Isn't it creepy that Fox News and Glenn Beck are stalking this message board?

If Beck's show is useful in getting parts of our message out, then I am all for it.

In the meantime, it is necessary to be watchful that our message is not twisted for nefarious causes. So far, Beck is doing okay for the most part.

It is merely up to us to be vigilant and promote ourselves as legitimate mainstream politics, not the aberrant neocon view or fringe sideshow view.

I believe people are listening to at least some of what Beck says on his show and are waking up to some extent. He certainly has some of the right people on his show.

He has a huge audience and did he not climbe quickly to the third most-watched in just a few weeks? We need his audience. :)
 
It's far from plagiarism, and it's essentially everything you could possibly ask for.

Even if it were plagiarism, if I were to write an essay on my ideas and it was copied word for word on national television without so much as a little credit given to me for it, I'd have a hard time bringing myself to sue simply because the word was spread.

The last thing you want is to be afraid of being mainstream. If anything embrace it. It hurts, yeah, but it's essentially everything you worked for.
 
It's far from plagiarism, and it's essentially everything you could possibly ask for.

Even if it were plagiarism, if I were to write an essay on my ideas and it was copied word for word on national television without so much as a little credit given to me for it, I'd have a hard time bringing myself to sue simply because the word was spread.

The last thing you want is to be afraid of being mainstream. If anything embrace it. It hurts, yeah, but it's essentially everything you worked for.


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nice introduction to the forum my friend.
 
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The forums have officially jumped the shark.:D
 
The OP is obviously distractionary and intentionally misleading.

This forum has been polluted with anarchists and far left zealots couching their true intentions behind "libertarianism." Most of these extremists look to what they see as the permissiveness as opportunity.

I take the title of this thread as pure cowardice and purely authoritarian. The OP only speaks for an extreme component of far off zealots who have hijacked Ron Paul's message. The same types of folks who supported Ron Paul only to cause disruption in the Republican party then went on to vote for Obama. For many of these wackos Ron Paul forums is nothing more than a stop over from the Democratic Underground.

opportunity indeed, you fear the consequences of freedom?
 
Nope, fail.

You're missing the whole point of the thread. God you are thick.

It's not about them attacking Obama, it's about them associating themselves with US, Libertarians, the REAL revolutionaries. Trying to corrupt and blend the differences between Libertarians and Neo-Conservatives...

That's how capitalism works, brand and lie to make money and get support.


Was directed at Beck...

Did you think, that Sean Hannity would call himself a Libertarian? And Defend Ron Paul?

Did you think Rush Limbaugh would say, "I love Ron Paul"

Did you think Ann Coulter would vocalize Support for Ron Paul?

I did. It's not amazing if you know the method's and the enemies modus operandi.
You did? Sad.

Tools like you have no idea what is going on though...

Figures. :rolleyes:

You said you thought the above?? Yeah, you really know what's going on, keep your faith in humanity.
 
If Beck's show is useful in getting parts of our message out, then I am all for it.

I agree, which is why I don't mind being called a racist or liberal or socialist, if something is right, it should be said and done.

In the meantime, it is necessary to be watchful that our message is not twisted for nefarious causes. So far, Beck is doing okay for the most part.

Yes, always know good intentions can be misused.

It is merely up to us to be vigilant and promote ourselves as legitimate mainstream politics, not the aberrant neocon view or fringe sideshow view.

I believe people are listening to at least some of what Beck says on his show and are waking up to some extent. He certainly has some of the right people on his show.

He has a huge audience and did he not climbe quickly to the third most-watched in just a few weeks? We need his audience. :)
no, his audience needs the message (I tried not to say "us"). His audience needs to start looking and asking.
 
Glenn Beck, if you are trolling this forum, I am righteously pissed off at you for trying to debunk the FEMA camps with that neo con shill from Popular Mechanics...you are endangering the American People by doing this. TONES
 
The Republican party is in complete disarray. They must mend the differences between their 3 major factions: 1) Neo-cons, 2) God people, 3) People like us.

