. When you can't have a good argument, throw up some nasty words like FASCISM, COLLECTIVISM, SOCIALISM and scream FAIL FAIL FAIL.

 

[axiomata]

Beck is actually just stalking me. It appears he is stalking these forums because I am here. At a whole nother forum, someone had mentioned that the auto bailouts was evidence of creeping socialism yesterday. I countered that it was more accurately creeping fascism and quoted Sheldon Richman's economics encyclopedia entry on fascism.

Today Beck's opening monologue said he was wrong about us being on a road to socialism/communism and it now appeared that we were on the road to fascism. And he brought Richman on as his first guess to discuss it.

So hyeah, he's stalking me. I'm that important.