Is the Judge supporting Romney/Ryan?

[Sematary]

I just watched the video clip below. He obviously doesn't come out and say it, but it sounds like he is backing the Ryan plan. Can this be true?

 

[J. W. Evans]

I might easily be wrong now, but I recall a brouhaha from some Libertarians that Napolitano was backing the Johnson/Gray ticket a few months ago.

 

[kahless]

What do you expect him to do. I for example like Ron cannot fully support Romney but also cannot support Johnson's pro-abortion stance. Johnson would only be a protest vote and allow the country to further go to shit with another 4 years of Obama.

There have been significant concessions from the Romney campaign and the party, it just remains to be seen whether they will follow through. With Obama there is NO chance in the next 4 years and the Overton window will favor the polices of the left making it harder in 4 years to effect change.

As much as I do not like eating a shit sandwich, when you look at the choice between Obama and Romney, it is pretty clear that Romney is closer to us on issues than Obama.

 

[Brett85]

I'd be more likely to support Romney if he actually agreed with the platform that the GOP laid out. (Not going to war without a full declaration of war.) But, in an interview the other day he said that the President has the power to go to war without even getting approval from Congress. So it seems as though Romney's positions are still far worse than what the GOP platform states.

 

[Sematary]

I'd be more likely to support Romney if he actually agreed with the platform that the GOP laid out. (Not going to war without a full declaration of war.) But, in an interview the other day he said that the President has the power to go to war without even getting approval from Congress. So it seems as though Romney's positions are still far worse than what the GOP platform states.

Even if he professed to go along with that part of the platform, I wouldn't trust him to actually do it. I will ONLY vote for Ron Paul in November - even if I have to write him in (again).

 

[ShaneEnochs]

What do you expect him to do. I for example like Ron cannot fully support Romney but also cannot support Johnson's pro-abortion stance. Johnson would only be a protest vote and allow the country to further go to shit with another 4 years of Obama.

There have been significant concessions from the Romney campaign and the party, it just remains to be seen whether they will follow through. With Obama there is NO chance in the next 4 years and the Overton window will favor the polices of the left making it harder in 4 years to effect change.

As much as I do not like eating a shit sandwich, when you look at the choice between Obama and Romney, it is pretty clear that Romney is closer to us on issues than Obama.

Not sure if serious?

 

[Sematary]

What do you expect him to do. I for example like Ron cannot fully support Romney but also cannot support Johnson's pro-abortion stance. Johnson would only be a protest vote and allow the country to further go to shit with another 4 years of Obama.

There have been significant concessions from the Romney campaign and the party, it just remains to be seen whether they will follow through. With Obama there is NO chance in the next 4 years and the Overton window will favor the polices of the left making it harder in 4 years to effect change.

As much as I do not like eating a shit sandwich, when you look at the choice between Obama and Romney, it is pretty clear that Romney is closer to us on issues than Obama.

What is with all the posts the last couple of days from people who are willing to compromise principle to *supposedly* support the lesser of two evils. Stand up for what you believe in - vote for Ron Paul, because as we all know - whether Romney wins or Obama wins, the rest of us lose - so vote your conscience and your principles.

 

[69360]

So what if he does? I don't support Romney, but I'm not dissociating with good people whom I agree with if they do.

 

[The Goat]

So I guess you think Bush was better than Obama too? Get a clue, nothing changes. If you think it does your not really paying attention to what matters.

What do you expect him to do. I for example like Ron cannot fully support Romney but also cannot support Johnson's pro-abortion stance. Johnson would only be a protest vote and allow the country to further go to shit with another 4 years of Obama.

There have been significant concessions from the Romney campaign and the party, it just remains to be seen whether they will follow through. With Obama there is NO chance in the next 4 years and the Overton window will favor the polices of the left making it harder in 4 years to effect change.

As much as I do not like eating a shit sandwich, when you look at the choice between Obama and Romney, it is pretty clear that Romney is closer to us on issues than Obama.

 

[Brett85]

What is with all the posts the last couple of days from people who are willing to compromise principle to *supposedly* support the lesser of two evils. Stand up for what you believe in - vote for Ron Paul, because as we all know - whether Romney wins or Obama wins, the rest of us lose - so vote your conscience and your principles.

I live in Kansas where my vote doesn't matter anyway, and I'm voting for Chuck Baldwin of the Kansas reform party. That's partly because my vote in a non swing state really doesn't matter, and partly because I have a big problem with Romney's foreign policy views. But, I think if people were to look at things objectively, Romney is closer to us than Obama on domestic issues. The thing I don't like is people constantly telling me who I have to vote for, as if you're forced to vote for a certain candidate just because you're a part of a certain group. I'm voting for Chuck Baldwin because I want to vote for him, not because everybody here is telling me not to vote for Romney.

 

[Sematary]

I live in Kansas where my vote doesn't matter anyway, and I'm voting for Chuck Baldwin of the Kansas reform party. That's partly because my vote in a non swing state really doesn't matter, and partly because I have a big problem with Romney's foreign policy views. But, I think if people were to look at things objectively, Romney is closer to us than Obama on domestic issues. The thing I don't like is people constantly telling me who I have to vote for, as if you're forced to vote for a certain candidate just because you're a part of a certain group. I'm voting for Chuck Baldwin because I want to vote for him, not because everybody here is telling me not to vote for Romney.

The "liberty movement" is about trying to get someone into office who will follow the constitution, not about single issues. I am anti-abortion but I am NOT basing my vote on whether or not a particular candidate shares that view. I am basing it on whom I believe is the person best able to represent my belief that the federal government is too large, needs to bring the troops home and needs to obey the constitution. Maybe it's just me but I thought that was what this "movement" was all about - not social issues or single issue bs.

 

[Brett85]

The "liberty movement" is about trying to get someone into office who will follow the constitution.

