Islam a threat?

My wife and I are enthusiastic Ron Paul supports who strongly agree with his positions.
We do have a concern.
There is a group of Muslims who do believe that the entire world needs to be under Sharia law.
We can see this happening in Africa and countries like Indonesia, and the Philipines. Europe seems to also be having trouble with this.

I think reducing our foreign oil usage could limit the funding of these people, but what other answer is there to this?

Considering the only people who ever say that are the hardcore media Neocons like Krystol, I don't worry about it too much.


Why believe long established liars? If Frank Lunts told you the same, would you believe it?


Christianity has caused much death throughout the ages as well. So no, I don't think Islam is innately more dangerous than any other religion.

If you like peace check out Buddhism ^^
 
Excuse me? But don't you realize that is a violation of a Muslim's constitutional rights? ...................


Show where the Constitution of the USA says you have a 'right' to enforce sharia on or conduct jihad against us infidels? The men who wrote the First Amendment intended it for Christians and maybe jews/free thinkers. Moslems were no more considered equals by the Founders than were the various pagan religions of the Indians.
 
Two things-

STOP selling them weapons.

Remove any moslem from North America who is not a Citizen. Ban further moslem immigration. Punish with deportation any nominal moslem citizen who refuses to publically renounce sharia and jihad.

We don't need that kind of bigoted policies here. People of all religions have right to practice their faith in America freely as long they accept the Constitution and abide by laws of the land. There are good and bad in every group of people, Christians, Muslims, Jews, atheists, agnostics all included.

And yes, we need to stop selling arms to both fighting parties of muslims and jews in mid east and world will be much more peaceful. I agree with that part.
 
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I have personally known many Muslim immigrants from the Middle East. Never once did any one of them ever attempt to convert me, attempt to kill me or even suggest that I was on the wrong track. They were and are some of the kindest people that I have ever known.

I can only surmise that there are some in every religion that want to convert the world. They are a small minority. They are the ones that hijack religions for their own personal, often political, gains. There are also those who want you to think that all people who belong to a religion or ethnicity are all evil. Such thinking is prevalent in neo-con philosophy. The battle is raging primarily between Zionists and Islamists. America never had anything but good relations with the Muslim world until it put Israel's interests before its own.

When I was a kid I tried to stop a fight. I got slugged twice by two separate people. Trying to police the world does not make people love one another, it turns our military into unpaid mercenaries, our politicians into traitors and the rest of us into fools.
 
We don't need that kind of bigoted policies here. People of all religions have right to practice their faith in America freely as long they accept the Constitution and abide by laws of the land...................


Soooooooo, tell me - just HOW are sharia and jihad compatable with the Constitution of the USA?
 
Soooooooo, tell me - just HOW are sharia and jihad compatable with the Constitution of the USA?

Do you need me to cite you some commands from God from Torah/Talmud/Bible that are completely incompatible with US Constitution?

Sharia and jihad can't be all that bad, we supported and funded them in Afghanistan against secular forces few years ago and are doing so in Iraq right now. They are our natural allies according to what our policies are, God forbid the communists might take over the world.
 
Mr. Lies-I can tell from your remarks that you have no clue what sharia or jihad actually mean. I feel it will not be the best use of my time to explain anything to you until you take the time to get up to speed on what you are spouting off about. I suggest you do some research about what those terms actually mean to Muslims before you start imagining that any Muslim would care enough to force anything on someone like you.

Since you seem to have an issue with sharia vis-a-vis the US constitution, I have found some readings you might find educational:

http://www.law.fsu.edu/journals/transnational/vol11_2/white.pdf

http://www.minaret.org/constitution2.pdf

If you search these forums, you will find several other links to articles comparing the Constitution and the Quran. You might find them enlightening.
 
Do you need me to cite you some commands from God from Torah/Talmud/Bible that are completely incompatible with US Constitution?

Sharia and jihad ..........................

