This thread and others like it ought to be deleted.
If someone in charge wants to delete it, I'm not going to whine about it, or keep pestering.
I thought Paul supporters might be the reasonable ones, who can really discuss things. I didn't realize that you all had so much in common with redstate after all. The "I don't want to talk about it" attitude is childish.
And those talking about "compromise" aren't much better. A compromise would be signing a bill into law that he didn't agree with, or vetoing one that he did, just to make someone else happy. How including others could be equated with this is bizarre. If the man wins, when he wins, he won't be president of the Ron Paul supporters. He'll be president for all americans. That's a big difference.
Saying that you wouldn't support him were Kucinich his VP, at least it's honest even if I don't consider it to be thought through carefully. Saying "this should be deleted, we can't talk about it" when it was a discussion asked sincerely, in a polite manner, and only because it seems to me that it might help his campaign... that's just low. Does anyone realistically expect a landslide? He will need every last vote he can get when the primary comes to your state. We're not talking about him cheating. We're not talking about selling out. We're talking about him showing those americans whose policies he does not agree with that we're at least willing to listen to them as long as they're decent about it and stop with all the bullshit rhetoric that Hillary and Giuliani, Obama and McCain, Edwards and Romney are about.
The VP is first and foremost an advisor to the president. Ron Paul's a strong man, one with a strong mind and personality. Kucinich won't hypnotize him to change his mind. I like it when people disagree with me when it's civil... if you only listen to those who agree with you completely, there's no one there to keep you honest. No one there to force you to take a hard look at your own positions and to really defend them, to show that they are indeed defensible.
Those who worry that the VP is but a heartbeat away from the presidency, I admit, this would be a risk. And while there are those that would want Paul shot, I don't think Kucinich is the kind of man to try something like that (unlike, say, LBJ).
There is no other democrat that has anything like decency or honesty among the other candidates. Hillary's glad to continue this perverse war that kills thousands, and Obama and Edwards either agree with her or are too scared to speak out against. Pretty much the same thing I suppose. Kucinich is different. He's wrong about guns, I agree. He is too socialist. But, when Ron Paul's policies actually start working, he's just honest enough that I think Paul might change his mind.
As I see it, There's at least a 4 way tie brewing in the GOP. Whoever it is that controls this show can't seem to make up their minds about who the frontrunner is. This is good... if there were only Giuliani and he was getting 60% of the primary vote, there'd be no way to beat him, even with an incredibly strong showing. But more or less a tie among 4? If the frontrunners are only getting 60 or 70% of the vote, that's like 15-20% a piece. It's still thinking that Paul might not just scrape by, and win it slowly over the course of the summer, but for him to come in 1st nearly everywhere.
Especially if he could pick up another 5% from democrats and independents that are worried he's just another republican. The democrats don't have anyone to vote for either... Gravel's already been shut out, and they're getting ready to do the same to Kucinich. There's no one left for them that is sane, even what passes for sane in that party. Let's show them their worries aren't right, let's show them that their concerns as voters will at least be acknowledged too.