It is, but what chance do we have of electing someone who believes in following the Constitution? Gary Johnson really isn't as good as Ron in that regard, and he also has about a one and a million chance of winning the election. Like I said, I'm not voting for Romney, but I'm not the kind of person who criticizes people who do decide to vote for Romney.

 

[Liberty74]

I'm not voting for Romney but I hope he wins. If Obama wins, the country is done. The Liberty movement is done. There is no turning the country back.

 

[Tod]

There have been significant concessions from the Romney campaign

Huh?!? Name the major issues where Romney has material differences with Obama, please. I think you are deluding yourself if you think there have been any actual concessions. The rhetoric is designed to make people think that there is a choice between the two, but really they are, for all intents and purposes one and the same.

In my opinion we would be far better off if the country went to hell in a handbasket while the reins are in the hands of a democrat rather than a republican, unless we want to drop the takeover of the republican party.

 

[cajuncocoa]

I'd be more likely to support Romney if he actually agreed with the platform that the GOP laid out. (Not going to war without a full declaration of war.) But, in an interview the other day he said that the President has the power to go to war without even getting approval from Congress. So it seems as though Romney's positions are still far worse than what the GOP platform states.

Are you really ready to trust this man's words? What has he done to earn your trust that he would do what he says?

 

[kahless]

What is with all the posts the last couple of days from people who are willing to compromise principle to *supposedly* support the lesser of two evils. Stand up for what you believe in - vote for Ron Paul, because as we all know - whether Romney wins or Obama wins, the rest of us lose - so vote your conscience and your principles.

A Ron Paul write-in vote is counted as "SCATTER" where I live.

Not sure if serious?

Huh?!? Name the major issues where Romney has material differences with Obama, please.

He could be just telling us what we want to hear but with Obama there is ZERO chance of any of these polices being passed. At least these items and some concessions to the Paul camp stand a chance. I really financially cannot afford another 4 years of Obama.

For example, health insurance. Because of Obama, I may have to drop my health insurance since it has risen 45% since Obama took office and they want 35% more by January because of Obamacare.

Romney at least has a plan where Obama has no plan other than to continue the same destructive course with Obamacare.

- Health care competition" across state lines.
- Ensure flexibility to help the uninsured, including public-private partnerships, exchanges
- Empower individuals and small businesses to form purchasing pools

What chance do you have with Obama on the following. ZERO. Like I said Romney may just be pandering for votes with the following but at least there is a chance.

- Now thinks Federal Reserve should be audited
- Against further quantitative easing
- Evaluating the return of the Gold Standard as a centerpiece of U.S. monetary policy.
- Would not re-appoint Bernanke
- Internet Freedom. Opposed to SOPA.
- Repeal Dodd-Frank
- Amend Sarbanes-Oxley to relieve mid-size companies of some requirements
- Pro-life as opposed to Obama and Johnson running on a pro-abortion platform.

Taxes
- Make permanent, across-the-board 20 percent cut in marginal rates
- Maintain current tax rates on interest, dividends, and capital gains
- Eliminate taxes for taxpayers with AGI below $200,000 on interest, dividends, and capital gains
- Eliminate the Death Tax
- Repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT)
- Cut the corporate rate to 25 percent

 

[cajuncocoa]

I'm not voting for Romney but I hope he wins. If Obama wins, the country is done. The Liberty movement is done. There is no turning the country back.

This is closer to the way I feel. I'm very worried about Obama in a 2nd term, but I can't wrap my brain around ways Romney will be better. Especially if he gets us involved in a war with Iran.

 

[ShaneEnochs]

A Ron Paul write-in vote is counted as "SCATTER" where I live.





He could be just telling us what we want to hear but with Obama there is ZERO chance of any of these polices being passed. At least these items and some concessions to the Paul camp stand a chance. I really financially cannot afford another 4 years of Obama.

For example, health insurance. Because of Obama, I may have to drop my health insurance since it has risen 45% since Obama took office and they want 35% more by January because of Obamacare.

Romney at least has a plan where Obama has no plan other than to continue the same destructive course with Obamacare.

- Health care competition" across state lines.
- Ensure flexibility to help the uninsured, including public-private partnerships, exchanges, and subsidies
- Empower individuals and small businesses to form purchasing pools

What chance do you have with Obama on the following. ZERO. Like I said Romney may just be pandering for votes with the following but at least there is a chance.

- Now thinks Federal Reserve should be audited
- Against further quantitative easing
- Evaluating the return of the Gold Standard as a centerpiece of U.S. monetary policy.
- Would not re-appoint Bernanke
- Internet Freedom. Opposed to SOPA.
- Repeal Dodd-Frank
- Amend Sarbanes-Oxley to relieve mid-size companies of some requirements
- Pro-life as opposed to Obama and Johnson running on a pro-abortion platform.

Taxes
- Make permanent, across-the-board 20 percent cut in marginal rates
- Maintain current tax rates on interest, dividends, and capital gains
- Eliminate taxes for taxpayers with AGI below $200,000 on interest, dividends, and capital gains
- Eliminate the Death Tax
- Repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT)
- Cut the corporate rate to 25 percent

What the hell? Am I on the right forum?

Romney CREATED obamacare. Why do you think he would get rid of it?

 

[wgadget]

I will not vote for Romney. But I hope he wins, because then we will be able to say I TOLD YOU SO when things get even worse.

I'll probably vote Johnson since write ins aren't counted.

 

[The Gold Standard]

I am leaning toward voting for Obama to cancel out anyone from here who is conned into voting for Romney. He is not closer to us on issues. he is a piece of shit. This country is fucked anyway, might as well make sure Obama is the one in there to take the blame for the fall rather than the government propaganda machine blaming a "capitalist" like Romney.