Difference is that Christians (if they take their Book seriously) tend towards pacifism (heck a forced conversion is regarded as utterly worthless) and orthodox jews while every bit as willing as moslems to get physical with infidels will never number even 1% of the USA population. Moslems on the other are openly encouraged by their 'holy' books to go forth & conquer.
When the day comes that muhammad can be routinely made the butt of crude jokes in the newspaper WITHOUT the local moslems burning the downtown & a 16 year old from a moslem household can routinely decide to be a goth without being 'honor' slaughtered by her male relatives THEN islam might be fit for civilised company. Until that time lets contain the infection in the M.E.
 
..........I suggest you do some research about what those terms actually mean to Muslims before you start imagining that any Muslim would care enough ............................


Been there, done that, have the T-shirt. BTW I am well aware of what followers of islam would love to do to Danish cartoonists...........the same vile things as were done to that dutch politician who dared offend them. Sharia and jihad simply have no place in civilised nations.
 
Difference is that Christians (if they take their Book seriously) tend towards pacifism (heck a forced conversion is regarded as utterly worthless) and orthodox jews while every bit as willing as moslems to get physical with infidels will never number even 1% of the USA population. Moslems on the other are openly encouraged by their 'holy' books to go forth & conquer.

You must have a very short view of history. Do you know which religion targeted Jews during Spanish Inquisitions for not converting?

There is threat from radical sharia crowd ( incidentally like the radicals of the kind with Iranian ties we are supporting in Iraq right now) when they turn militant and against us, very big majority of muslims seem to be focussed on going to mosques and praying and not applying themselves to build bombs and weapons like we have been. There are holy bookers in every organized religious system, some more potent than others at various times in history. Current terror threat and radicalism seem to be linked to sour next gen of Islamic Jihadis we armed/funded in Afghanistan/Osama types and cycle of Israeli-Palestinian bloodshed. You should perhaps invest some time into reading some of the books Ron Paul had prescribed to Rudy to further your understanding. I say this because I got a much clearer picture of things after reading couple of books from that list. Books on 'Rudy's reading list' that were tied to Nov 30th money bomb are indeed eye opening.
 
You must have a very short view of history. Do you know which religion targeted Jews during Spanish Inquisitions for not converting?

There is threat from radical sharia crowd ( incidentally like the radicals of the kind with Iranian ties we are supporting in Iraq right now) when they turn militant and against us, very big majority of muslims seem to be focussed on going to mosques and praying and not applying themselves to build bombs and weapons like we have been. There are holy bookers in every organized religious system, some more potent than others at various times in history. Current terror threat and radicalism seem to be linked to sour next gen of Islamic Jihadis we armed/funded in Afghanistan/Osama types and cycle of Israeli-Palestinian bloodshed. You should perhaps invest some time into reading some of the books Ron Paul had prescribed to Rudy to further your understanding. I say this because I got a much clearer picture of things after reading couple of books from that list. Books on 'Rudy's reading list' that were tied to Nov 30th money bomb are indeed eye opening.


Here is that list, Amazon has good summary on each of these books for browsing:

http://rudysreadinglist.com/
 
You must have a very short view of history. Do you know which religion targeted Jews during Spanish Inquisitions for not converting?

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500 years ago hardly matters at this date. When is the last time the Moral Majority did a snuff video of the sort soooo common in islamic lands, hmmmmm?

The Reality is that there is NOWHERE IN THE WORLD THAT A LARGE CONCENTRATION OF MOSLEMS IS ABLE TO LIVE PEACEFULLY LONG TERM WITH NON-ISLAMIC NEIGHBORS WHOM THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DOMINATE. Look at Turkey a 90 year attempt at secular 'democracy' is falling apart and ONLY lasted this long because the Army held the mullahs in check at gunpoint. Lebanon- 'democracy' ended just as soon as islam held the demograpic whiphand. Under our occupation Afgans and Iraqis have shown yhey LOVE to Vote......for imposition of sharia.

You wanna try living with moslems holding political power go for it somewhere else. DO NOT plan on using the USA for a testbed.
 
Pape and Schuerer? One has a jilted view of history, the other, none at all.

US foriegn policy changes could curb "moderate Islamic Outrage Syndrome", but would do little to change the minds of Qutbists like bin Laden.

Bin Laden hasn't had a mind to change for some years now (unless you think the caves in Pakistan are equipped with hemodialysis machines).
 
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