Is the HPV Vaccine Safe?

Celibacy until the age of maturity is not unreasonable. I did it, my wife did it, my DAUGHTER *IS* doing it.

So if she's raped in a park and gets HPV, then cancer years later, you're ok with that?

Not all sex is consentual.

That besides the fact that she could also get HPV from her husband, who probably won't be a virgin.

If you think it's dangerous, that's one thing, but to think that your daughter will never have sex until she marries her virgin husband is asinine.
 
My dad is a doctor, and he made me get the HPV vaccine. Actually, it is a series of 3 shots, and I only got the first two. I refused the third after I read stories of girls dying from it.
 
No it is not safe at all. Do not take it if you care about your health at all.
 
Okay seriously there are studies that say condoms are rather effective in reducing risk of HPV. Just google some of them. Obviously, they aren't gonna be 100 hundred percent. As for the vax who knows yeah it's probably not 100 percent either it's 4 strains compared to dozens. U can continue to argue about what to do with the rest of the info.
 
What a surprise to see tmosley pimping the HPV vaccine. Pro-fluoride in the drinking water, pro-Gardisil, anything else you want to promote while you're here? Maybe GMO crops, Codex Alimentarius, HR 875?

Anyway, I posted some stuff in one of the other HPV vaccine threads (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=183044) if anyone is looking for more info on negative side effects.
 
What a surprise to see tmosley pimping the HPV vaccine. Pro-fluoride in the drinking water, pro-Gardisil, anything else you want to promote while you're here? Maybe GMO crops, Codex Alimentarius, HR 875?

Anyway, I posted some stuff in one of the other HPV vaccine threads (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=183044) if anyone is looking for more info on negative side effects.

No. I only represent my own beliefs. I base my beliefs on science rather than fear and mass hysteria, as so many on this board are wont to do.

If you must know, I like a number of GMO crops (especially the ones that are drought/flood/insect resistant, increasing food production), so long as those who create them act ethically (they don't--lawsuits, intimidation, and sterile offspring are bad to say the least). Codex Alimentarius is bullshit and I oppose it (and all other governmental regulation of private or business affairs). Same goes for HR 875.

Also, I take great offense at your use of the term pimp. If I were your father I'd wash your filthy mouth out with soap.
 
the vaccine only protects you from a few strands compared to the 100s that are out there. what people are in the dark about is that for years and years women have carried HPV. in the majority of cases it is not dangerous to be a carrier of HPV becasue as you age it goes away. there are times when a women may go to her yearly exam and she may have abnormal results, they do a simple retest and everything is fine. in nature people get sick and its in overcoming illness that you build immunity and are able to resist future attacks ie chicken pox, measels, flu.

all of these vaccines, antibiotics, medications, booster shots, and just plain all pharmaceuticals; we're trying to overcome what is natural, which is death, and we will never win....in the end really when its your time to die youre going to die whether it be by illness or getting into an accident, you cant escape that
 
the vaccine only protects you from a few strands compared to the 100s that are out there. what people are in the dark about is that for years and years women have carried HPV. in the majority of cases it is not dangerous to be a carrier of HPV becasue as you age it goes away. there are times when a women may go to her yearly exam and she may have abnormal results, they do a simple retest and everything is fine. in nature people get sick and its in overcoming illness that you build immunity and are able to resist future attacks ie chicken pox, measels, flu.

all of these vaccines, antibiotics, medications, booster shots, and just plain all pharmaceuticals; we're trying to overcome what is natural, which is death, and we will never win....in the end really when its your time to die youre going to die whether it be by illness or getting into an accident, you cant escape that

Although you have a point about it only covering X number of strains, I find your apparent worship of death disturbing. If you think it's all worthless, then why eat food? If you didn't gather it out of the forest, then it isn't natural either (all food crops and domesticated animals have been subject to thousands of years of selective breeding by humans).

Just because everyone dies doesn't mean we shouldn't put any effort into living a longer, healthier life. Nor does it mean we should shut down our brains or stop trying to improve on "nature". For all of human history mankind has been struggling against nature to make a better life for himself and his children. It's only recently that people have started to hate the mind and all of its fruits, even though it is all we have, and the only thing that keeps our soft furless flesh from being devoured by the predators and parasites nature has provided us with, or from freezing to death in the cold dark winter. The mind is what keeps darkness at bay even in the depths of the longest night. The mind is what keeps us safe in our homes, out of the wind driven rain and snow. Sacrifice the mind, and you sacrifice your humanity. Those who abandon the mind seek nothing, and find only suffering and death. Remember that when you refuse your cheap and effective preventatives, when your teeth fall apart, when cancer eats you from the inside out, or when your immune system shuts down from untreated AIDS.

The mind can conquer ALL things. Even death itself, given enough time and effort, will no longer be able to harvest from among the living those with disease, or those with severe but not immediately fatal injuries. We have made great strides in all of these fields, but if you abandon your mind, and cower in fear of the fruit of knowledge, even as it shields you from violent death, you'll never be able to reach the higher fruit. Even worse, should you attempt to pull others back, and infect them with your fear, you'll be worse than animals, you'll be monsters, the worse kind of parasites. Those who, in living off of the fruits of the minds of others, strike out against those same minds, and bind them until they can no longer produce fruit of any type. You will try to reduce those minds that you fear so into slaves to you own deadly ideology, and in so doing, poison the tree that gives you sustenance, changing its very nature, from knowledge into ignorance, from mind into instinct. In so doing, you select your own path into destruction.

This is not directed at you in particular, but to everyone on these forums, and indeed everyone who would read it. Don't abandon the mind. If you live in fear, don't try to reduce others to your level. It won't bring any more than a shallow comfort, the comfort of the starving man who knows that his neighbor also starves. Don't give in to that temptation. Be critical, yes. But don't close your mind to logic or reality. The fruit of the poisonous mind is also poison, you only need to learn the difference.
 
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