roflwofl89
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What a dumbass... some radio host was equating getting high with slavery?? lol
Is This Ron Paul?!?! Fox News...
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jenninlouisiana
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This tight-ass young suit was arguing that smoking pot is the same as rape, murder and slavery.
Did anyone catch his name?
Apparently Mike Gravel said it should be legalized and taxed and is safer than alcohol.
What these people dont' get is that you don't have to be a pot smoker or pro-drugs to know how rationally stupid this argument is (in reference to what the radio host said).
Did anyone catch his name?
Apparently Mike Gravel said it should be legalized and taxed and is safer than alcohol.
What these people dont' get is that you don't have to be a pot smoker or pro-drugs to know how rationally stupid this argument is (in reference to what the radio host said).
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Yes, I saw a guy telling them the truth about pot and being attacked by some other people.
[held my nose]
The woman asking, "so should the public be made to pay the hospital bills of someone who smokes pot?"
Seems this would be a moot subject if people were made to pay their own hospital bills.
Who pays the hospital bills of the people who smoke tobacco and drink alcohol?
Their arguments have no basis but they continue to bring them up anyway.
[held my nose]
The woman asking, "so should the public be made to pay the hospital bills of someone who smokes pot?"
Seems this would be a moot subject if people were made to pay their own hospital bills.
Who pays the hospital bills of the people who smoke tobacco and drink alcohol?
Their arguments have no basis but they continue to bring them up anyway.
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I personally think the War on Drugs is one of the most evil legacies of our policy-making over the last century, and I for one would look forward to this being raised as an issue.
Please, by all means attack me for making a satirical comment.
Most people don't care about the war on drugs unless they are drug users or minorities. As long as its just potheads and blacks getting tossed in jail white America could care less. It makes them feel safer. They don't have to pay the huge bill. Taxes haven't gone up. It's just added to the debt, just like the Iraq war and all of the other big government spending. The only way people will wake up to any of the problems of big government is when it starts to hit them in the wallet. Taxes should be increased and borrowing decreased. This generation of American people should be forced to pay for their government programs, not the Chinese, the fed or future generations. When that happens people will finally realize the true cost of these programs and they will be climbing over each other to reduce government spending and waste. That is the only way to do it. As long as the pain of overspending is not felt by the population they will continue to lend their support to each and every program that makes them feel a little bit safer, after all, its free in their eyes.
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I think more people have at least dabbled in drugs than just the usual suspects. Think about it - Bill Clinton, Bush Jr., and even Obama have openly admitted to using drugs.
To be honest, I'm hard-pressed to come up with a list of more than three people (over age 20) that I've known personally to have never once touched an illegal drug. During the push for drug testing as part of insurance for businesses, I heard plenty of jokes about how the drug posters were being used as "checklists" in some pretty surprising work environments.
To be honest, I'm hard-pressed to come up with a list of more than three people (over age 20) that I've known personally to have never once touched an illegal drug. During the push for drug testing as part of insurance for businesses, I heard plenty of jokes about how the drug posters were being used as "checklists" in some pretty surprising work environments.
This was in the news all week about Gravel, almost the same amount as the newsletters have been out about Ron Paul. He gets a bad rub by the press too. He has a speech, they pull out one line of a 30 min speech take it out of context, sound familiar? Personally I think Gravel is a good guy. But of course MSM needs to smear any candidate that is a good guy as we know.
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Sorry. I wasn't attacking you for making a satrical comment. Believe me, I hear constantly that old people keep drugs illegal, or that conservative old people are what keeps the war on drugs alive.
Politicians lie and pretend that there's popular support for the war on drugs. Many people believe it and repeat it, but the evidence says otherwise.
I watched it.
It referred to Gravel saying pot was healthier than alcohol. The discussion that ensued simply discussed the issue, not Gravel.
The pro-freedom message was delivered by Jonathan Hoenig:
http://www.capitalistpig.com/
I forget who the anti-liberty prohibition message was, but he mentioned at times "I don't trust the American people" on this issue. Hoenig pointed that out, but failed to ask why we should trust the anti-liberty message because it couldn't be trusted either.
Ron Paul was mentioned as someone who does support the end of The Drug War.
Fox also repeated the crap that Giuliani's proposed tax cut will be the largest in history. I have several issues with that:
1. That is inaccurate. I know Jefferson halved the US budget in his time. If they are measuring in current dollars, then they (Fox/Giuliani) are simply being dishonest.
2. It has not been passed into law.
3. If we take all proposals that haven't been passed into law, Ron Paul's proposal will be much, much larger than Giuliani's.
Someone raised the issue that drug prohibition may only be an issue drug users or those convicted on drug use care about, and only those people. This can be restated to reach a broad audience, such as:
1. Stopping the drug war stops infringements on liberty that occur in law enforcement.
2. Stopping the drug war saves American taxpayers tens of billions of dollars per year for non-violent crimes.
3. Stopping the drug war eliminates violent crimes in the same way Prohibition did.
4. Stopping the drug war stops enriching the Taliban via the heroin trade (the same argument should be made with high oil prices and war too).
It referred to Gravel saying pot was healthier than alcohol. The discussion that ensued simply discussed the issue, not Gravel.
The pro-freedom message was delivered by Jonathan Hoenig:
http://www.capitalistpig.com/
I forget who the anti-liberty prohibition message was, but he mentioned at times "I don't trust the American people" on this issue. Hoenig pointed that out, but failed to ask why we should trust the anti-liberty message because it couldn't be trusted either.
Ron Paul was mentioned as someone who does support the end of The Drug War.
Fox also repeated the crap that Giuliani's proposed tax cut will be the largest in history. I have several issues with that:
1. That is inaccurate. I know Jefferson halved the US budget in his time. If they are measuring in current dollars, then they (Fox/Giuliani) are simply being dishonest.
2. It has not been passed into law.
3. If we take all proposals that haven't been passed into law, Ron Paul's proposal will be much, much larger than Giuliani's.
Someone raised the issue that drug prohibition may only be an issue drug users or those convicted on drug use care about, and only those people. This can be restated to reach a broad audience, such as:
1. Stopping the drug war stops infringements on liberty that occur in law enforcement.
2. Stopping the drug war saves American taxpayers tens of billions of dollars per year for non-violent crimes.
3. Stopping the drug war eliminates violent crimes in the same way Prohibition did.
4. Stopping the drug war stops enriching the Taliban via the heroin trade (the same argument should be made with high oil prices and war too).
Which is the absolute truth.
When my buddies come into work with hangovers, puking, beer bowels, ect, I just smile =)
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This is a way to poison the well against Ron Paul without having to say his name.
I know Rich Lowry speaks out against it. Even though he's a Romney guy.
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