Islamic extremist kills 50 at Orlando gay nightclub

[Ender]

It's not reported how many were killed by whom, let's wait till investigations are completed and all the facts come out.


"Police Chief John Mina said the tragedy began at 2:02 a.m., when three police officers engaged the suspect in a gun battle outside the club. A hostage situation then took place inside, and a SWAT team was called in, Mina said. Police received updates from patrons trapped in the club, and decided to storm the club at about 5 a.m.

"Our biggest concern was further loss of life," Mina said. "We exchanged gunfire with the suspect, and he was dead at the scene."
One officer was also injured, 103 civilians shot and 30 rescued from the club. Many of the injured were transferred to Orlando Regional Medical Center, which was placed on lockdown.
Mina said 11 Orlando Police officers exchanged gunfire with Mateen and have since been relieved of duty. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement is conducting an independent investigation over the shots fired by police officers. The names of the police officers who have been relieved of duty will be released over the next few days.

The shooter has been identified by Congressman Alan Grayson as Omar Mateen, 29, from Port St. Lucie."

And the plot thickens.......

 

[69360]

And the plot thickens.......

It's SOP for cops to be relieved of duty after a shooting. They get a desk job until it is cleared.

 

[pcosmar]

And the plot thickens.......

the question remains.

How many were shot by cops?

 

[susano]

Are you seriously saying you don't know it's S.O.P. to assign every cop who shoots someone to a desk or give them a paid vacation until the internal investigation is done?

Can you prove that EVERY cop (as you say) who shoots someone is always suspended? I have heard of cops being suspended but wasn't aware it's always the protocol in every instance of a cop shooting or shooting at someone.

Did all of these cops shoot someone or did they just shoot in the direction of the alleged ISIS terrorist or what?

 

[susano]

Are "Sandy Hookers" blonde streetwalkers?

Not for the sake of this conversation. For others, they could be or could be hookers who work the beach

 

[69360]

Trump spin:



http://www.wgrz.com/news/mass-shoot...apprximately-20-dead-and-42-injured/240845418

Sounding like GW Bush. That guy who invaded Iraq and Afghanistan.

In all fairness, he should have went into Afghanistan. It was justified. We shouldn't still be there. Iraq was the mistake W won't ever live down.

Trump would be several magnitudes worse than W was.

the question remains.

How many were shot by cops?

I'm sure it will come out eventually that the cops hit some people in the crossfire. I think the shooter killed almost all of them.

 

[pcosmar]

I'm sure it will come out eventually that the cops hit some people in the crossfire. I think the shooter killed almost all of them.

I doubt the same..

not even sure if he wasn't hired (or suckered) for some staged event,, and was either set up,, or it went sideways.

the very definition of FUBAR.

Police response was as expected these days. (piss poor,,and violent beyond necessity)

 

[enhanced_deficit]

the question remains.

How many were shot by cops?

If all those involved in the shooting ,including the alleged suspect in these photos, were cops in one capacity or another, then you must not raise this kind of question as it may confuse folks.

 

[susano]

Alan Greyson is all over this. Saying it's homophobia. The guy who founded the club, Legler, donated to Greyson in 2010.

 

[pcosmar]

then you must not raise this kind of question as it may confuse folks.

you can lead sheep to knowledge,, but you can't make them think.

 

[younglibertarian]

Inside job. It is to perfect.

This will help them push Islamiphobia, removal of gun rights, and anti discriminatory laws all at the same time.

 

[Ender]

In all fairness, he should have went into Afghanistan. It was justified. We shouldn't still be there. Iraq was the mistake W won't ever live down.

Trump would be several magnitudes worse than W was.



I'm sure it will come out eventually that the cops hit some people in the crossfire. I think the shooter killed almost all of them.

Afghanistan was never justified. It was about oil. The Taliban even offered to give up OBL if he could be tried in a neutral country. W ignored them and bombed away.

And I agree about Trump.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Used to be able to Open Carry.

Different establishments had their own rules. ie,
One establishment asked me not to carry.
two others ,,the bartender held my gun,, till I leave.
some Open Cary was welcome,, Owner shows me where house guns are kept.


it was a better time.

They still have places that check guns here, I believe, but it has to be openly carried into the establishment.

It's nice being in a state that is friendly towards firearms. Even here though, you can't CC in bars, schools/school zones, state buildings, or federal buildings.

Bunch of cowboys, they think they are. Lmao. At least they don't require a permit to conceal carry.

 

[Ranger29860]

Isn't it weird how Brian Williams was saying that this club was one of the few safe spaces for gays in a city that's so full of them? Why would he lie about something so obviously not true? You'd think he was pushing an agenda or something.

lol

Orlando's history with the LGBT community is very complicated. A few years ago it would have been and to someone looking in from the outside it would seem that way but as a whole Orlando is much more accepting of the LGBT culture than most cities. I don't think he knew what he was talking about or he got fed crappy info from someone who did a cursory search on the internet. Bad research can be blamed on laziness and a rush to get something anything to say on the air in an event that (as sad as it is that this is true) will garner more viewers.

 

[acptulsa]

Afghanistan was never justified. It was about oil. The Taliban even offered to give up OBL if he could be tried in a neutral country. W ignored them and bombed away.

This. Unlike Iraq, it was at least a place bin Laden could, and allegedly did, go. But they have admitted he was gone by the time our military got there.

And it was about natural gas pipelines and poppies.

But this is a threadjack, so back to our regularly scheduled conversation.

 

[pcosmar]

Inside job. It is to perfect.

Nope..
Rushed and sloppy.. That was why my first post was about investigation.

No media and no reporters are even touching the real questions.

 

[RandallFan]

Trump is loved by gays, because of his entertainment industry links & the black on gay & Muslim on gay hate crimes on the east coast.

 

[FindLiberty]

...it may be too late for the wall to even help if that Muslim (the shooter) lived there for 10 years as a registered democrat.

Maybe Trump has a point...

 

[Ender]

This. Unlike Iraq, it was at least a place bin Laden could, and allegedly did, go. But they have admitted he was gone by the time our military got there.

And it was about natural gas pipelines and poppies.

But this is a threadjack, so back to our regularly scheduled conversation.

Agreed.

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

Leftist "intersectionalism" is inherently impossible, and is beginning to come apart. The left claims to speak for all these "oppressed" and "marginalized" groups, when in reality their interests are very different, and often opposite. You can't be pro-gay and pro-Muslim. Something's got to give.