Is Ted Cruz undermining Rand Paul?

[serenityrick]

I really don't get the hate for Cruz here. I can understand the hesitation on foreign policy but the guy would be just as good as Rand on domestic policy in my opinion.

I'm still hoping he doesn't run because having more than one constitutional candidate would split the vote and I think someone awful like Bush or Huckabee will take the nomination. Best case scenario is Rand runs and Cruz and Mike Lee and other tea party candidates throw their support behind Rand 100%.

I've heard a lot from him in interviews and Cruz is genuine and loves this Country and the Constitution.. hearing him compared to Bush just makes me shake my head. Honestly we need more people like him, Lee and Rand in Congress in general. I don't see the point in tearing him down.

 

[cajuncocoa]

I really don't get the hate for Cruz here. I can understand the hesitation on foreign policy but the guy would be just as good as Rand on domestic policy in my opinion.

Foreign policy affects what happens here at home. If a candidate is an interventionist, I have no use for him/her.

 

[libertygold]

I really don't get the hate for Cruz here. I can understand the hesitation on foreign policy but the guy would be just as good as Rand on domestic policy in my opinion.

I'm still hoping he doesn't run because having more than one constitutional candidate would split the vote and I think someone awful like Bush or Huckabee will take the nomination. Best case scenario is Rand runs and Cruz and Mike Lee and other tea party candidates throw their support behind Rand 100%.

I've heard a lot from him in interviews and Cruz is genuine and loves this Country and the Constitution.. hearing him compared to Bush just makes me shake my head. Honestly we need more people like him, Lee and Rand in Congress in general. I don't see the point in tearing him down.

Not tearing him down. You made the point well in the 2nd paragraph about more than one Constitutional candidate splitting the vote and potentially giving the nomination to Bush.

 

[CPUd]

CNN:

 

[twomp]

I really don't get the hate for Cruz here. I can understand the hesitation on foreign policy but the guy would be just as good as Rand on domestic policy in my opinion.

I'm still hoping he doesn't run because having more than one constitutional candidate would split the vote and I think someone awful like Bush or Huckabee will take the nomination. Best case scenario is Rand runs and Cruz and Mike Lee and other tea party candidates throw their support behind Rand 100%.

I've heard a lot from him in interviews and Cruz is genuine and loves this Country and the Constitution.. hearing him compared to Bush just makes me shake my head. Honestly we need more people like him, Lee and Rand in Congress in general. I don't see the point in tearing him down.

How many "constitutionalists" call on the President to disregard the 10th amendment and arrest the smokers in Colorado who defied the federal government.

If all you care about is domestic issues, almost any Republican will tell you what you want to hear. Just know that for every war that our government engages in, they use that war as an excuse to choke out our civil liberties. It's for our safety after all.

 

[Jamesiv1]

it's a long time to 2016. I don't see anything wrong with Cruz and Rand both smacking Obama and pushing the liberty issues up until crunch time.

Did you see them side by side after the SOTU with Sean Hannity? (video around here somewhere)

Looks to me like they are buddies.

edit: here's the video

 

[Bergie Bergeron]

CNN:

I think that says it all.

 

[Natural Citizen]

CNN:

Well. I don't know. I'm pretty sure there will be a few more questons besides those here.


I mean, this is a big deal. We're electing the leader of the free world? You think some skit with Maddow and "plagiarism" and the rest of those nonsensical shenanigans are the model for this?

My advice is to pay better attention (at least as an activist who may be looking to build their demograph). We'll have one of the largest voter turnouts in history and I assure you that only a very small demographic in all of that will be thinking of this Mickey Mouse nonsense. Aside from the NSA stuff, nobody cares about the other junk. Just because some PAC or three letter propaganda machine on the boob tube says these are the issues doesn't necessarily make it so. These may be the issues as they would like them to be but there are much bigger fish to fry, to borrow a phrase.

 

[libertygold]

CNN:

There you have it. My point exactly. Cruz takes over different resources which previously would have gone to Rand except that Cruz is an interventionist and longtime Bush ally.

 

[serenityrick]

the MSM is REALLY trying to push that plagiarizing thing aren't they? I honestly have only heard MSNBC complaining about that (and I guess CNN now)... not only that, it wasn't even him who wrote whatever was plagiarized, right? wasn't it his speech writer or someone underneath him?

If only the media was this demanding of the current administration, Jesus.

Anyways.. you know Rand is a threat if they are already trying to tear him down.

 

[libertygold]

the MSM is REALLY trying to push that plagiarizing thing aren't they? I honestly have only heard MSNBC complaining about that (and I guess CNN now)... not only that, it wasn't even him who wrote whatever was plagiarized, right? wasn't it his speech writer or someone underneath him?

If only the media was this demanding of the current administration, Jesus.

Anyways.. you know Rand is a threat if they are already trying to tear him down.

The MSM was all over the plagiarizing story when it broke. Huffington Post had it as its front page for a while. The Democratic Party and Bush's will bring it back when Rand announces his candidacy.

 

[Crashland]

The MSM was all over the plagiarizing story when it broke. Huffington Post had it as its front page for a while. The Democratic Party and Bush's will bring it back when Rand announces his candidacy.

If you do a google search for "Rand Paul", the suggested searches that pop up are:
Rand Paul
Rand Paul 2016
Rand Paul plagiarism
Rand Paul racist

Can we, kind of like, do something about that?

 

[libertygold]

If you do a google search for "Rand Paul", the suggested searches that pop up are:
Rand Paul
Rand Paul 2016
Rand Paul plagiarism
Rand Paul racist

Can we, kind of like, do something about that?

Yikes. Looks like Maddow has been spending a lot of time on google.

 

[mosquitobite]

CNN:

Hmmm... which one does the media NOT want.

There you go.

Not one mention of Rand's drone filibuster that was an actual filibuster. But Cruz gets props for his fake one?

So the puppeteers have carved out their narrative to fool the masses.

Baaaaaah!

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

This is becoming The Undead Thread of Rand Paul Forum. Why does it keep getting bumped up when it's dead and buried?

 

[libertygold]

This is becoming The Undead Thread of Rand Paul Forum. Why does it keep getting bumped up when it's dead and buried?

Not intentional. Any comment automatically puts it up. Is there a way to prevent it from getting bumped up?

 

[Crashland]

Not intentional. Any comment automatically puts it up. Is there a way to prevent it from getting bumped up?

Yes, it wouldn't ever get bumped up anymore if we just pin it to the top.

 

[RonPaulGeorge&Ringo]

Is there a way to prevent it from getting bumped up?

Maybe you could convince Canada Ted to quit visiting early primary states?

 

[libertygold]

Maybe you could convince Canada Ted to quit visiting early primary states?

But surely he is only there to campaign for Rand Paul. Why else would he be there? If he were to campaign for himself he knows that would take away from Rand Paul and he wouldn't do that because Ted Cruz cares about liberty. And the fact that he has been very close to the Bush family is completely irrelevant. (sarcasm)

 

[Crashland]

It's conceivable that Cruz is laying the groundwork for a presidential run in order to position himself in case Rand does not run for whatever reason (family issues, health issues, whatever), or to position himself for being a potential VP pick. I'm not really going to be too critical of Cruz unless/until he actually declares he is running or unless/until he starts portraying Rand negatively.