Is Social Security Welfare?

[helmuth_hubener]

Kiddies just what gives you the idea that IF and thats a mighty big if SSI were to be cut off and the elderly left to perish that even one penny more would end up in your pockets, eh?

I just want more pennies to end up in your pockets, Master Truelies. Please: send me your address! I can't bear to see you like this -- deprived, neglected, suffering.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

"It’s in your selfish best interest to provide the maximum amount of value to the maximum number of people – that’s how Apple became the giant company it is. Conversely, it is not altruistic to help other people. I want all the people around me to be strong and successful. It makes life better and easier for me if they’re all doing well. So it’s selfish, not altruistic, when I help them.

"To weaken others, to degrade them by making them dependent upon generosity, is not doing those people any good. If you really care about others, the best thing you can do for them is to push for totally freeing all markets. That makes it both necessary and rewarding for them to learn valuable skills and to become creators of value and not burdens on society. It’s a win-win all around." -- Doug Casey

 

[erowe1]

"It’s in your selfish best interest to provide the maximum amount of value to the maximum number of people – that’s how Apple became the giant company it is. Conversely, it is not altruistic to help other people. I want all the people around me to be strong and successful. It makes life better and easier for me if they’re all doing well. So it’s selfish, not altruistic, when I help them.

"To weaken others, to degrade them by making them dependent upon generosity, is not doing those people any good. If you really care about others, the best thing you can do for them is to push for totally freeing all markets. That makes it both necessary and rewarding for them to learn valuable skills and to become creators of value and not burdens on society. It’s a win-win all around." -- Doug Casey

The level to which truelies has been degraded is one where, not only does he depend on others' generosity, he doesn't even consider it generosity. What's theirs is his.

 

[Lucille]

In short:

It has been ruled thus, and the fedgov can take the "benefit" away from anyone (or everyone) at anytime, and still collect the tax.

 

[klamath]

In short:

It has been ruled thus, and the fedgov can take the "benefit" away from anyone (or everyone) at anytime, and still collect the tax.[/QUOTE
As told to my father in the middle 1960's, when he told an IRS agent that he didn't want to belong to the SSI insurance program and didn't want to pay the payroll deductions. "Mr ----,it is a TAX, you know it is a TAX and you are damned well going to pay that TAX!"