They are trying to tempt us back into the Republican fold, don't fall for it. Unless they run a good candidate, we're obviously not going to vote for them just because Fox is becoming more sympathetic to own side. The fact is, that they would slam Ron Paul just as hard as during the primaries if he were close to winning the nomination in 2012. Don't be suckered by this. Fox is not on our side long-term.
 
Ya, rightist media pundits like Hannity providing covering fire for a republican president while a firing squad for the democrat president, and then vice versa for leftist media pundits like Olberman is really incredible prediction powers you have there.

How stupid does a person have to be not to be able to see that the neocons were out of ammunition, and that we are not? Are you seriously saying that the people on this forum deserve no credit for that?
 
Murdoch is not running Fox just to make a buck. Television, radio, newspapers and movies are not entrepreneurial endeavors started up to make money. They require large amounts of capital to get started. They are started by people who already have a lot of money, or access to it.

Generally, the purpose of media operations is not to make money, but to INFLUENCE.

William Randolph Hearst was not an entrepreneur who got rich in the newspaper industry. He was the multimillionaire heir to a vast fortune who spent years burning through his mother's capital before he finally turned a profit -- and rose to a position of immense influence. He angered his competitors for upsetting their apple cart, and to this day he is smeared by people who run media for international banking interests, which he was independent of because his father discovered one of the largest silver lodes in the world.

Some of the biggest money making movies of all time are about Jesus Christ. But look at the heat Mel Gibson took for making a Passion of the Christ -- a massive money maker. If the movie-makers were all about money, we'd have a Jesus Christ blockbuster every summer, and a whole lot more big-budget movies with Christian themes. And more patriotic movies, too. Instead, we get money loser after money loser with decidedly anti-Christian and anti-American themes that alienate much of the public.

Holocaust movie after Holocaust movie. Nazis as villians. Are the Nazis and the Holocaust central to American history and American identity? How did these themes come to dominate our media?

Instead of the next John Wayne, we get Adam Sandler every summer. Oliver Stone gets access to hundreds of millions for his films. The strong American hero has been replaced by British or Australian males, or clowns. (Can't have another Ronald Reagan using his popularity brought by the Hollywood spotlight to rise to political power.)

Murdoch owes his rise to Jewish bankers aligned with the Likud party, who broke from the left. In America, Murdoch supports the neocons who infilitrated the Republican Party. Most of the rest of the media is aligned with leftists, or neo-liberals, who have monopolized the Democratic Party.

So our media choice is between Democrats aligned with Zionists (CNN and MSNBC), or kill-them-all Republicans aligned with Zionists (FOX).

Murdoch is of the kill-them-all variety.

Where Beck is going I don't know. But as long as he works for Murdoch, you can bet he will not bite the hand that feeds. Hannity has actually said this on the air -- that he doesn't understand populist anger at the rich because he is so grateful to rich people because he is well-compensated by a rich man.

Maybe Murdoch and his backers sense that Ron Paul has tapped into something, just as the America First Committee did in the 1930s. Murdoch did his best to blackball and discredit Ron Paul during the election just as Ron Paul was gaining traction. Beck was a part of this smear.

Maybe the strategy now is to bring us under the tent and expend our energy on the left, instead of turning it on people like Murdoch, who no doubt will cheerlead the next Middle East war when it comes.

It's Democrat versus Republican. We expend our energies fighting each other, instead of pursuing our mutual interests, which are not in the Middle East, and are counter to those of the international elite. Murdoch is one of the international elite.

I agree.
 
The Republican party is in complete disarray. They must mend the differences between their 3 major factions: 1) Neo-cons, 2) God people, 3) People like us.

