Is Trump better than Hillary?

Who knows.

With Hillary we pretty much know what we're going to get. I'm fairly certain our country will still exist in 4 years if she's elected, albeit much worse.

With Trump we have a pretty good idea of what we're going to get. That is a narcissistic liar who cannot be trusted. Most likely it looks a lot like Hillary. Could be a lot worse or mildly better. I think there is a greater chance that the country does not exist in 4 years than with Hillary. I also think there is a greater chance that I'm in a camp somewhere with Trump as POTUS.

Best case scenario is Trump is elected and spends 4 years doing absolutely nothing but playing golf.
 
Is Trump better than Hillary?

Would it be better to vote for Trump in the general election than Hillary due to Trump being against abortion, appointment of conservative judges, and possibly helping the Republicans and conservatives (at least some like Rand Paul) to keep and grow their influence in politics?

Trump wants to change the GOP platform to add exceptions for abortions.

GW appointed a "conservative" judge to SCOTUS and we still got Obamacare.

Trump and his voters are bringing RINOs like Renee Ellmers to Congress.
 
Are you telling Ron Paul to get out of America?
No. Ron Paul is awesome.

I'm telling all the RPF'ers you either need to get on the Trump train or get the hell out of America and go to some pussy country like Canada.
 
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Logic, they have designed candidates for you to vote against even though they are part of the same party. Voting for the party with R or D is voting for Clinton. Trump is hedging his bets against Clinton because he lost last time he bet on Clinton.

Do you have any evidence of this being the case?
 
Johnson and Weld are left-libertarians. A vote for them could equally have gone to trump or Hillary. I actually think they'll take more from the left than the right - why? They're pro-choice, anti-war, pro-LGBT, pro-immigrant. Johnson/Weld are the anti-trump whereas trump and Hillary are twins - physically and ideologically.

How do you figure that the left would vote for the libertarian party more so than the right based on the issues? I don't know if the left would vote for libertarians than Clinton because it seems that the left do not want Trump at all, and if that is the case why would they vote for libertarians and risk getting Trump into the white house than voting for clinton and have a better chance at defeating Trump. If the Bernie supporters do not want to vote for clinton, then I could see a chance of them voting libertarian or another 3rd party.
 
Trump wants to change the GOP platform to add exceptions for abortions.

GW appointed a "conservative" judge to SCOTUS and we still got Obamacare.

Trump and his voters are bringing RINOs like Renee Ellmers to Congress.

Where did Trump say he wants to add exceptions to abortion and was it recent?

But wouldn't a conservative judge like the one GW appointed still be better than any liberal judge Hillary could appoint?

Renee is one example, but are there other examples of rinos being led to Congress or other parts of govt by Trump and his supporters?
 
How do you figure that the left would vote for the libertarian party more so than the right based on the issues? I don't know if the left would vote for libertarians than Clinton because it seems that the left do not want Trump at all, and if that is the case why would they vote for libertarians and risk getting Trump into the white house.

1. They are the ones who got robbed by the rich power brokers of their allegedly populist party.

2. They're smart enough to see how little difference there really is between the two.

3. They're smart enough to know that, if they and we actually make that much of a difference, the election would get decided by the House of Representatives anyway.
 
If we don't vote for Trump or vote 3rd party, do you think it's a vote for Hillary?

For those that say no to my original questions and to this question, what reasons or proof do you have to support your belief?

It is only a vote for Clinton if you do not live in a state where she will lose. She will not carry my state so I can vote for whomever. I will be voting third party.
 
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How do you figure that the left would vote for the libertarian party more so than the right based on the issues? I don't know if the left would vote for libertarians than Clinton because it seems that the left do not want Trump at all, and if that is the case why would they vote for libertarians and risk getting Trump into the white house than voting for clinton and have a better chance at defeating Trump. If the Bernie supporters do not want to vote for clinton, then I could see a chance of them voting libertarian or another 3rd party.

You sound like that's not the answer you wanted to hear.

I suppose the only way one would have usable evidence is for a polling organization to do two simultaneous polls from the same demographic, one including Johnson/Weld as an option and one not including them. It would be cool to see where they pull from.

If the LP had chosen gun-slinging Austin Peterson or John McAfee this time, yes, the LP's vote would take directly away from trump. But I think it's intriguing that Johnson/Weld are comfortable presenting an amenable face to left-swinging voters. A female VP would have been even better.
 
1. They are the ones who got robbed by the rich power brokers of their allegedly populist party.

2. They're smart enough to see how little difference there really is between the two.

3. They're smart enough to know that, if they and we actually make that much of a difference, the election would get decided by the House of Representatives anyway.

From what I see on CNN and from my liberal friends, it appears they don't want Trump. To me this would be evidence that they'd vote for clinton and not the libertarian party. But this is just my observation.

I think it may depend on Bernie supporters. Will they back clinton or someone else?
 
Do you have any evidence of this being the case?

I have evidence that Trump is a democrat who is devoted to the Clintons but the media has sold you a narrative that you want to believe. This is the power the MSM has over us, they sold us WMDS in Iraq, and now they are selling us Trump vs Clinton. This is fiction, and the very fact that the media is reporting it should be proof enough to any Ron Paul person.
 
How do you figure that the left would vote for the libertarian party more so than the right based on the issues? I don't know if the left would vote for libertarians than Clinton because it seems that the left do not want Trump at all, and if that is the case why would they vote for libertarians and risk getting Trump into the white house than voting for clinton and have a better chance at defeating Trump. If the Bernie supporters do not want to vote for clinton, then I could see a chance of them voting libertarian or another 3rd party.

This poll says that out of an 11% showing Johnson took 6 points from Clinton and 5 points from trump.
 
That's a tough question, he could be either a lot better or just a little better than Hillary, most likely, or possibly about the same - and also he could possibly be worse.


lol! That basically says all of the above. Could be better. Could be same. Could be worse. meh.

I agree with you though. Who the hell knows with Trump?
 
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