Is Ted Cruz undermining Rand Paul?

[libertygold]

Knowing history, I don't see how anyone could NOT support the opposition in this case. The USSR killed over 8 million people in the Ukraine.. hard to blame them for not wanting their government to be beholden to Russia.

With that said, I can support the opposition without supporting American intervention... Not convinced Ted feels the same way.

One can feel sympathetic for a movement while realizing it is still best for the US not to get involved.

 

[libertygold]

I say we just shut this thread down because in some regard this thread could've been made and continued to be brought to 10 pages by the opps (opposition).

Is there a way to make it so it doesn't come up on top?

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Is there a way to make it so it doesn't come up on top?

Stop posting on it?

 

[libertygold]

I say we just shut this thread down because in some regard this thread could've been made and continued to be brought to 10 pages by the opps (opposition).

I started the thread around when Cruz was doing his "filibuster" and I thought Cruz was trying to steal Rand's thunder and undermine him. Was curious if anyone else felt the same way. If that can be used by opposition then lets make it so it doesn't keep coming up on top. Not sure how it could be used by opposition though because if Cruz is indeed undermining Rand (intentionally or not) then it helps Rand more for us to know that early on so the resources of the liberty movement don't end up being split.

 

[RonPaulGeorge&Ringo]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2...and_the_nightmare_of_iranian_emp_attacks.html

http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/06/how-ted-cruz-is-trying-to-outmaneuver-rand-paul/

How Ted Cruz is trying to outmaneuver Rand Paul

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We saw a the first hint of this back in November, when the New York Times‘ Jonathan Martin reported that “when Mr. Cruz went to New York City to meet with donors this summer, he privately offered a different view of Mr. Paul: The Kentucky senator can never be elected president, he told them, because he can never fully detach himself from the strident libertarianism of his father, former Representative Ron Paul of Texas.”

In other words, Paul’s just a little too far out in right field.

The area where I think this is playing out in the most obvious form is foreign policy (as I noted today, issues like Russia’s invasion of Crimea create unique challenges for Paul to overcome. Conversely, this creates opportunities for other candidates like Cruz.)

Just today at Frank Gaffney’s shadow CPAC gathering, we witnessed this. As Dave Weigel reports, Cruz specifically compared his foreign policy to Rand Paul’s, demonstrating that he agrees with Paul on some things, but — surprise, surprise! — is a notch closer to the more mainstream GOP position:

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[dinosaur]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2...and_the_nightmare_of_iranian_emp_attacks.html

http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/06/how-ted-cruz-is-trying-to-outmaneuver-rand-paul/

How Ted Cruz is trying to outmaneuver Rand Paul

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We saw a the first hint of this back in November, when the New York Times‘ Jonathan Martin reported that “when Mr. Cruz went to New York City to meet with donors this summer, he privately offered a different view of Mr. Paul: The Kentucky senator can never be elected president, he told them, because he can never fully detach himself from the strident libertarianism of his father, former Representative Ron Paul of Texas.”

In other words, Paul’s just a little too far out in right field.

The area where I think this is playing out in the most obvious form is foreign policy (as I noted today, issues like Russia’s invasion of Crimea create unique challenges for Paul to overcome. Conversely, this creates opportunities for other candidates like Cruz.)

Just today at Frank Gaffney’s shadow CPAC gathering, we witnessed this. As Dave Weigel reports, Cruz specifically compared his foreign policy to Rand Paul’s, demonstrating that he agrees with Paul on some things, but — surprise, surprise! — is a notch closer to the more mainstream GOP position:

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Not good

 

[limequat]

There's your answer. Cruz is a snake and this thread is done.

 

[TheTyke]

I'm not saying I trust Cruz - I don't, his connections with Goldman-Sachs, the CFR and his dangerous foreign policy are very worrisome - But keep in mind that statement is from the media, with no actual quote or proof assigned. We've seen that hundreds of times, with the media misquoting, taking out of context, or flat out lying. Unfortunately, it's very hard to tell in this case - it could be true, or the media could've made it up to drive wedges between allies.

Caution is definitely the best bet, since the vast majority of politicians are disappointments. But fall for the media narrative, either.

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

because he can never fully detach himself from the strident libertarianism of his father, former Representative Ron Paul of Texas.”

In other words, Paul’s just a little too far out in right field.

Well, if anyone would know something about 'crazy fathers', it's Ted Cruz. How's that Castro Revolution working out?

 

[libertygold]

It should be clear now my concerns were well founded. Cruz is indeed trying to undermine Rand. It has been his point all along.