They are trying to tempt us back into the Republican fold, don't fall for it. Unless they run a good candidate, we're obviously not going to vote for them just because Fox is becoming more sympathetic to own side. The fact is, that they would slam Ron Paul just as hard as during the primaries if he were close to winning the nomination in 2012. Don't be suckered by this. Fox is not on our side long-term.

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I would fall flat on my face if Fox news endorsed Paul, of course my face won't ever reach the dirt, 'cause I have full faith that Fox isn't interested in Ron Paul 2012.
 
That's how capitalism works, brand and lie to make money and get support.

The current system is not Capitalism, it is fascism. You fail remarkably.

You did? Sad.

Oh, you didn't? That's sad.

If ignorant both of your enemy and yourself, you are certain to be in peril.
Sun Tzu

All warfare is based on deception.
Sun Tzu

All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved.
Sun Tzu

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.
Sun Tzu
Thus, what is of supreme importance in war is to attack the enemy's strategy.-Sun Tzu​

Exposing it, is a start.

You said you thought the above?? Yeah, you really know what's going on, keep your faith in humanity.

The Future is Calling...

Report from Iron Mountain. I'm just going from what they've said they would do. The only person testing my faith in humanity, is you.
 
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Becoming mainstream is painful for some people. I use to see it all the time when I was booking underground music acts and then they became mainstream and on the radio and things like that and you get a part of their fans saying how they sold out blah blah blah. But the whole point was to get mainstream and make money.

You see the same thing from Ron Paul supporters they get mad because others are starting to agree with us.

I don't think people are turned off by the message becoming more popular, but rather the idea behind what becoming mainstream means. It's usually accompanied by a distortion of the message, and a lot of fake people not knowing what they're talking about.
 
This is a long established technique of the "zionists".

They FIND A PARADE (Movement), RUN TO THE FRONT AND THE PEOPLE BEHIND THINK THEY'RE LEADING IT. Then they can steer The Movement for their benefit. Look back in recent movements in the US.

The general public has been trained to not criticize the "zionists" by constant beating with the "holocaust" bludgeon and people like Hagee who are paid shills of the "zionists" and so they will follow where they are lead like good little sheeple.

But you knew this of course. :D

Maybe Murdoch and his backers sense that Ron Paul has tapped into something, just as the America First Committee did in the 1930s. Murdoch did his best to blackball and discredit Ron Paul during the election just as Ron Paul was gaining traction. Beck was a part of this smear.
 
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Seems to me that Glenn Beck was one of the few to give Dr Paul airtime, I remember at least once, for a full hour !

Sounds like there are worse enemies then that
 

Again Conza, Sean Hannity and Rush and [insert republican here] were moving towards "Libertarianism" back when Obama won the election. Your prediction was almost 3 months late...they started their whole liberty and free market movement back in November, your whole prediction was made in late January.

Who the hell couldn't see this? Should we pat you on the back for pointing out the obvious?? It was pretty clear Sean Hannity would be trying to defend the free market view when he denounced Obama as being a socialist.

Again, I'm still not impressed. Congratulations for pointing out that Fox News would be anti-Obama when every other news station was guaranteed to be pro-Obama. It's whatever sells tickets, and all that Murdoch cares about is doing that. If Fox News could make more money by attracting more views by promoting Obama and bowing to him, they would quickly be pro-Obama. Considering Glenn Beck's show is the highest rated news show on TV, what incentive would he have in supporting Obama? Why do you think Murdoch signed Beck back in 2008 to join Fox News? Because he knew Beck would appeal to Ron Paulians. I thought that was pretty obvious, but I guess it took people like yourself several weeks before you spoke out after you saw the writing on the wall...

You're not as clever as you think you are. You think being loud is self-justifying.

Meanwhile, how are your stock picks coming along?? Since you know everything about everything, you should be outperforming the top hedge funds that made triple-digit returns in a matter of a week. Oh that's right...your crystal ball only points out the obvious...it can predict things after they happen, but not before. Hindsight is 20/20 :cool:
 
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